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10-19-2017, 10:17 PM
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I Think We're Lost!
Brand: Still Looking
Model: Tiffin Wayfarer 24 BW
State: New York
Posts: 22,195
THOR #8860
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Originally Posted by Chance
Many larger truck and RV tires have an "L" speed rating which is 75 MPH.
Driving faster than that on an F53 chassis which may have Michelin XRV or similar tires limited to 75 MPH would expose Ford to significant liability. I'd guess that's why they limit speed.
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So while the rig may be willing: the tires probably aren't!
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10-19-2017, 11:03 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: Still Looking
State: Texas
Posts: 6,187
THOR #2121
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Many of the light truck tires, like the 16-inch used on most Class Cs, often have an "R" speed rating which are good for up to 106 MPH (170 km/h). My old Michelins as well as my new ones are R speed rated.
I don't recommend driving any motorhome anywhere near 106 MPH just because the tires may be rated for that speed. My van is much more stable than most As or Cs and I don't cruise above 85 MPH for more than a few minutes at a time even when speed limits are very generous.
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10-20-2017, 12:06 AM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: S.O.B.
State: California
Posts: 1,368
THOR #3483
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Halibut214
Thanks all. Not really interested in removing it as 75 is too fast for me to begin with but I sort of accidentally found I couldn't go any faster than 75 and wanted to be sure there was in fact a governor and not a problem.
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I was recently told by a service writer that there is a limiter on our E450 Axis.
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10-20-2017, 12:24 AM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: 2014 Hurricane 34E
State: Alabama
Posts: 286
THOR #6181
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Halibut214
Is there some sort of speed limiting governor set at 75mph?
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Yes, my 2014 Hurricane does the exact same thing. Thx, Dennis.
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10-20-2017, 02:32 AM
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Site Team
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Axis 24.1 Windjammer
State: Illinois
Posts: 1,179
THOR #7074
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Had our 2017 Axis E450 82 mph. This Summer.
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Rev. Jeffrey 2017 Thor Axis 24.1 E450 Windjammer.
Silver Safe-T-Plus Steering Control
SSF-106-40 SumoSprings Solo Front Bump Stop SSR-107-47 SumoSprings Rear Bump Stop
Hellwig 7718 Front Sway Bar & 7180 Rear Sway Bar
Koni FSD Front Shocks 8805-1042 / Koni FSD Rear Shocks 8805-1043
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10-20-2017, 04:44 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Vegas 24.1
State: Florida
Posts: 892
THOR #5313
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I have been over 80 in Vegas, is too loud at that speed. Engine is not working hard. My Vegas is most stable above 65. Below 65 feels slightly skitish, may be something like gyroscope effect with heavy wheels.
I tow racecar on open trailer, same LT tires rated for 106. Regular trailer tires do not last and have low speed rating.
Is now almost 2 years old, will likely add 2nd a/c, he'll wig bars and sumo springs in front if we keep. Have been considering bigger RV.
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10-20-2017, 06:10 PM
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I Think We're Lost!
Brand: Still Looking
Model: Tiffin Wayfarer 24 BW
State: New York
Posts: 22,195
THOR #8860
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It's probably just me...
But I just don't understand the need for rushing around.
http://www.thorforums.com/forums/att...1&d=1508522990
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10-20-2017, 06:40 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: Still Looking
State: Texas
Posts: 6,187
THOR #2121
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When the speed limit is 70 MPH, a lot of drivers want to do close to 80 in good conditions. At posted 85 MPH, do drivers really go much faster? I don't know but some studies I've read suggest we (collectively) tend to drive at what feels right for the conditions rather than the posted limit.
In any case, what seems much more dangerous is when an old lady driving a Class C is doing 45 MPH in the middle lane of I-75 near Ocala in Florida when traffic flow was close to 80 MPH. There were so many irate drivers and she didn't even move over to right lane.
While speeding is undoubtedly unsafe, going too slow can be just as bad or worse.
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10-20-2017, 07:23 PM
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I Think We're Lost!
Brand: Still Looking
Model: Tiffin Wayfarer 24 BW
State: New York
Posts: 22,195
THOR #8860
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I'll respectfully disagree.
Nothing is more dangerous than a driver who is "beyond their limits."
But I will admit that a lot of driver with questionable driving skills; get tripped up by speed differentials also.
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10-20-2017, 08:22 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: Still Looking
State: Texas
Posts: 6,187
THOR #2121
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Anyone who blocks over 1,000 cars (backup was over a mile long) by doing 45 MPH in the middle lane of an extremely busy interstate reached their driving limits a long time ago and shouldn't be driving at all. They need to hang it up.
Going a little slower like 60 ~ 65 MPH to save fuel is understandable, but 45 MPH is outright irresponsible, selfish, and dangerous.
