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Old 07-28-2019, 02:23 AM   #61
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Check it out! Stopped by National Indoor RV Centers in Phoenix for service and they have a new batch of 2020 Arias. Decided to check them out while I was there. The new 2020 Thor Aria 3901 has the wireless Firefly Integrations panels like the earlier coaches...but they are LED back-lit panels!!

Contacting Firefly Integrations to see if they can be retrofitted into older coaches like my 2017!

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Old 08-02-2019, 12:50 AM   #62
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The backlit is nice. Someone at Thor must have finally heard everyone complaining. Too be honest though, I have put little foam stickies on the light switches so we never even look at the panels now to turn on a light. Just feel and press. The backlit panels wouldn't even make a difference. Still nice though.
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Old 08-07-2019, 11:34 PM   #63
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When I contacted then they said they can be retrofitted as long as you run a power wire for the back light.
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Old 08-08-2019, 12:25 AM   #64
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I posted about the backlit controls in another thread quite some time ago. I like the normal controls for a couple of reasons. 1) You can move them if you donít like the location. 2) Running an additional wire to each module just increases the cost. 3) DW doesnít like the glow from LED controls. 4) I would still want to put the bumps on because I couldnít read them without my glasses anyway. 5) We have gotten so used to the layout of each switch that just having the bump letís us pick the correct switch.
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Old 08-08-2019, 03:43 AM   #65
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When I contacted then they said they can be retrofitted as long as you run a power wire for the back light.
Hrrmmm...the ones I saw in the 2020 Aria 3901 appear to still be wireless with the CR lithium battery on the back and micro-LEDs for lighting. I didn't see any wires. I ordered three of them and they should arrive in the next day or so. Will post what I receive and how they work.
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Old 08-08-2019, 03:45 AM   #66
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I posted about the backlit controls in another thread quite some time ago. I like the normal controls for a couple of reasons. 1) You can move them if you donít like the location. 2) Running an additional wire to each module just increases the cost. 3) DW doesnít like the glow from LED controls. 4) I would still want to put the bumps on because I couldnít read them without my glasses anyway. 5) We have gotten so used to the layout of each switch that just having the bump letís us pick the correct switch.
I agree 100%. Unless I missed something about what I saw, these are still wireless (just with micro-LEDs embedded in the board for back-lighting). I should know in the next couple days when they arrive from Firefly...
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Old 08-08-2019, 04:05 AM   #67
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I agree 100%. Unless I missed something about what I saw, these are still wireless (just with micro-LEDs embedded in the board for back-lighting). I should know in the next couple days when they arrive from Firefly...
Please keep us posted. I have seen several types ones like posted above and others that are LCD. I sent the emails back in May prior to purchasing my coach Maybe something has changed.
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Old 08-08-2019, 03:24 PM   #68
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I contacted Firefly Integrations about switching to the backlit switches. They shared the cost would be one time $750 for setup (custom program, documentation) plus $165 per switch. They (Leon Bontrager) stated the one time fee could not be waived.
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Old 08-08-2019, 04:52 PM   #69
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I contacted Firefly Integrations about switching to the backlit switches. They shared the cost would be one time $750 for setup (custom program, documentation) plus $165 per switch. They (Leon Bontrager) stated the one time fee could not be waived.
I talked to Leon too. $135/switch. No programming. But...to be fair, they are being shipped and I haven't received them yet...so I will let you know how this goes. BTW: I am not sure why the local switch would require programming to allow back-lighting. It seems to be a local function on the switch plate itself. Also...I think these are very new btw. When did you get that answer from Leon?
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Old 08-08-2019, 05:47 PM   #70
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I received the email from Leon this morning. Look forward to hearing what you learn.
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I talked to Leon too. $135/switch. No programming. But...to be fair, they are being shipped and I haven't received them yet...so I will let you know how this goes. BTW: I am not sure why the local switch would require programming to allow back-lighting. It seems to be a local function on the switch plate itself. Also...I think these are very new btw. When did you get that answer from Leon?
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Old 08-08-2019, 07:09 PM   #71
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I am going back and forth with them right now as I am having some issues with my system. To be fair I thing the issues might have been caused by the selling dealer. So far they have been great to deal with. I also inquired again about backlit switches. I'm curious to hear what they say as it sounds like there are wireless and wired backlit switches.
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Old 08-13-2019, 12:22 AM   #72
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I'm still going back and forth with Firefly to sort out some issues I was having. They did confirm there is a new battery operated backlit switch now and my system can be retrofitted. The response I got back in May was that the backlit switches were wired so thing have changed I guess. I will say this, they have been great to deal with I'm really impressed with how quickly they respond. They have built a model of my coach to try to recreate the issues I am having.
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Old 08-13-2019, 02:35 AM   #73
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I too put one clear stick pad on an individual light switch per module. Easy to feel and turn on the one set of lights and then able to see the rest of the switches. I really like the master off/on switch at the entry door.
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Old 08-15-2019, 02:32 PM   #74
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I received the email from Leon this morning. Look forward to hearing what you learn.
I received the new wireless, back-lit switches (control pads) this week and installed them! The process was pretty simple and only took about 10 minutes. The switches ended up costing $135/ea. and required no programming adjustment on the Firefly system. They will snap into the original backing plates as well. Keep in mind that your 'mileage may vary' if your control panel doesn't allow for 'pairing', etc. based on your firmware version.

Click Here for New Switches Video

Side by side comparison of the new switches vs. old switches. Only noticable physical difference is that the old switches have a gloss bezel while the new switches are matte:



Process to 'pair' new switches on 4.3" B&W screen in 2017 Aria 3901:

Step 1: Prep the new switches by pulling the battery protector tab and making sure they light up when you press a button

Step 2: Go to 'settings' and select 'Switch Info' on the main control panel



Step 3: Hold down the switch you are replacing for 5+ seconds and release



Step 4: Select 'start pairing' (note: you have 30 seconds to complete the next task)



Step 5: Hold down any two buttons on the new switch until the main control panel acknowledges the pairing is successful (takes about 3 seconds)

That's it! This should be the result:

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Old 08-15-2019, 10:30 PM   #75
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Great news! Thank you for sharing the details!

My coach is at the factory service center at the moment so can't verify, but I don't believe I have access to the Settings you mention via the Firefly panel. Now wondering if that is why Leon quoted the one time $750 fee. Maybe someone else with a 2019 Aria can verify?
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Old 08-15-2019, 10:41 PM   #76
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Great news! Thank you for sharing the details!

My coach is at the factory service center at the moment so can't verify, but I don't believe I have access to the Settings you mention via the Firefly panel. Now wondering if that is why Leon quoted the one time $750 fee. Maybe someone else with a 2019 Aria can verify?
Related to settings via the Firefly panel, am interested in getting access to the Magnum Inverter/Charger settings. I heard rumors can get access through the Firefly panel versus needing to purchase/install the Mangum remote panel ME-ARC50. I upgraded my house batteries, and the manufacturer recommends different charger settings than the MS2812 default settings. If anyone knows how, please do share.
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