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01-05-2020, 08:51 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Axis 24.1
State: Maryland
Posts: 123
THOR #5251
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Thor axis 24.1 using a Honda Generator?
Would I be able to use a
Honda EU2000i generator to run the 1 air conditioner?
If I only use 1 appliance at a time?
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01-05-2020, 09:21 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: 37LS outlaw
State: New Jersey
Posts: 516
THOR #5248
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I tried it on a Travel trailer I use to own. Start up load was too much and it tripped the gen out. Was going to try the easy start up kit on the air conditioner but sold the unit for the coach I now own
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01-05-2020, 09:39 PM
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Axis/Vegas Enthusiast
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Axis 24.4
State: Michigan
Posts: 9,837
THOR #1150
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Would probably work if you added a soft start to your A/C. I have one on our Axis and I can run the A/C off a 15A residential plug.
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01-05-2020, 09:51 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Axis 24.1
State: Maryland
Posts: 123
THOR #5251
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JamieGeek
Would probably work if you added a soft start to your A/C. I have one on our Axis and I can run the A/C off a 15A residential plug.
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Would that be something the RV dealer installs?
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01-05-2020, 09:56 PM
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Site Team
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: ACE 27.1
State: Florida
Posts: 14,356
THOR #7035
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That generator is rated at 13.3 Amps AC continuously but will surge to a much higher current so it depends on what size your Air Conditioner is.
If a 15,000 BTU model the answer is NO.
If a 13,500 BTU unit the answer is MAYBE if NO OTHER LOADS exist including the fridge and battery charger (converter).
I have started 15K units with mine but it trips out on overcurrent after a few minutes.
I have seen them run 13.5K units with no other loads.
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01-05-2020, 11:31 PM
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Axis/Vegas Enthusiast
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Axis 24.4
State: Michigan
Posts: 9,837
THOR #1150
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jimbo21793
Would that be something the RV dealer installs?
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Depends on your skillset: If you're good at following directions, can handle some 120V re-wiring, and don't mind climbing on the roof then you can do it.
Don't remember how long it took me, but wasn't that long, an hour or two. I was prepared with all kinds of wire fasteners along with the ones they sell you, some extra wire ties, etc.
I would imagine that a dealer or tech would likely charge about two hours of work for the job.
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01-06-2020, 11:08 AM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: '17-Vegas 24.1
State: California
Posts: 2,227
THOR #13362
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Here’s a link to Amazon for the $219 Soft Start unit.
In the product description it specifically discusses use for starting with a Honda 2000
“The SoftStartRV smooths-out the startup power demand of the A/C compressor. A small lightweight generator, like a Honda EU2000i, can’t handle that power spike - until now. The SoftStartRV reduces compressor startup power demand by up to 70%. So your A/C starts every time. No more hauling around a big, heavy generator”
https://www.amazon.com/SoftStartRV-N.../dp/B07YBMCTBC
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01-06-2020, 12:36 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Freedom Elite 29fe
State: Florida
Posts: 700
THOR #4656
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Would I be able to use a
Honda EU2000i generator to run the 1 air conditioner?
If I only use 1 appliance at a time?
No. Tried that. Won't work.
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01-06-2020, 03:42 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: THOR Chateua 35SF
State: Florida
Posts: 5,850
THOR #11130
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Simple answer...NO. You need two of them running parallel or go to a bigger portable like the Champion 3100 or 3400...or any other make that puts out over 3K watts continuous.
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01-11-2020, 07:21 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Windsport 27K
State: Kentucky
Posts: 881
THOR #2817
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The 2000 watt generator is too small. I suggest the Predator 3500i from Harbor Freight. I have one and it is as good, if not better than the Honda 3000i that I sold with our travel trailer. It runs the AC in our Windsport with power to spare.
https://www.harborfreight.com/3500-w...4aAnj7EALw_wcB
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01-11-2020, 07:30 PM
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Junior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
State: Alabama
Posts: 27
THOR #17401
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We tried the same thing but as stated it would not handel the start surge. We purchased another 2k and was great to power everything. Better to pickup and handel 2 generator's that a 3k or bigger.
