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08-30-2018, 01:52 PM
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Site Team
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Axis 24.1 Windjammer
State: Illinois
Posts: 1,179
THOR #7074
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Thor bids for Hymer?
I might have a trade option down the road.
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Rev. Jeffrey 2017 Thor Axis 24.1 E450 Windjammer.
Silver Safe-T-Plus Steering Control
SSF-106-40 SumoSprings Solo Front Bump Stop SSR-107-47 SumoSprings Rear Bump Stop
Hellwig 7718 Front Sway Bar & 7180 Rear Sway Bar
Koni FSD Front Shocks 8805-1042 / Koni FSD Rear Shocks 8805-1043
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08-30-2018, 02:08 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: Still Looking
State: Texas
Posts: 6,187
THOR #2121
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Yeah, I saw that in the news a few days ago.
If it works out, I’m not sure what to expect. Will Thor quality improve? Will they import Euro RV designs? Or will Thor change Hymer to be similar to their other brands? Not that all Thor brands are similar — there’s a lot of difference between an Axis and Airstream trailer.
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08-30-2018, 04:23 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: 2017 Axis 25.4
State: Arkansas
Posts: 2,669
THOR #12231
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I for one would love to see some Hymer products over here (other than the little B / B+ class they sell currently). I think they would sell well.
But from what I have seen many of them seem underpowered for what we are use to (or demand) in the US market. Swap in some more HP and TQ, make them all left hand drive and we are good to go IMO.
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2017 Axis / 25.4: Big Foot Levelers, Aims 1200 Watt inverter, Ceramic Window Tint, Full River AGM 6V batteries, Front Hellwig Sway bar / Rear Track Arm, Safe T Plus Steering Stabilizer, PD 4655 converter, Hard Wired Surge Guard, WEboost + WiFi Ranger, LED Headlights/Driving lights, TPMS, Surge tank, Tornado flush, Viair Compressor
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08-30-2018, 04:40 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: Still Looking
State: Texas
Posts: 6,187
THOR #2121
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Does Hymer currently sell B+ in North America? If so, I haven't seen yet.
I know they have significant Class B market share between Hymer and Roadtrek brands.
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08-30-2018, 04:51 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: 2017 Axis 25.4
State: Arkansas
Posts: 2,669
THOR #12231
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I know they sell B's but I thought they had a B+ in my latest Motorhome magazine (Advertisement).
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2017 Axis / 25.4: Big Foot Levelers, Aims 1200 Watt inverter, Ceramic Window Tint, Full River AGM 6V batteries, Front Hellwig Sway bar / Rear Track Arm, Safe T Plus Steering Stabilizer, PD 4655 converter, Hard Wired Surge Guard, WEboost + WiFi Ranger, LED Headlights/Driving lights, TPMS, Surge tank, Tornado flush, Viair Compressor
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08-30-2018, 05:53 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: THOR Chateua 35SF
State: Florida
Posts: 5,850
THOR #11130
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They may not even bring the product here...just expand it in it's own market.
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Traded Thor for Melbourne Prestige 24NP
2018 THOR Chateau 35SF
Two Labs, Bugsie & Blondie
Blondie passed in 2020 at 5 to Leukemia
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08-30-2018, 05:55 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: 2017 Axis 25.4
State: Arkansas
Posts: 2,669
THOR #12231
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Yep, this is true.
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2017 Axis / 25.4: Big Foot Levelers, Aims 1200 Watt inverter, Ceramic Window Tint, Full River AGM 6V batteries, Front Hellwig Sway bar / Rear Track Arm, Safe T Plus Steering Stabilizer, PD 4655 converter, Hard Wired Surge Guard, WEboost + WiFi Ranger, LED Headlights/Driving lights, TPMS, Surge tank, Tornado flush, Viair Compressor
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08-30-2018, 07:23 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Hurricane 27K
State: California
Posts: 623
THOR #2544
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Thor could ruin them as they have the US Brands purchased. Companies that grow by acquisition seem to be good at sacrificing quality for increased sales and the resulting stock price and officer bonuses.
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2015 Hurricane 27K
2013 Sea Ray 220SD
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08-30-2018, 10:32 PM
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Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Quantum KM24
State: Georgia
Posts: 33
THOR #8438
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Chance
Does Hymer currently sell B+ in North America? If so, I haven't seen yet.
