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Old 04-21-2019, 01:00 PM   #1
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Freedom elite use/store disconnect

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In my 2017 Thor freedom 30fe, the use/switch button is not bringing my house battery on. So no power at all. When check battery status panel on wall, everything dead. I cut gene on, every thing works, I plugged in my house outlet using adapter, everything works like lights, tv axera radio. I can hear the sound when I press use/store button. But seems like it is not going in use mode. Online says there might be a small button with yellow flag or battery solenoid has fuse that can go bad or can be switch itself. Can someone please help. Battery does not look bad.
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Old 04-21-2019, 01:07 PM   #2
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Hello
In my 2017 Thor freedom 30fe, the use/switch button is not bringing my house battery on. So no power at all. When check battery status panel on wall, everything dead. I cut gene on, every thing works, I plugged in my house outlet using adapter, everything works like lights, tv axera radio. I can hear the sound when I press use/store button. But seems like it is not going in use mode. Online says there might be a small button with yellow flag or battery solenoid has fuse that can go bad or can be switch itself. Can someone please help. Battery does not look bad.



Check that main circuit breaker in the battery area.
If your batteries are good, it's possible that CB tripped.
There's also a long thread that was posted this week regarding a similar issue. You should be able to find it under recent threads. It has a lot of useful information that can only be repeated here.
Do a search for "Need Vegas Help".



Good luck.
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Old 04-21-2019, 01:50 PM   #3
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Hello
In my 2017 Thor freedom 30fe, the use/switch button is not bringing my house battery on. So no power at all. When check battery status panel on wall, everything dead. I cut gene on, every thing works, I plugged in my house outlet using adapter, everything works like lights, tv axera radio. I can hear the sound when I press use/store button. But seems like it is not going in use mode. Online says there might be a small button with yellow flag or battery solenoid has fuse that can go bad or can be switch itself. Can someone please help. Battery does not look bad.
You've done a good job of listing your trouble symptoms and all possible causes so not sure what help you are looking for. Time to get out the voltmeter and start troubleshooting by finding these components and tracing your battery voltage back to the battery buss/fuse panel. BTW there are usually two large fuses on your fuse panel that protect against connecting your battery in reverse - that may be your issue as well.
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Old 04-21-2019, 01:52 PM   #4
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Check that main circuit breaker in the battery area.
If your batteries are good, it's possible that CB tripped.
There's also a long thread that was posted this week regarding a similar issue. You should be able to find it under recent threads. It has a lot of useful information that can only be repeated here.
Do a search for "Need Vegas Help".



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Would you know where is circuit breaker and how does it looks like.
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Old 04-21-2019, 01:58 PM   #5
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Generally close to your batteries and looks like:

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Old 04-21-2019, 02:05 PM   #6
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Would you know where is circuit breaker and how does it looks like.



JamieGeek did a great job describing the CB in the thread "Need Vegas Help" :



"That indicates that you're not getting power from the "house" batteries--weather they are discharged or disconnected due to the breaker under the step.

You can see if they are charged by checking them with a voltmeter (unplugged from 120V and generator off).


While you're under the step there you can look for the breaker--its a little box with a red push button on it and a yellow flag. If the flag is showing the breaker is open--push the flag back in to close it."
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Old 04-21-2019, 11:55 PM   #7
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JamieGeek did a great job describing the CB in the thread "Need Vegas Help" :



"That indicates that you're not getting power from the "house" batteries--weather they are discharged or disconnected due to the breaker under the step.

You can see if they are charged by checking them with a voltmeter (unplugged from 120V and generator off).


While you're under the step there you can look for the breaker--its a little box with a red push button on it and a yellow flag. If the flag is showing the breaker is open--push the flag back in to close it."
I will look again for this breaker. I appreciate for picture. I looked behind my fuse box since it was easy to lift top of bed. And heard the click of solenoid every time press the button. There was fuse as well 5 amp on red wire. I pulled and looked visually and looks fine. I will now start hunting for this disconnect and see if the problem is there. And will let you know. I do want to ask one more question that will my battery stay charged if I plug in regular house outlet, which is not 30amp.
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Old 04-21-2019, 11:57 PM   #8
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I will look again for this breaker. I appreciate for picture. I looked behind my fuse box since it was easy to lift top of bed. And heard the click of solenoid every time press the button. There was fuse as well 5 amp on red wire. I pulled and looked visually and looks fine. I will now start hunting for this disconnect and see if the problem is there. And will let you know. I do want to ask one more question that will my battery stay charged if I plug in regular house outlet, which is not 30amp.
And when you say near battery, you are mentioning house batteries under steps.
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Old 04-22-2019, 02:02 AM   #9
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And when you say near battery, you are mentioning house batteries under steps.

Yes. House batteries, under the stairs. But, if you can hear the relay clicking, I think we've established the fact that the CB is indeed operational as it is powered by the batteries. You might want to now check your main relay to be sure it's closing its contacts.
Do you know how to do that?
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Old 04-22-2019, 03:17 AM   #10
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[QUOTE=Thor-Machine;178653]Yes. House batteries, under the stairs. But, if you can hear the relay clicking, I think we've established the fact that the CB is indeed operational as it is powered by the batteries. You might want to now check your main relay to be sure it's closing its contacts.
Do you know how to do that?[/

Thanks for replying. If you can please give some instructions i will really appreciate. If you can let me know where is located, that will help. Thanks.
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Old 04-22-2019, 03:37 AM   #11
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Yes. House batteries, under the stairs. But, if you can hear the relay clicking, I think we've established the fact that the CB is indeed operational as it is powered by the batteries. You might want to now check your main relay to be sure it's closing its contacts.
Do you know how to do that?[/

Thanks for replying. If you can please give some instructions i will really appreciate. If you can let me know where is located, that will help. Thanks.

The first thing you need to do is follow that clicking noise to locate the solenoid. You can identify it by the two thick red wires attached to it along with a couple smaller wires that activate the solenoid when you press the "Store/Run" switch. It's usually located under the refrigerator by the main panel box on the floor. Your location may vary. Follow the click & you'll find it.
Once you locate it, use a DC voltmeter to measure the voltage on each of the heavy red wires. In the "Store" position you should have 12 volts on one red wire & 0 volts on the other indicating the relay contacts are open & no power is flowing in the circuit. In the "Use" position you should read 12 volts on both red wires indicating the relay contacts are closed and power is flowing through the relay. When using the voltmeter, make sure your black wire is connected to a good ground point.
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