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Old 06-10-2017, 11:31 AM   #1
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WiFi Ranger -- where is installed

We are going to have the WiFi Ranger, EliteAC Pack FM, installed in our coach in September by RV's FOR LESS.

For those with factory installed units where do they install the unit inside? My guess is in the cabinet where the factory satellite connection is.

Your help would be appreciated.

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Old 06-10-2017, 01:48 PM   #2
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When the factory installed our Ranger it consisted of the outside Sky2 unit on the roof and and on/off switch located in the monitor panel cabinet.
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When the factory installed our Ranger it consisted of the outside Sky2 unit on the roof and and on/off switch located in the monitor panel cabinet.
Mine is installed the same way. You also may want to think about getting a Mobley hot spot instead of the ranger or get both. You can get unlimited data for only $20 a month. I have had mine for about a month now, and it works great.
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Old 06-10-2017, 10:21 PM   #4
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I’ve been wondering this same thing. We also have a factory install.
Like you we have the Sky2 on the roof and the switch in the cabinet. But it would seem there should be something else? At least one more component.
The Sky2 on the roof I believe has only a Cat-5 interface, that is run down into the electrical chase. The power for it whether a A/C power brick, or a 12V pigtail lead should be interfaced to Cat-5 by means of perhaps the “mini” port. This interface device should have two RJ-45 ports one for the Sky2 cable and a power input @12V. The other RJ-45 could be used for a LAN or something else, a MiFi adapter possibly?
Like you I have no idea if or where this other connection is made as the wire chase seems un-accessible, frustrating at best. Wondering if anyone has gained insight as to what DRV did in there. I wish I had a endoscope to see in there somehow, lol.
Inquiring minds want to know.. Any thoughts?
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Old 06-10-2017, 10:34 PM   #5
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I’ve been wondering this same thing. We also have a factory install.
Like you we have the Sky2 on the roof and the switch in the cabinet. But it would seem there should be something else? At least one more component.
The Sky2 on the roof I believe has only a Cat-5 interface, that is run down into the electrical chase. The power for it whether a A/C power brick, or a 12V pigtail lead should be interfaced to Cat-5 by means of perhaps the “mini” port. This interface device should have two RJ-45 ports one for the Sky2 cable and a power input @12V. The other RJ-45 could be used for a LAN or something else, a MiFi adapter possibly?
Like you I have no idea if or where this other connection is made as the wire chase seems un-accessible, frustrating at best. Wondering if anyone has gained insight as to what DRV did in there. I wish I had a endoscope to see in there somehow, lol.
Inquiring minds want to know.. Any thoughts?
I thought the same thing. That way I could hard wire something or even put a router in the rig also.
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Old 06-10-2017, 10:42 PM   #6
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I wanted to do the same thing. I emailed DRV and was told that there weren't any other components.....just the SKY2 on the roof and the on/off switch. I really wanted to be able to get a hard-wired connection from a hot spot
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Old 06-10-2017, 11:06 PM   #7
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Yeah, I pretty much got the same blank stare from DRV too.

I'd at least like to see the "Rube Goldberg" pin-out they did transitioning from Cat-5 to a 12V pigtail & friction tape? Could they have skimped out any worse for what they charge for the WFR option? I would have kind of expected this, (photo).
I've not ruled out a modification, If I could find/access the splice point.

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If you figure it out I'm sure there are a number of us that would be interested in your findings....
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Old 06-10-2017, 11:24 PM   #9
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Mine is installed the same way. You also may want to think about getting a Mobley hot spot instead of the ranger or get both. You can get unlimited data for only $20 a month. I have had mine for about a month now, and it works great.
PM me if you have any questions about the Mobley.

We've actually have been using the unlimited OnStar* (ATT) for $20 mo. from the trucks Intellilink head unit access point where there's service. It picks up fine in the coach. There is just the matter of extended use with the ignition on acc. position draining the batteries. Don't ask how I know that,
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Old 06-11-2017, 12:20 AM   #10
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We've actually have been using the unlimited OnStar* (ATT) for $20 mo. from the trucks Intellilink head unit access point where there's service. It picks up fine in the coach. There is just the matter of extended use with the ignition on acc. position draining the batteries. Don't ask how I know that,
That is why I bought a connector that enables it to plug into a 110 outlet. As I have the timer turned off, so it does not shut down every couple of hours.

