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Old 05-01-2019, 08:45 PM   #1
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Toilet ball leaking.

Have a 23U Four Winds. Toilet ball is leaking. Does not hold water. Anyone else have this problem? Thinking of applying vaseline jelly thinking it might improve the seal between the ball and bowl. Other than taking toilet partially apart, looking for any other information. Thanks in advance.
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Old 05-01-2019, 08:59 PM   #2
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Mine will not hold water unless I release the foot pedal quickly allowing it to snap shut. It's an extremely tight fit.
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Old 05-01-2019, 09:02 PM   #3
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Mine will not hold water unless I release the foot pedal quickly allowing it to snap shut. It's an extremely tight fit.
Thanks. I'll have to try this. I have pulled up on the pedal, but no avail.
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Old 05-01-2019, 09:27 PM   #4
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Go to Lowes or Home Depot and buy a small package of hi temp faucet lube. Stinks bad but a very little applied to the rubber gasket under side will last the whole season. Bet you toilet bowl doesn't leak after an application. About $5.
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Old 05-01-2019, 09:34 PM   #5
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Thanks for the help.
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Old 05-01-2019, 11:01 PM   #6
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Mike- I had the same issue on a fairly new unit. I bought Plumber's Grease at Lowe's & gloved up & smeared it all around. It's been working fine for the past 6 months or so now.

When I talked to the service guys about it in Wakarusa, they told me I could have used vasoline & that it works just as well.

Either way, mine was a pretty easy remedy....wish you the same luck.
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Old 05-01-2019, 11:44 PM   #7
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mine happened after i let the water in the bowl evaporate dry durring storage. Finally got it working after soaking it with CLR a few times...I had ordered a new seal and that was my last resort try before changing the seal.... I've been careful to keep it flooded and it has lasted a few years now....
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Old 05-02-2019, 11:04 AM   #8
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Pour a little vegetable or olive oil in the bowl before storage...just enough to cover the bottom. It doesn't evaporate near as fast as water, isn't petroleum based and will not damage anything. Go as clear as possible...not the deep yellow colored.
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Old 05-02-2019, 01:08 PM   #9
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Have a 23U Four Winds. Toilet ball is leaking. Does not hold water. Anyone else have this problem? Thinking of applying vaseline jelly thinking it might improve the seal between the ball and bowl. Other than taking toilet partially apart, looking for any other information. Thanks in advance.
Mike,
Many past posts on this with people advising NOT to use Vaseline on the rubber seal because it will damage it even further. Use something like Aladdin silicone grease used for rubber pool equipment seals. I used it on our Axis and it took care of the problem.
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Old 05-02-2019, 02:39 PM   #10
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Go to Lowes or Home Depot and buy a small package of hi temp faucet lube. Stinks bad but a very little applied to the rubber gasket under side will last the whole season. .
C'mon... When compared to how a toilet should be used; how bad can it be?

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Old 05-02-2019, 07:33 PM   #11
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I had this problem last week. Found some instructions in the manual that actually worked for almost the entire weekend.

It said to press down the lever with one hand and apply downward pressure to the entire rubber ring with the other hand. Then release the lever and add really hot tap water to the bowl. It held water for a full two days after doing it.
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Old 05-02-2019, 07:52 PM   #12
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Pour a little vegetable or olive oil in the bowl before storage...just enough to cover the bottom. It doesn't evaporate near as fast as water, isn't petroleum based and will not damage anything. Go as clear as possible...not the deep yellow colored.
I've thought about doing this several times...but I'm reluctant. Oil goes rancid...and I keep imagining the sticky oil residue staining mess left ringing the bowl.... nothing a little soapy water wouldn't take care of I suppose, but still...not something I want to deal with when getting rady to take her out on the road.
Instead, I've been in the habit of pouring a shot of the blue tank chemical into the bowl with a few inches of water in it...basically making a higher viscosity blue bowl fill with pleasant aroma
Honestly I've never really verified if it slows the evaporation or not, but it seems like it might.... Once in a while if it's in storage an extra long time I'll add a bit more water to it, but it's not often...
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Old 05-02-2019, 11:42 PM   #13
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Mine will not hold water unless I release the foot pedal quickly allowing it to snap shut. It's an extremely tight fit.


Yep. This worked for us. In fact, the instructions on ours said to remove foot to the side so the ball “slams” shut. Only time I don’t do this is during the night when DW is sleeping.
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