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Old 09-22-2019, 08:19 PM   #1
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ACE 29.2 waste water smell & bad jack

Hi All, So I am new to the forum and also new to the class A family, but have travel trailer experience. I just purchased my '15 ACE 29.2 and have immediately noticed a foul odor in the bathroom. (did notice once when we tried it, but not the second time or during the pre-purchase) The kitchen area is fine and has an AAV, however, I can't pin down the source of the smell in the bathroom. There is not an AAV for the bath sink and it drains to the black tank and vents directly to the only stack on the coach. There is a p-trap. The shower drains to the grey tank, and I can't tell if there is a trap, but I doubt it based on the space available. Has anyone seen/smelled this? Thoughts? Also found that the passenger rear jack does not fully extend and has quite a bit of old fluid on the top of the jack pad. It appears that it is leaking from the bottom of the jack based on the fluid around the bolts on the bottom. Again, anyone has any experience with this issue? I have 30 days to get any and all items addressed on the dealer's dollar and I would like any and all help. Thanks!
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Old 09-27-2019, 07:04 PM   #2
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I see no responses to you so far so welcome to the forum.

I don’t know your coach specifics, but I would double check for an AAV under your bathroom sink again. After the sink trap there should be a T with the AAV high up close to the counter top. Check that it is screwed on tight; they also fail and it may need replacement. Make sure all traps have water in them so tank gases don't come though that way.



Regarding the trap under the shower......there absolutely should be one even though the space seems tight. On some coaches the only access to the shower trap is an access panel over the rear wheels. If the trap is leaking enough water typically that water will drip out of the access panel onto the tires. Not sure if this applies to your coach though.


Regarding the jack fluid you need to determine if this is just a loose hydraulic hose connection on the jack or a leaking seal on the jack. I assume this is an OEM Lippert jack system and if so they do not offer rebuild kits like some competitive jack brands. So this means replacing the jack at considerable expense. I would also ensure that none of the jacks is leaking anywhere. Also have the hydraulic lines inspected completely for abrasion points on any chassis pass through etc. There have been many complaints about hoses leaking from hydraulic hose failures on this forum. Also make sure the jack system reservoir has appropriate fluid level and no obvious leaks in that basement cubby.



I would find out which “battery control system” you have in this coach. Find out if the coach and chassis batteries will charge properly (actually measure voltage levels on the battery strings under the various power source alternatives) from shore power, generator and when engine is running. Some battery don't provide two way charging.


There are many other things that should be checked too......look for buying used RV checklists on line or in this forum for more info. I hope you enjoy camping with your coach.
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Old 09-27-2019, 07:24 PM   #3
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Have you considered cutting down on the Burrito Breakfasts?

Seriously: Welcome to the Forum, and I hope that you find the cure for the gases...

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Old 09-28-2019, 02:16 AM   #4
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Labracing, Welcome to the forum! I have an older ACE, but my head is not filled with much info to assist you. I hope some "experienced" & "knowledgeable" owners can offer you some help. They have been very kind to me with some of the problems I have encountered. Congrats on your new rig!
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Old 09-29-2019, 11:35 AM   #5
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I see no responses to you so far so welcome to the forum.

I don’t know your coach specifics, but I would double check for an AAV under your bathroom sink again. After the sink trap there should be a T with the AAV high up close to the counter top. Check that it is screwed on tight; they also fail and it may need replacement. Make sure all traps have water in them so tank gases don't come though that way.



Regarding the trap under the shower......there absolutely should be one even though the space seems tight. On some coaches the only access to the shower trap is an access panel over the rear wheels. If the trap is leaking enough water typically that water will drip out of the access panel onto the tires. Not sure if this applies to your coach though.


Regarding the jack fluid you need to determine if this is just a loose hydraulic hose connection on the jack or a leaking seal on the jack. I assume this is an OEM Lippert jack system and if so they do not offer rebuild kits like some competitive jack brands. So this means replacing the jack at considerable expense. I would also ensure that none of the jacks is leaking anywhere. Also have the hydraulic lines inspected completely for abrasion points on any chassis pass through etc. There have been many complaints about hoses leaking from hydraulic hose failures on this forum. Also make sure the jack system reservoir has appropriate fluid level and no obvious leaks in that basement cubby.



I would find out which “battery control system” you have in this coach. Find out if the coach and chassis batteries will charge properly (actually measure voltage levels on the battery strings under the various power source alternatives) from shore power, generator and when engine is running. Some battery don't provide two way charging.


There are many other things that should be checked too......look for buying used RV checklists on line or in this forum for more info. I hope you enjoy camping with your coach.
Thanks Javelin for the response. After finding schematics of the plumbing system for similar model year on the general community search, I was able to locate the AAV lave hidden behind a false panel in the corner of the bathroom. You can actually touch with your fingers, but have to remove the panel to access it! Sure enough it was sitting on it's very last thread. I retightened and that seems to have cured the problem. I have replaced the panel using screws and replaced the staples that were use daily for easier access in the future. As for the jacks, there is a leak in the compartment and the dealer has located the issue with one of the solenoids, so it is being replaced now. Thanks again for the help and all of the info on theses forums! I'm learning something new everyday...
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Old 09-29-2019, 11:37 AM   #6
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Have you considered cutting down on the Burrito Breakfasts?

Seriously: Welcome to the Forum, and I hope that you find the cure for the gases...

http://www.thorforums.com/forums/att...1&d=1569612235
Thanks Bob, I will install a power vent before giving up my burrito breakfast bowl��! And thanks for the link...
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Old 09-29-2019, 11:40 AM   #7
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Labracing, Welcome to the forum! I have an older ACE, but my head is not filled with much info to assist you. I hope some "experienced" & "knowledgeable" owners can offer you some help. They have been very kind to me with some of the problems I have encountered. Congrats on your new rig!
Thanks Lal22, these forums have been great info for preparing for the purchase and what to expect, and general amusement!
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Old 09-29-2019, 04:09 PM   #8
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When I wrote my post there were no answers. Now I see that javelin and Bob's post came in ahead of mine. Javelin, that is a thorough response and very nice of you to post it. I didn't want you to think I was slamming your post.
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Old 09-29-2019, 04:36 PM   #9
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When I wrote my post there were no answers. Now I see that javelin and Bob's post came in ahead of mine. Javelin, that is a thorough response and very nice of you to post it. I didn't want you to think I was slamming your post.
Javelin did all of the "Heavy Lifting"...
I just tried to lighten things up a little bit...
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