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10-20-2017, 09:52 PM
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Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Challenger 37GT
State: Ohio
Posts: 54
THOR #2222
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I agree with Chance, that's what I was told about our previous coach. It's the speed rating of the tires.
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10-20-2017, 09:59 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Axis 24.1 KC's Big Box
State: Kansas
Posts: 2,171
THOR #3510
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I googled Governor on motorhome and found this quote: (link attached)
https://www.rv.net/forum/index.cfm/f...print/true.cfm
Hypertech-Max-Energy-Programmers wrote:
Top-Speed Limiter
Automobile manufacturers limit a vehicle's top-speed to match the speed rating of the factory-installed tires. If you have installed tires that have a different speed rating, the Max Energy allows you to raise or lower the vehicle's top-speed limiter to match the speed rating of the newly installed tires. A tire's speed rating for maximum safe speed under perfect conditions is marked on its sidewall. Always obey all traffic laws when driving and only use this feature for off-highway competition in sanctioned events
THERE WERE OTHER OPINIONS stating that the governor prevents the motor and transmission from over reving etc.
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10-20-2017, 10:21 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: ACE 30.3 Sold
State: Arkansas
Posts: 439
THOR #8012
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Chance
Many larger truck and RV tires have an "L" speed rating which is 75 MPH.
Driving faster than that on an F53 chassis which may have Michelin XRV or similar tires limited to 75 MPH would expose Ford to significant liability. I'd guess that's why they limit speed.
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They are speed limited tires, and I also read, not sure if it's true, that Goodyear required Ford to govern the F53 in order to use their tires.
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10-20-2017, 10:37 PM
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I Think We're Lost!
Brand: Still Looking
Model: Tiffin Wayfarer 24 BW
State: New York
Posts: 22,195
THOR #8860
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Chance
Anyone who blocks over 1,000 cars (backup was over a mile long) by doing 45 MPH in the middle lane of an extremely busy interstate reached their driving limits a long time ago and shouldn't be driving at all. They need to hang it up.
Going a little slower like 60 ~ 65 MPH to save fuel is understandable, but 45 MPH is outright irresponsible, selfish, and dangerous.
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While I can easily agree with you that this was dangerous: it's just ONE example.
As someone who makes a living while helping folks settle their insurance claims: the root cause of trying to drive beyond your limits, was actually the root cause of that cluster.
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10-21-2017, 03:48 AM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: SOB 2014 Meridian 36M
State: Washington
Posts: 981
THOR #7205
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The last 8yrs of my working career I drove for USF Reddaway freight lines. Our trucks had liniters set at 62 MPH! Talk about frustrating! I couldn't even pass when there was a truck/passing lane. Numerous times the slow vehicle I was trying to go by would speed up! There was no way I could get around them. Then as soon as the passing lane was gone they would slow back down to 45-50 mph again... Grrr.
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Wenatchee, WA
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10-21-2017, 04:49 AM
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Senior Member
Brand: Redwood
Model: 36FB
State: Arizona
Posts: 1,766
THOR #3610
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 99dart
The last 8yrs of my working career I drove for USF Reddaway freight lines. Our trucks had liniters set at 62 MPH! Talk about frustrating! I couldn't even pass when there was a truck/passing lane. Numerous times the slow vehicle I was trying to go by would speed up! There was no way I could get around them. Then as soon as the passing lane was gone they would slow back down to 45-50 mph again... Grrr.
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I also drove for a living & 90% of those weren't past their skill limit, but just being HUGE jerks (that's putting it mildly).
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10-22-2017, 11:24 PM
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#37
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Axis 24.1 KC's Big Box
State: Kansas
Posts: 2,171
THOR #3510
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Tire Blowout safety info
today...while reading forum discussions..I wandered down below to additional sites and info and found this link
RV Tire Blowout Tips And Informational Video
This is information directly from Michelin regarding what an RV (motorhome) driver should do if a blowout occurs. It is a good read.
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2001 Scamp 13'
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10-26-2017, 10:37 PM
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Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Windsport 29
State: Indiana
Posts: 98
THOR #9245
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As a new owner with our first class A, I have pushed it to 72. In calm air. And that was to get around someone who could not hold a steady speed. That said I wonder if my '01 Vette has a limiter. I have not yet pushed it that hard, past 80, but still wonder will this thing do 175 as rated? As a youngster I would have the answer by now, but being older I just wonder about these things....
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10-26-2017, 10:44 PM
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#39
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I Think We're Lost!
Brand: Still Looking
Model: Tiffin Wayfarer 24 BW
State: New York
Posts: 22,195
THOR #8860
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As we get older: we gain perspective...
In our youth: we gather experience!
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