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Old 01-19-2019, 03:33 PM   #1
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Wheels off ground when leveling?

I recently had the Big Foot Platnium system installed on my Axis. Iíve not actually encounted this problem myself (yet) but what if your wheels are completely off the ground when the MH is leveled? My thoughts are this should be avoided but Iíve been in CG that were so unlevel that I had to use 2 complete sets of Lynx levelers to achieve a reasonable state if level. Iíve seen other MH with their wheels way off the ground in some instances and wondered if that was safe and if it had a negative affect on the hydralic levelers.
Thoughts and opionions please.
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Old 01-19-2019, 03:40 PM   #2
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I wouldn't have them off the ground for a couple reason. One if something happens how far are you going to fall? what damage to the coach suspension etc.
Two If you are talking back wheel then you don't have your emergency brake working since it depends on the tire being on a solid surface.
Three makes it real easy for someone to help themselves to your tires the hard part is done it's off the ground
four I'm sure some one will chime i here.

These chassis only have a limited travel up and own and having the axle hanging just seems wrong. If it's hanging 6 inches off the ground picture hitting a hole in the road 6 inches deep.
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Old 01-19-2019, 03:45 PM   #3
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I try not to but I'm not real concerned if one or two front wheels are off the ground by a inch or so.
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Old 01-19-2019, 03:50 PM   #4
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So to keep this from happening should I put Lynx blocks under the hyralic foot to keep it from having to raise the MH up so much or underneath the tire then lower the MH until the weight rest on the tires?
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Old 01-19-2019, 03:59 PM   #5
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So to keep this from happening should I put Lynx blocks under the hyralic foot to keep it from having to raise the MH up so much
Wouldn't make any difference


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or underneath the tire then lower the MH until the weight rest on the tires?
I would much rather trust the weight of the MH on the hydraulic jack then on the tire on top of a bunch of Lynx levelers.


I used Lynx levelers all the time on my travel trailers, never used them on my MH.
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Old 01-19-2019, 04:09 PM   #6
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I used the Lynx blocks all the time before I had the hydralic system installed. I like the way the wheel chocks could be used to prevent the MH from rolling off the blocks. But the tedium of trying to level my Axis using those things is why I invested the the automatic system.
Curious to know why you would use them for a travel trailer but not a MH?
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Old 01-19-2019, 04:19 PM   #7
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If the situation dictates, I use both. I feel more secure if tires on not suspended. JMHO
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Old 01-19-2019, 04:57 PM   #8
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technically, once you're levelers are deployed, and have taken the weight off your wheels, then your wheels are already no longer supporting your coach - only the levelers

while it may 'look' uncomfortable to see others with wheels off the ground, it makes no difference
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Old 01-19-2019, 05:26 PM   #9
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I also have the Big Foot Platium on my Axis. I try to level the coach and not worry about the front tires being off the ground. You dont want the rear tires off the groud at all.

I find I have to put my level blocks under the front jacks sometimes get the height needed to be level (esp on my driveway)

BUT I use the oversized Campco dully blocks for added stability. I also have the flat insert that I add to the top so the big foot pad has a smooth surface to lay on. Plus I will sometime lay a small anti skid pad between them.

What are the chances of someone stealing the front tires? If your conserned get some locking lug nuts to make it harder.

I thought about driving up on some block then leveling ..... that way the tires are NOT off the ground. I think it all depends on how long you will be one spot. Most of the time im only jacked up for a day or two at a time so I dont worry about it.
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Old 01-19-2019, 05:56 PM   #10
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I've had my right front wheel up enough, that it could ber spun freely..
no big deal!

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Old 01-19-2019, 06:26 PM   #11
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I donít get too fuzzed if one or both front wheels are off the ground but itís it really a good idea. The jacks are not really designed for any lateral loads and the tires on the ground will prevent that - although honestly the risk of significant lateral load is small.
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Old 01-19-2019, 06:51 PM   #12
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I guess that if you've got a wheel or two that is barely off the ground: you could try slightly lowering the other end of your rig, and see if by doing that; you can get all four of them down, by manually leveling it...
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Old 01-19-2019, 10:13 PM   #13
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Curious to know why you would use them for a travel trailer but not a MH?
A travel trailer has no way to level side-to-side except to drive the wheels up on leveler blocks on the low side, either homemade or store bought.

A MH has these big hydraulic cylinders that allow you to lift the low sides to level it.

The scissor jacks you may see on travel trailers are not levelers, they are stabilizers. They are not to be used to support or lift the weight of the trailer,
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Old 01-19-2019, 11:21 PM   #14
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Stabilizers on keep the house from rockin' You still need to get it sitting reasonably level, by using blocks...
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Old 01-21-2019, 08:26 PM   #15
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I just had to replace an air spring that had pulled apart(top plate pulling off the rubber "air spring area" away from the bottom plate, not ripped or cut, just pulled apart. My question is, could the levelers extended too far cause this to happen on my Class A DP? The MH is a 2015.
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I just had to replace an air spring that had pulled apart(top plate pulling off the rubber "air spring area" away from the bottom plate, not ripped or cut, just pulled apart. My question is, could the levelers extended too far cause this to happen on my Class A DP? The MH is a 2015.
Well mine is rear leave spring and front coil spring. Pretty hard to mess those up.

I would think since your DP came with hydro levelers from the factory this would have been in the design of the boot/suspension.

Its seems like when I watch my Velocity/Motor trend TV that some of the aftermarket air rides (they install on trucks and cars) will rest on a plate?? So when they are jacked up they will have an inch or so space between this plate? Not sure on this one.
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