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11-11-2019, 01:32 AM
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Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Hurricane 31D
State: Georgia
Posts: 77
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Electrical issue
On our recent trip we found our ac kitchen outlet wan’t working. We have two outlets on the breaker. The second outlet works fine. On further examination when I test black and ground I get 122 volt. Nothing when I test white and ground. At the breaker I get 122v. Checked and tightened the wires on the bar. What else could I be missing?
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11-11-2019, 02:30 AM
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Brand: Keystone
Model: Sprinter
State: Florida
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cruzin101
On our recent trip we found our ac kitchen outlet wan’t working. We have two outlets on the breaker. The second outlet works fine. On further examination when I test black and ground I get 122 volt. Nothing when I test white and ground. At the breaker I get 122v. Checked and tightened the wires on the bar. What else could I be missing?
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You are not understanding how electric works. White and ground will never have voltage. Black and white and black and ground have voltage.
I can not tell by your description of problems BUT The GFI in the bathroom outlet controls any outlet within 6 feet of a water supply you may have 3 or 4 more outlets not working. Reset the GFI outlet in the bath. Test and rest button.
Gfi controls kitchen, bath, outside
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11-11-2019, 03:00 AM
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Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Hurricane 31D
State: Georgia
Posts: 77
THOR #16633
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Electrical Problem
Quote:
Originally Posted by cavie
You are not understanding how electric works. White and ground will never have voltage. Black and white and black and ground have voltage.
I can not tell by your description of problems BUT The GFI in the bathroom outlet controls any outlet within 6 feet of a water supply you may have 3 or 4 more outlets not working. Reset the GFI outlet in the bath. Test and rest button.
Gfi controls kitchen, bath, outside
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Checked the gfi. doesn't seem to be a problem. tested and reset it. No changes. All outlets work fine except for the 1 kitchen dual outlet.
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11-11-2019, 03:30 AM
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Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Aria 3901
State: Idaho
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Check the outlet upstream from that one, the one that does work. The wires may not be connected that lead from there to the one that does not work.
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11-11-2019, 03:49 AM
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Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Thor Outlaw 38RE
State: West Virginia
Posts: 304
THOR #17154
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Did it ever work?
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11-11-2019, 03:59 AM
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Brand: Keystone
Model: Sprinter
State: Florida
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THOR #15553
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you will need someone with a volt meter and electric knowledge to diagnose this.
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11-26-2019, 01:00 AM
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Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Hurricane 31D
State: Georgia
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It has worked in the past.
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11-26-2019, 01:06 AM
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Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Hurricane 31D
State: Georgia
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THOR #16633
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Electrical problem
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Originally Posted by m1noel
Check the outlet upstream from that one, the one that does work. The wires may not be connected that lead from there to the one that does not work.
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Thanks! I will check the other outlets connected to the gfi and seek an electrician’s advice.
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11-26-2019, 01:09 AM
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Brand: Keystone
Model: Sprinter
State: Florida
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THOR #15553
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you must likely have a 2nd GFI outlet you haven found.
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11-26-2019, 01:56 AM
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Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Hurricane 31D
State: Georgia
Posts: 77
THOR #16633
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Electrical issue
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Originally Posted by cavie
you must likely have a 2nd GFI outlet you haven found.
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Thanks! I’ll be checking
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11-28-2019, 09:58 PM
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Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Hurricane 31D
State: Georgia
Posts: 77
THOR #16633
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Electrical problem
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Originally Posted by cavie
you must likely have a 2nd GFI outlet you haven found.
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I think this is my problem. Is this a gfi or standard duplex?(attached)
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11-28-2019, 09:59 PM
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Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Hurricane 31D
State: Georgia
Posts: 77
THOR #16633
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Happy Thanksgiving
Happy Thanksgiving to all!
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11-29-2019, 12:08 AM
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Senior Member
Brand: Keystone
Model: Sprinter
State: Florida
Posts: 1,422
THOR #15553
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cruzin101
I think this is my problem. Is this a gfi or standard duplex?(attached)
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That is a standard outlet. It is controlled by a GFI Receptical. Is there power here? If there is power in and out the bathroom and not here then you have another GFI outlet someplace.
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11-29-2019, 12:52 AM
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Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Hurricane 31D
State: Georgia
Posts: 77
THOR #16633
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cavie
That is a standard outlet. It is controlled by a GFI Receptical. Is there power here? If there is power in and out the bathroom and not here then you have another GFI outlet someplace.
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No power in this outlet but power in the bathroom and other outlets controlled by the bathroom gfi. The wires in this assembly are loose and it appears to be severely corroded. I’ll replace it for good measure. Is it possible the bad kitchen outlet is connected to this outlet?
I’m running out places to look for another gfi. I’ll check my storage compartments and maybe the generator area.
I appreciate your comments!
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11-29-2019, 02:36 AM
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Senior Member
Brand: Keystone
Model: Sprinter
State: Florida
Posts: 1,422
THOR #15553
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cruzin101
No power in this outlet but power in the bathroom and other outlets controlled by the bathroom gfi. The wires in this assembly are loose and it appears to be severely corroded. I’ll replace it for good measure. Is it possible the bad kitchen outlet is connected to this outlet?
I’m running out places to look for another gfi. I’ll check my storage compartments and maybe the generator area.
I appreciate your comments!
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Yes the kitchen outlet can be connected to this outlet. It does need replaced. You may just have only one GFI. Any outlet you find with 2 sets of wires must have power in and power
out.
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11-29-2019, 02:39 AM
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Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Hurricane 31D
State: Georgia
Posts: 77
THOR #16633
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cavie
Yes the kitchen outlet can be connected to this outlet. It does need replaced. You may just have only one GFI. Any outlet you find with 2 sets of wires must have power in and power
out.
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Thanks!
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11-29-2019, 03:03 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Forest River Forester 235
State: Indiana
Posts: 4,884
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My coach (SOB) has an outside GFCI. I don’t think it has any other downstream outlets but could be. I’d be surprised if your outside outlets are not protected. I’ve noticed that most RV outlets are not standard hard wired outlets like the one in your picture. They are a much cheaper design the just clips on the uncut wires. It does not look like a very reliable system to me. Or safe, but I suppose it must meet the electrical code.
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11-29-2019, 08:22 PM
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Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Hurricane 31D
State: Georgia
Posts: 77
THOR #16633
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Electrical Problem
Quote:
Originally Posted by cruzin101
Thanks!
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Swapped out the corroded outdoor outlet today. Everything works great now!
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11-29-2019, 09:16 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: Keystone
Model: Sprinter
State: Florida
Posts: 1,422
THOR #15553
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cruzin101
Swapped out the corroded outdoor outlet today. Everything works great now!
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Remove a 1/2" of the gasket on the bottom side to allow the water to drain out or it will happen again. Old electricians trick. A very thin bead of caulk along the top under the plate will help also.
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11-30-2019, 02:11 AM
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Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Hurricane 31D
State: Georgia
Posts: 77
THOR #16633
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cavie
Remove a 1/2" of the gasket on the bottom side to allow the water to drain out or it will happen again. Old electricians trick. A very thin bead of caulk along the top under the plate will help also.
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Thanks for the tip!
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