I know they have significant Class B market share between Hymer and Roadtrek brands.
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I believe Hymer now own Roadtrek.
Wendel
Evans, Ga.
2018 KM24
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08-30-2018, 10:37 PM
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Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Quantum KM24
State: Georgia
Posts: 33
THOR #8438
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Oops, I should have read your response closer.
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09-01-2018, 02:28 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: Still Looking
State: Texas
Posts: 6,187
THOR #2121
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Just saw where Thor’s Airstream has introduced a smaller 19-foot Class B based on Mercedes Sprinter 1/2 ton van with single rear wheels. Most other previous models where 24-foot 1-ton Sprinters with DRW.
The price of this new 19-footer starts at $149k, which obviously seems marketed at luxury car owners and not true campers. Recall reading most Airstream Class B owners never sleep in them.
This may explain why Winnebago and Hymer each have a much larger Class B market share. Thor doesn’t really have a competitive van for camping. Maybe if they buy Hymer, they’ll have a greater presence in this growing segment.
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09-01-2018, 06:37 PM
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I Think We're Lost!
Brand: Still Looking
Model: Tiffin Wayfarer 24 BW
State: New York
Posts: 22,195
THOR #8860
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If TMC keeps acquiring other brands, do you think that some Judge will want to bust Them up?
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Good Sam Member 843599689
Current coach: Tiffin Wayfarer 24 BW
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09-01-2018, 07:37 PM
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Axis/Vegas Enthusiast
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Axis 24.4
State: Michigan
Posts: 9,837
THOR #1150
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob Denman
If TMC keeps acquiring other brands, do you think that some Judge will want to bust Them up?
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Not with the current administration (besides Forest River is almost as big or at least big enough to be considered "competition" unless, of course, Thor buys Forest River LOL).
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09-14-2018, 11:37 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: Still Looking
State: Texas
Posts: 6,187
THOR #2121
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09-15-2018, 01:12 AM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: 22E
State: New York
Posts: 322
THOR #12119
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Forest River
Quote:
Originally Posted by JamieGeek
Not with the current administration (besides Forest River is almost as big or at least big enough to be considered "competition" unless, of course, Thor buys Forest River LOL).
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I don't think Warren Buffett would ever let Forest river go!
There would be a better chance that Thor would get bought out by Forest River.
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09-16-2018, 12:43 PM
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Junior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Axis
State: New Jersey
Posts: 21
THOR #3088
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There goes the German quality down the drain. Everything Thor touches turns to garbage
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09-16-2018, 01:45 PM
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I Think We're Lost!
Brand: Still Looking
Model: Tiffin Wayfarer 24 BW
State: New York
Posts: 22,195
THOR #8860
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Quote:
Originally Posted by andy
There goes the German quality down the drain. Everything Thor touches turns to garbage
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That we keep buying...
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Good Sam Member 843599689
Current coach: Tiffin Wayfarer 24 BW
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09-18-2018, 12:26 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: Still Looking
State: Texas
Posts: 6,187
THOR #2121
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It’s official, pending approval.
Thor Industries To Acquire Erwin Hymer Group | RV Business
Who would have expected this a year ago? Thor will now own RoadTrek and Hymer Class Bs in North America, matching or exceeding Winnebago in size in the one area they trailed. This should make Thor the largest in Class A, B, and C in North America.
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09-18-2018, 12:51 PM
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I Think We're Lost!
Brand: Still Looking
Model: Tiffin Wayfarer 24 BW
State: New York
Posts: 22,195
THOR #8860
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Good for them!
Which of the other manufacturers is next?
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Good Sam Member 843599689
Current coach: Tiffin Wayfarer 24 BW
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09-19-2018, 12:09 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: Still Looking
State: Texas
Posts: 6,187
THOR #2121
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Some additional information on acquisition is interesting. Surprising to me that Thor has much greater towable business than they do in motorhomes, while EHG relies more on motorized.
Acquisition of Jayco Aids Thor in Hymer Buyout | RV Business
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Originally Posted by from article
Thor said the combined company would enhance its end market product mix. While 71% of Thor’s business currently comes from towables and 27% from motorized units, EHG’s business is 77% motorized and 13% towables. The combined company’s product mix would by 57% towables and 40% Motorized.
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