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01-11-2020, 07:44 PM
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Junior Member
Brand: Redwood
State: Florida
Posts: 4
THOR #17608
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Had the same problem with tripping as others.
I installed the Microair Easystart 364 on the 13.5K BTU A/C. I now run the AC and converter on a single generator in Florida summers without tripping, using the Yamaha equivalent generator.
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01-11-2020, 07:44 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: Still Looking
Model: Forest River 2400R MBS
State: Missouri
Posts: 280
THOR #13744
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I am just wondering why wouldn't you use the on-board generator? Seems to me s an unnecessary expense to buy another generator and the soft start up kit others mentioned.
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01-11-2020, 07:53 PM
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Junior Member
Brand: Redwood
State: Florida
Posts: 4
THOR #17608
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Weight, cost, maintenance, and fuel storage were all things I didn't want to deal with on a coach installed generator. My Redwood 36RL is already pin heavy. Putting a genertor there will only compound the problem.
Besides, if a Yamaha portable goes out, I just replace it with a trip to a dealer.
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01-11-2020, 07:57 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: Still Looking
Model: Forest River 2400R MBS
State: Missouri
Posts: 280
THOR #13744
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rmoyers@mssi.net
Weight, cost, maintenance, and fuel storage were all things I didn't want to deal with on a coach installed generator. My Redwood 36RL is already pin heavy. Putting a genertor there will only compound the problem.
Besides, if a Yamaha portable goes out, I just replace it with a trip to a dealer.
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I get what you are saying because as far as I know most travel trailer do not have onboard generators making an external unit necessary unless you have shore power.
The OP has a Class A RV with an onboard generator, hence my question.
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01-11-2020, 08:16 PM
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Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Axis 25.3
State: Florida
Posts: 86
THOR #13282
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Our 2016 Axis 24.3 onboard Onan 4k overheats and shuts down at times, our back-up EU200i powers the 13 5 btu ac just fine.
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01-11-2020, 08:31 PM
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Junior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
State: Texas
Posts: 5
THOR #16178
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jimbo21793
Would I be able to use a
Honda EU2000i generator to run the 1 air conditioner?
If I only use 1 appliance at a time? Attachment 22083
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Yes and no. Issue is the startup load. I used my Honda 2000i to successfully run the 13.5 ac in my old travel trailer once I installed a hard start capacitor (about $11 at Amazon) vs the easy start kit listed in another reply for $200+.
here is the link:
https://www.amazon.com/SPP6-Capacito...61289157&psc=1
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01-11-2020, 09:01 PM
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Site Team
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: ACE 27.1
State: Florida
Posts: 14,356
THOR #7035
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Quote:
Originally Posted by br8945@gmail.com
Yes and no. Issue is the startup load. I used my Honda 2000i to successfully run the 13.5 ac in my old travel trailer once I installed a hard start capacitor (about $11 at Amazon) vs the easy start kit listed in another reply for $200+.
here is the link:
https://www.amazon.com/SPP6-Capacito...61289157&psc=1
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Did you install it in parallel with the existing start capacitor?
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01-11-2020, 09:35 PM
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Junior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
State: Texas
Posts: 5
THOR #16178
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 16ACE27
Did you install it in parallel with the existing start capacitor?
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I followed the instructions with the kit:
Two wire hard start kits are connected in parallel with the run capacitor for
Permanent Split Capacitor (PSC) type compressors
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01-11-2020, 11:15 PM
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Site Team
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: ACE 27.1
State: Florida
Posts: 14,356
THOR #7035
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Quote:
Originally Posted by br8945@gmail.com
I followed the instructions with the kit:
Two wire hard start kits are connected in parallel with the run capacitor for
Permanent Split Capacitor (PSC) type compressors
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That doesn't sound right. Changing the capacitance of the starting capacitor gives you more torque to start the motor. Changing the capacitance of the run capacitor changes the magnetic field angle of the auxiliary winding causing a stuttering rotating magnetic field.
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Originally Posted by Run capacitance description
If a wrong capacitance value is installed, it will cause an uneven magnetic field around the rotor. This causes the rotor to hesitate at the uneven spots, resulting in irregular rotation, especially under load. This hesitation can cause the motor to become noisy, increase energy consumption, cause performance to drop and the motor to overheat.
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