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Old 03-13-2018, 02:24 AM   #1
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Toads , buying this week . Need some input

Just got back from 4 months on the road, Thor Windsport 35 m.This rig was awesome . But we didnít have a car. Bikes . Lost 20lbs, lol, now we are buying a toad. Looking at Ford C-Max Ford Focus or chev sonic . Any ideas Thanks.
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Old 03-13-2018, 02:36 AM   #2
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Our Sonic is perfect for us: 2700 lbs, plenty of room for people when driving and lotsa other stuff when being towed. Also, the gas mileage is pretty good as well.

No fancy setup; Roadmaster $350 baseplate, Reese adjustable $85 tow bar, Roadmaster $56 wiring kit (adds extra bulbs in the tail light assembly) and safety cables.

We didn't buy it as a toad (was bought a year before the coach) but has worked out great.
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Old 03-13-2018, 08:57 AM   #3
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Ford Focus, put it in neutral and pull, easy.
FWD automatic, too.

80,000+miles
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Old 03-13-2018, 09:28 AM   #4
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C-Max and Focus production ends in May thus get one early--you'll likely be limited to whatever is on the dealer's lot. Ford is moving Focus production overseas (the plant will then be retooled to make Rangers and Broncos). Focuses wont be available after that until 2020 or so.

Aside from that we're happy with ours have towed it (on a dolly) over 2500 miles now.
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Old 03-13-2018, 09:44 AM   #5
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I actually picked up my '14 Focus down in Okeechobee, FL at a shop which excels in purchasing 'insurance totalled' vehicles, with body damage only, fixing them up, and selling them after certification of 'rebuild'.

It had only 19k miles, was in excellent condition, and after adding the tow plate and wiring and battery cutoff, it's been towed over 10k miles and driven another 12k...

$6,000
and they have plenty to choose from(Focus, Fiesta models)
https://www.amercars.com/cars
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Old 03-13-2018, 10:59 AM   #6
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We flat tow a 2016 Ford Focus, automatic. Easy to set up, put in neutral and disconnect the neg terminal of the battery (I use a battery disconnect, so just turn a knob). I don't really feel it back there.
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Old 03-13-2018, 01:04 PM   #7
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Losing 20 pounds seems like a good thing... Congratulations!
The Focus is an easy little "Toad" to bring along with you: I just prefer Jeeps.
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Old 03-13-2018, 02:07 PM   #8
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Daughter has a Focus, typical Ford eats tires. Auto door locks failed in the locked position after two years. $350 per door to fix. Power mirror switch on drivers door broke. Button on shift level broke, doesn't seem to affect operation. She seems to like it other wise.

although a lot more expensive we find the Jeep Wrangler more versatile for our life style.
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Old 03-14-2018, 12:05 AM   #9
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Keeps getting real expensive with 4 down.

Have found nice cars, Ford Focus , cmax and Chevy sonic. Then we saw the prices for 4 wheel down flat tow bars and breaking system, a little taken aback. Was wondering how folks like the dollyS and which ones are good. Iím hoping someone says donít be a baby go for it. Lol
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Old 03-14-2018, 12:14 AM   #10
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See post #2 in this thread. You don't need a $1000 tow bar if you can drive a car with some coordination to connect it to the hitch on the MH. Braking systems can be under $500. And the convenience of towing 4 down is worth spending more than you would on a dolly.
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Old 03-14-2018, 12:22 AM   #11
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Have found nice cars, Ford Focus , cmax and Chevy sonic. Then we saw the prices for 4 wheel down flat tow bars and breaking system, a little taken aback. Was wondering how folks like the dollyS and which ones are good. Iím hoping someone says donít be a baby go for it. Lol
Don't be a baby--go for it

We like our Dolly (the Acme "EZE-TOW" Dolly) it has served us well for a couple of seasons and 3000+ miles.

Its pulled both our C-Max Energi and Escape without issue. The thing you have to remember with a dolly is that it will take 15-20 minutes to get the car ready to go and that connecting up the safety chains means crawling around underneath.

I mainly chose to dolly tow so that we could tow either car and that one is a lease and will be replaced at some point.
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Old 03-14-2018, 01:42 AM   #12
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We had the ACME tow dolly and then went the flat tow route. Useing a dolly was OK, but I had to keep checking the straps (they would loosen up sometimes) and it would take me around 15 minutes to hook it up. Crawling under the car to hook the safety chain in the rain wasn't fun. It also took two people to safely drive it up on the dolly. Now with the flat tow it takes me around 5 minutes to hook up and it doesn't take two people. Also, no crawling under the car. I'm more relaxed with the flat towing knowing it won't slip out of the straps.
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Old 03-15-2018, 05:41 AM   #13
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We tow a Chevy Equinox 2010 with no problem behind a Thor Axis
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Old 03-15-2018, 02:29 PM   #14
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My requirements for a toad were to seat at least 4 people and still have room in the back for 2 large dogs. This means probably a small SUV of some sort. Since I already own a 2012 Honda CR-V I set it up for towing. It has AWD, automatic tranny, plenty of room inside, and good fuel economy, so it checks all the boxes for me. It has 100K miles on it and has had zero problems.

If I didn't already own the CRV I might consider something else, like a manual-tranny Forester, but I'd probably still go with a decent used CRV. If I didn't need as much room inside I would consider a Kia Soul or a Jeep.
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Old 03-15-2018, 05:31 PM   #15
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Don't forget to look at a Fiat 500 4 door, manual shift. Cheap, light weight, put in neutral and tow, and did I say cheap. I purchased a 2014, 20,000 miles for less than $10,000. The 4 door has plenty of room for 4 people and loads of windows and storage.

I use Blue Ox tow equipment and their braking system. My wife can hook up in 5 minutes.

We started with a tow dolly, but I prefer 4 down (I don't want to have to take a shower after hooking up).

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Losing 20 pounds seems like a good thing... Congratulations!
The Focus is an easy little "Toad" to bring along with you: I just prefer Jeeps.

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Old 03-15-2018, 07:30 PM   #17
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The latest edition of Motorhome Magazine has an additional portion in the April edition with a complete list of recommended toads. FYI.
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Old 03-16-2018, 04:32 AM   #18
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I asked the same question about 6 months ago and got lots of advice. We went with a 2018 Jeep Cherokee and love it. Biggest problem was finding the Mopar wiring kit that provides power to the steering system. If anyone out there is thinking about the Cherokee, start looking for the wiring kit right away.

Regarding the cost of tow bar, base plate, braking system, etc., I'm going to repeat a comment posted by someone else. "You've spent a good amount of money already on the MH and the car. Why are you worried about money now?"

Even though all that stuff and its installation was costly, I know it was done right with quality equipment and I won't have to have it done again. Or God forbid, look at the rearview camera and wonder where the car went!!!!!
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Old 03-16-2018, 03:04 PM   #19
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gary d,

Be sure to let us know what you end up buying.

I too should ride my bike and lose 20 pounds, but I would just gain it back while in the hospital.
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Also looking to purchase dingy

We are also looking into dingy options. I've narrowed it down two.
First choice would be a Suzuki Samari hardtop. Second choice leaning toward Fiat 500.
I'm finding that decent Suzuki Samari's are like unicorns to find lol.
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