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07-13-2018, 02:09 PM
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Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Miramar
State: Tennessee
Posts: 31
THOR #12286
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Shower with 6 Gal Hot Water Heater
This morning I told my wife that she would have to learn how to shower in the new MH with only a 6 gallon hot water heater. Her response was "Sell it, Go Sell that thing right now".
I know that there are a lot of variables but generally on a normal warm temperature day, how long can one take a "hot" shower? What is the recovery time on the hot water heater with electric? ...with propane?
The RV is brand new so I am not going to swap to a tank less system any time soon.
Any advice will help me to be ready for when she takes her first RV shower.
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2018 Thor Miramar 34.2
Kar Kaddy SS
2017 Chev Bolt EV
MiramarTN
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07-13-2018, 02:37 PM
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Axis/Vegas Enthusiast
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Axis 24.4
State: Michigan
Posts: 9,837
THOR #1150
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LOL! To answer the "how long of a shower" you have to answer the question: Is she willing to take a Navy shower? (shut off the water while soaping up, etc.)
With a Navy shower our 6 gal heater works well for 3 consecutive showers in our Axis. Recovery on propane is faster than on electric only and recovery with both propane and electric turned on is even faster.
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07-13-2018, 02:38 PM
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Site Team
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: ACE 27.1
State: Florida
Posts: 14,116
THOR #7035
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On our ACE with a 6 gallon water heater and Oxygenics shower head you can take a normal shower with both the electric and gas heating turned on. If you do manage to get it to turn cold it's only about a 15 minute recovery time.
Sounds like you wife is just looking for an excuse for you to get rid of the MH.
Even when boondocking and conserving fresh water and grey tank capacity by using the water shutoff valve between soaping and rinsing we have done 4 people in a row through our shower.
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Ted & Melinda
2016 ACE 27.1
2016 Chevy Sonic Toad - Selling
2020 Chevy Colorado Z71 Trail Runner Toad
2024 Chevrolet Trax 2RS - Soon 2B TOAD
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07-13-2018, 02:41 PM
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Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Challenger 37LX
State: Arizona
Posts: 30
THOR #6100
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We have been able to take two consecutive showers without losing hot water. We purchased the oxygenics shower head, which has helped because it reduces the time for my wife to wash/rinse her hair.
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07-13-2018, 03:07 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Hurricane 31S
State: Texas
Posts: 4,157
THOR #6411
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The unknown factors are how warm is the cold water coming into the water heater, how hot to you want the shower water and how long do you shower. I find than my wife likes a 110 degree shower, but I like a 100 degree one. With water coming-in at 70 degrees, that means about 8 gallons for her and 12 for me with no recovery. If you turn the water off while soaping up, men generally use 5 gallons and women use about 8 gallons. The Atwood water heater has two methods to heat the water: propane and electric. The recovery rate for propane is 11.6 gal/hr and on electric 6.2 gal/hr. They can be combined for a 17.8 gal/hr rate. That means if you fill the water completely with 70 degree water it will be 130 F (the eco setting on the water heat) in about 20 minutes. So to answer you question, I find that with both heat sources on and the water heater completely full of hot water, we can both shower without running out of hot water in the summer. In the winter, it is different as the water coming into the coach is usually around 50 degrees and both of like the water about 5 degrees hotter. We need to wait about 20 minutes between showering to be safe.
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2016 Hurricane 31S
1961 Rampside in tow
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07-13-2018, 03:11 PM
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I Think We're Lost!
Brand: Still Looking
Model: Tiffin Wayfarer 24 BW
State: New York
Posts: 22,195
THOR #8860
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If you swap out your current system for a tankless instant one: she can spend the entire weekend in the shower!
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Good Sam Member 843599689
Current coach: Tiffin Wayfarer 24 BW
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07-16-2018, 12:07 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Miramar 34.4
State: Virginia
Posts: 132
THOR #5560
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Spent 20+ years in the Navy, both the wife and I take the Navy Submarine shower. Turn water on, get wet, turn water off, soap up, turn water on, rinse, repeat once if necessary.
The size of the shower does not really work for soaping up while the water is running anyway.
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07-16-2018, 12:17 PM
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I Think We're Lost!
Brand: Still Looking
Model: Tiffin Wayfarer 24 BW
State: New York
Posts: 22,195
THOR #8860
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I agree.
Do you think that the shower enclosures were made that small to intentionally try to make us minimize water use?
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Good Sam Member 843599689
Current coach: Tiffin Wayfarer 24 BW
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07-16-2018, 12:33 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: THOR Chateua 35SF
State: Florida
Posts: 5,850
THOR #11130
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Get her a box of baby wipes and tell her she has three options, with the 3rd one staying at home!!
