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Old 04-10-2019, 11:34 AM   #1
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Vegas/Ford E450 Steering

Was thinking about adding a Safety-Plus to my Vegas but noticed that there appears to be a steering stabilizer already there. Or is this something else?
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Old 04-10-2019, 11:56 AM   #2
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Was thinking about adding a Safety-Plus to my Vegas but noticed that there appears to be a steering stabilizer already there. Or is this something else?
Its basically a shock absorber but doesn't have the return to center feature that the Safety-Plus has.
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Old 04-10-2019, 12:01 PM   #3
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Looks like a steering damper, not a stabilizer with return to center springs.
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Old 04-10-2019, 12:30 PM   #4
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Vegas/Ford E450 Steering

I just replaced that stock damper with a Roadmaster RSSC. Easy install and basically does what the Safe-T Plus does.

Itís an easy DIY install and less expensive. It has a 2-year warranty vs the lifetime warranty Safe-T Plus has.

I think the Roadmaster is fine for a Class C E-450 while the Safe-T Plus may be better for the Class Aís.
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Old 04-10-2019, 03:54 PM   #5
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two different things
the dampener is just a dampener.
devices like safe t plus are centering devices, intended mainly to hold the line in case of asymmetrical blowouts or the like. They try to force the steering gear back to front and center
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Old 04-10-2019, 04:00 PM   #6
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The Saftey Plus and Road master self center themselves. They provide about 500# of force in each direction (and zero straight ahead).

I love mine... it straigtens out the wheel on its own once you make your turn in like a parking lot or city streets.... Reminds me of a front wheel drive car that you turned on to a road and accelerated at the same time and the wheel spins quickly until its going straight ahead.
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Old 04-10-2019, 05:28 PM   #7
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+ Caster, the organic steering stabilizer.

POPULAR MECHANICS MAY 1973:
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If too little caster exists, the car will wander and weave,
thus necessitating constant corrections in steering.
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Some E350/E450 have handling issues, some do not, the following may explain the difference:

Ford ships all E350/E450 cut aways with identical fixed, non adjustable
caster/camber collars, "one size fits all". You can recognize these collars because they are keyed and cannot be rotated. They are marked "F8UA-AA 0+.25" on the passenger side and "E97A-CA +0-0" on the drivers side.

The RV builder almost never changes the Ford collars, as a result:

If the final RV build is nose down one degree then the runtime caster will be about +3.5 degrees. These units can have a real wandering problem.

If the final RV build is nose level then the runtime caster will be about +4.5 degrees. These units are probably indifferent.

If the final RV build is nose up one degree then the runtime caster will be about +5.5 degrees. These units are probably just fine, possibly excepting the 31+ footers.

So, some RVs have a problem with wandering at highway speeds and some do not have a problem. JMO.
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Old 04-10-2019, 06:17 PM   #8
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Harvey, What you said may all be true but the one of the main function is when you have a blowout on the front axle you can maintian control of the RV.

Plus as I mention before it has a self centering effect - more so than any adjustment can provide without a mechanical push. Its real nice on windy days, your not see-sawing wheel to keep straight (correcting then over correcting). Must easier to hold steady since you have resistants.
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