AC Adapter for AT&T ZTE Mobley OBD 2 LTE Wi-Fi Hotspot Device | eBay

I like this one as he stated that the power source comes from a surveillance kit. not just a cheap Taiwan one.
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Old 06-11-2017, 01:19 AM   #11
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We are going to have the WiFi Ranger, EliteAC Pack FM, installed in our coach in September by RV's FOR LESS.

For those with factory installed units where do they install the unit inside? My guess is in the cabinet where the factory satellite connection is.

Your help would be appreciated.

Thanks.

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OP, basically the Sky2 is on the roof approx. 18" to the DS of the bedroom A/C. Then there is a rocker switch in the control cabinet lower area next to the awning light switch. The rest is a mystery.
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Old 06-12-2017, 12:26 PM   #12
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No idea how DRV set it up - but the SKY2 is absolutely designed to feed a router... The 'normal' SKY2PACK package comes with a core router that provides the 12v to the Sky2 (PPPoE - 12v power and data over the single CAT5 cable to the roof), and provides lan ports for wired connections as well as a wireless network...
https://www.wifiranger.com/shop/product/64-sky2-pack
Sounds like DRV saved some $$ and eliminated some components.

I would expect that 'extra' CAT5 connection could be connected to a normal router to establish a network... It likely passes through the data (only) signal coming from the SKY2.

I have an older Picostation that works the same way.
Not going to hurt anything to try it. May need to fiddle with router settings to get it to connect properly.
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Old 06-13-2017, 04:48 AM   #13
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The Sky2 on the roof shows to only have a Cat-5 interface, and is 24V. That Cat-5 is run down into the electrical chase presumably. The power for it whether an 120VAC power brick to 24V mini jack, or a 12V pigtail lead using a transformer to 24V mini jack. There needs to be an interfaced to Cat-5 by means of perhaps the Mini or a Core port module which is what powers the Sky2. Why would it be buried / hidden? Grrr
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WiFi Ranger EliteAC Pack FM

This is what is included in our WiFi Ranger EliteAC Pack FM. Not quite sure how DRV is doing there install.


Package Contents
WiFiRanger EliteAC FM
30FT Ethernet Cable
Installation Kit
WiFiRanger GoAC Router
110VAC Power Adapter & 12V Wire Harness
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Old 09-10-2017, 08:15 PM   #15
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Ok, has anyone been able to use their factory installed wifi ranger? Does it really improve your signal? I can hook up to it and see other rv sites available but can't seem to get them to hook up to the ranger.
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Ok, has anyone been able to use their factory installed wifi ranger? Does it really improve your signal? I can hook up to it and see other rv sites available but can't seem to get them to hook up to the ranger.
Yes, it does make weaker signals stronger and it shows more options on what networks it sees. You will need to find open networks or know the PW on locked networks. I have not used mine for a while because we now use our Mobley. In using the Mobley we also have a secure network.
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Ok, has anyone been able to use their factory installed wifi ranger? Does it really improve your signal? I can hook up to it and see other rv sites available but can't seem to get them to hook up to the ranger.
Yes we've been able to use ours as a basic router in the coach. It sees the signal and we're able to connect. Most of the time we use our hot spot in the coach to connect to the Ranger, then everything is connected to the router.
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Still no luck. I can get our iPads to hook up to the ranger. I can open the mywifiranger.com . The ranger sees the rv park wifi but it does not seem to connect. When I get home I will have my 11 year old grandson give me a hand. Thanks Bill
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Still no luck. I can get our iPads to hook up to the ranger. I can open the mywifiranger.com . The ranger sees the rv park wifi but it does not seem to connect. When I get home I will have my 11 year old grandson give me a hand. Thanks Bill
Some signals are "filtered". Which means once you show on you then have to log on. Did you select to join that network on your wifi Ranger controll panel? If you want, post up some screen shots of what you are seeing.
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This is what is included in our WiFi Ranger EliteAC Pack FM. Not quite sure how DRV is doing there install.


Package Contents
WiFiRanger EliteAC FM
30FT Ethernet Cable
Installation Kit
WiFiRanger GoAC Router
110VAC Power Adapter & 12V Wire Harness
Quick Start Guidance
3-year warranty

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How is your kit working out for you?

I purchased and installed that kit 2 seasons ago - nothing but aggravation.
When it does work it is just OK. But I spend more time trying to get connected then it is worth.
And there is no upgrade path to the newest versions, just full price.

Seamless integration between the indoor and outdoor routers an dCG WiFI and my verizon AC791L is just about non existent.

Im not a net guru but dome of my acquaintances are and have the same oipinon of the wifi ranger stuff.
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