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Traded Thor for Melbourne Prestige 24NP
2018 THOR Chateau 35SF
Two Labs, Bugsie & Blondie
Blondie passed in 2020 at 5 to Leukemia
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07-16-2018, 12:41 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Miramar 34.4
State: Virginia
Posts: 132
THOR #5560
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Dang Grtiz, being a bit tough on the DW. I guess you do live by the rule: Happy wife, Happy life!
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07-16-2018, 12:47 PM
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I Think We're Lost!
Brand: Still Looking
Model: Tiffin Wayfarer 24 BW
State: New York
Posts: 22,195
THOR #8860
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At least the "Baby-Wipe" approach, can be a shared experience!
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"What: me worry?"
Good Sam Member 843599689
Current coach: Tiffin Wayfarer 24 BW
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07-16-2018, 12:49 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: THOR Chateua 35SF
State: Florida
Posts: 5,850
THOR #11130
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Just haven't eaten yet...I'll soften up here in a bit and we'll work something out for her. My wife takes a 40 gallon shower each morning at home...I confirmed this with the meter recently. Knowing the limitations of the RV shower...and having owned several RV's in our life together...she does really well with the 6 gallon tank. Turn both gas and electric on while she showers...nearly makes it on demand.
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Now an SOB
Traded Thor for Melbourne Prestige 24NP
2018 THOR Chateau 35SF
Two Labs, Bugsie & Blondie
Blondie passed in 2020 at 5 to Leukemia
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07-16-2018, 01:01 PM
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I Think We're Lost!
Brand: Still Looking
Model: Tiffin Wayfarer 24 BW
State: New York
Posts: 22,195
THOR #8860
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40 gallons? There's an easy solution: Just make friends with six nearby campers, and her run from camp to camp... to camp to camp to camp to camp to camp!
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"What: me worry?"
Good Sam Member 843599689
Current coach: Tiffin Wayfarer 24 BW
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07-16-2018, 01:26 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: THOR Chateua 35SF
State: Florida
Posts: 5,850
THOR #11130
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She might just keep on going...not a good idea!! Miramar...I ate a Snicker Bar...feeling better now!
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Now an SOB
Traded Thor for Melbourne Prestige 24NP
2018 THOR Chateau 35SF
Two Labs, Bugsie & Blondie
Blondie passed in 2020 at 5 to Leukemia
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07-16-2018, 01:28 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
State: Michigan
Posts: 116
THOR #12333
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Tell her if you would have waited one more model year you would have a tankless. Your model now has that.
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07-16-2018, 01:39 PM
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I Think We're Lost!
Brand: Still Looking
Model: Tiffin Wayfarer 24 BW
State: New York
Posts: 22,195
THOR #8860
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Quote:
Originally Posted by The Gritz Carlton
She might just keep on going...not a good idea!! Miramar...I ate a Snicker Bar...feeling better now!
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You should have asked me: I keep a refrigerator full of these for the Missus...
http://www.thorforums.com/forums/att...1&d=1531748385
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"What: me worry?"
Good Sam Member 843599689
Current coach: Tiffin Wayfarer 24 BW
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07-16-2018, 04:51 PM
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Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: thor 22FE
State: Georgia
Posts: 80
THOR #3371
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When you hear that scream from the bathroom because to DW ran out of hot water, just look at you wallet and whimper...you are going to part with some money. OR you rely on Good Sams reviews and only stay at campgrounds that have a 10 rating on the bathrooms. i would just go ahead and start looking at tankless. wont take very long before your homework will pay off.
patrick
P.S. don't ask me how i know.
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07-16-2018, 05:00 PM
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I Think We're Lost!
Brand: Still Looking
Model: Tiffin Wayfarer 24 BW
State: New York
Posts: 22,195
THOR #8860
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I agree... If the, "Queen of Your Universe" ain't happy:
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"What: me worry?"
Good Sam Member 843599689
Current coach: Tiffin Wayfarer 24 BW
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07-16-2018, 05:02 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: THOR Chateua 35SF
State: Florida
Posts: 5,850
THOR #11130
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It would be nice to have both gas and tankless with "y" valves. Tankless uses a lot of water where, when dry camping, the gas/short shower is a must. May be something to look into...a portable (meaning stored away with quick disconnects), tankless water heater.
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Now an SOB
Traded Thor for Melbourne Prestige 24NP
2018 THOR Chateau 35SF
Two Labs, Bugsie & Blondie
Blondie passed in 2020 at 5 to Leukemia
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07-16-2018, 05:16 PM
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I Think We're Lost!
Brand: Still Looking
Model: Tiffin Wayfarer 24 BW
State: New York
Posts: 22,195
THOR #8860
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I was reading an article about the tankless systems... (It turned out to be a "tankless" job! )
Both systems seem to generally use the same amount of space. But I've never heard of anyone wanting to simply add one or the other of them.
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"What: me worry?"
Good Sam Member 843599689
Current coach: Tiffin Wayfarer 24 BW
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