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rynosback 06-23-2019 05:30 AM

Wire supports under the slides
 
I noticed that one of my wire supports was completely detached on the kitchen slide. The other one on the same slide was cracked 80% getting ready to break. Not to mention that a hangers that retain the wires that are hooked onto the support were broken.
The 80% broken one.
https://www.m109riders.com/forums/at...2&d=1561265645

A picture us the broken one. Once I unbolted it and trimmed the support to even.
https://www.m109riders.com/forums/at...4&d=1561265696

Here is what I mean by the hangers. Arrows pointing to them and where they should be.
https://www.m109riders.com/forums/at...8&d=1561265813

Step one, unbolt the end and clean up the end of the support.
Step two, cut a piece of the aluminum strip and drill 2 holes matching the holes in the rail on the slide. Which I bought from Lowe’s.
Step 3, drill two holes in the support to match the existing holes. I made a template and transferred over where the holes where.
Step 4, reassemble
Step 5, clean and lube the other side of the support. I used some anti seize lube.
Step 6, I took zip tires and strapped the hangers back onto the support.

What it looked like fixed.
https://www.m109riders.com/forums/at...6&d=1561265762

Cummins12V98 06-23-2019 01:55 PM

YER so abusive!

wingnut60 06-23-2019 05:26 PM

Ryan,
Took this long to break? Lucky you.

rynosback 06-23-2019 05:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wingnut60 (Post 189266)
Ryan,
Took this long to break? Lucky you.

I did not realize that this was a common failure.

Big Willy 06-23-2019 07:47 PM

Your use of a clamping plate is much better than the original set up which caused the plastic to crack. I've repaired these before using a galvanized hinge to provide more freedom of movement. Used small machine screws, fender washers and nuts to connect it to the carrier.

Walker 06-23-2019 10:16 PM

Ours haven't broken yet either.... knock on wood..... But I have the hinges, backing plate, machine screws all lined up in a kit.

wingnut60 06-24-2019 02:46 AM

Ryan,
Have owned a DRV since '07 and have experience with these wire supports--sooner or later (kind of like the black tank valve) they will break. Either where yours broke, or in the middle, or at the pivot. Some of them are too long, some too short, some attached in the wrong place--whatever. Cold weather operation can be tough on them also. What did you think about the wire looms? You can't take them off, and you can't replace them, without disconnecting the wires that go thru them.....

rynosback 06-24-2019 02:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wingnut60 (Post 189339)
Ryan,
Have owned a DRV since '07 and have experience with these wire supports--sooner or later (kind of like the black tank valve) they will break. Either where yours broke, or in the middle, or at the pivot. Some of them are too long, some too short, some attached in the wrong place--whatever. Cold weather operation can be tough on them also. What did you think about the wire looms? You can't take them off, and you can't replace them, without disconnecting the wires that go thru them.....

I bet that you could replace the loom. Most of them have a slit in them to push the wires through. At least the smaller ones. As I make a plug and play harness to add a Stebel air horn a M109R. And that loom has a slit.
The black tank valve went bad about 9 months to a year. On about every DRV made.

ilpuller 07-01-2019 01:00 PM

Me too
 
Checked mine and 2 of the 3 are starting to break. Iím going with the hinge method on all 3. Thanks Ryan for all of your posts.

Porkchop 07-01-2019 07:20 PM

I've had 6 DRV's and had 1 of these break. Fixed it with an old door hinge. I've NEVER EVER had a tank valve go bad. So I guess not "every DRV ever made". By the way, DRV does not make the valves. They buy them from the OEM. And I really, really, really doubt they have a special line just for "cheap ones for DRV". It's the nature of the beast. They can go bad on any rig. Even a million $ bus.

Bill

wingnut60 07-02-2019 04:30 AM

porkchop--what about the OEM batteries? What brand are they?

And happy for your tank valve history--for me, 2 DRVs, 2 black tank valves bad, 1 at 2 years, 1 at 3 years. But both hard to operate from first pull. However, both were used units, so possibly they were mistreated by PO's...

As to the wire supports--2 DRVs, 4 supports snapped...but I just have to admit to misusing them by opening/closing the slides.

rynosback 07-02-2019 07:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ilpuller (Post 190660)
Checked mine and 2 of the 3 are starting to break. Iím going with the hinge method on all 3. Thanks Ryan for all of your posts.

No problem, glad that you are enjoying them.

rynosback 07-02-2019 07:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Porkchop (Post 190723)
I've had 6 DRV's and had 1 of these break. Fixed it with an old door hinge. I've NEVER EVER had a tank valve go bad. So I guess not "every DRV ever made". By the way, DRV does not make the valves. They buy them from the OEM. And I really, really, really doubt they have a special line just for "cheap ones for DRV". It's the nature of the beast. They can go bad on any rig. Even a million $ bus.

Bill

You are lucky on the tank valves. I have replaced the black and grey valve.

Porkchop 07-02-2019 01:22 PM

I doubt that I'm lucky. I think that is actually the norm. You just hear the loud unhappy people more. Pretty hard to have a conversation about what doesn't go wrong.

And I'm 100% positive DRV doesn't make batteries. Nor does anyone build 'special' just for DRV> As a matter of record 4 of my units had batteries installed by the dealer, not the factory. And yes=all of the trailers were new.

As long as the public is buying ONLY by price manuf will cut costs where possible. Ever walk up to the counter at the burger joint and offer to pay more for a better product? Or so that they can raise the wages?

Bill

Cummins12V98 07-02-2019 04:22 PM

They certainly bought NO name batteries for my 16. They were plain black with no name.

Lasted 3 years. NOT impressed. Will see how the Costco Interstates do.

rynosback 07-02-2019 07:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Porkchop (Post 190841)
I doubt that I'm lucky. I think that is actually the norm. You just hear the loud unhappy people more. Pretty hard to have a conversation about what doesn't go wrong.

And I'm 100% positive DRV doesn't make batteries. Nor does anyone build 'special' just for DRV> As a matter of record 4 of my units had batteries installed by the dealer, not the factory. And yes=all of the trailers were new.

As long as the public is buying ONLY by price manuf will cut costs where possible. Ever walk up to the counter at the burger joint and offer to pay more for a better product? Or so that they can raise the wages?

Bill

Bill, I personally think it was the way they were routed and the length of the cable used that really caused the early demise. I’m not complaining at all. I do not post problems just to post them and complain. If I see something wrong, I will post it as well as a solution or ask for people advise. I agree that there are people that just post negative things just to complain, but I am not one of those people. I choose to post helpful information about issues to contribute to the forum and help other DRV owners.
I would disagree with it is hard to have a conversation about the GREAT things of DRV. For the most part people flock to forums for two reasons in my opinion.
1. They have a problem and they are looking for solutions.
2. Looking for people that are like minded and to be social. As there is a common interest, DRV.
Happy and safe traveling.

MS60ocb 07-03-2019 02:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cummins12V98 (Post 190876)
Will see how the Costco Interstates do.

I'm an Interstate battery fan but does Costco have a special brand or just the pricing.

With standard care the Interstate Batteries have not let me down used in the application intended.
Clay

Porkchop 07-03-2019 02:57 PM

Rynosback=I agree 100% with almost everything you said. Thanks

Bill

Cummins12V98 07-03-2019 03:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MS60ocb (Post 191049)
I'm an Interstate battery fan but does Costco have a special brand or just the pricing.

With standard care the Interstate Batteries have not let me down used in the application intended.
Clay


They may have a line just for costco I don't know. The batteries I have purchased from Costco over the years have all been US Made. Batteries dies on our 07.5 MS Costco was not open yet so I bought two 6V Interstates from NAPA and they were Made in Mexico.

Porthole 07-12-2019 03:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cummins12V98 (Post 190876)
They certainly bought NO name batteries for my 16. They were plain black with no name.

Lasted 3 years. NOT impressed. Will see how the Costco Interstates do.


I was told the four batteries installed and ready to be shipped with our trailer were un-branded Trojans 105's

When two batteries were deleted due to a snafu, I was credited $50 each.


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