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08-20-2018, 09:10 PM
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Junior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
State: Idaho
Posts: 22
THOR #11367
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Axxera Backup camera
Hello, we have a problem that's driving us nuts. We keep our Windsport 34P's Axxera radio on Camera mode to monitor our tow vehicle. The problem is, everytime we use the blinkers, the screen view switches to give a side view but then, after changing lanes, DOES NOT switch back to camera mode. It gives us the radio screen! So the driver then had to take his eyes off the road and fiddle with the screen to get back to Camera view. Any ideas?
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08-21-2018, 12:17 AM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Four Winds 31W
State: Michigan
Posts: 535
THOR #9522
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It's designed to work that way unfortunately.
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1999 Aero Cub F-21 trailer
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08-21-2018, 01:54 AM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: 2016 Vegas 25.2
State: Florida
Posts: 2,245
THOR #1589
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One solution that has been discussed on this forum is to add an additional monitor, either just for the rear or for that and the mirror cameras, too.
My problem with the Axxera display is that it sits too far below my line of sight. For this reason, the side cameras are worthless to me. Adding an additional monitor is on my wish list, for only the rear camera. At the same time, I might replace the camera with a better one.
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08-22-2018, 04:12 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Vegas 2018 24.1
State: Florida
Posts: 153
THOR #12484
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Quote:
Originally Posted by srambus
Hello, we have a problem that's driving us nuts. We keep our Windsport 34P's Axxera radio on Camera mode to monitor our tow vehicle. The problem is, everytime we use the blinkers, the screen view switches to give a side view but then, after changing lanes, DOES NOT switch back to camera mode. It gives us the radio screen! So the driver then had to take his eyes off the road and fiddle with the screen to get back to Camera view. Any ideas?
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My 2018 Vegas, 2 step process
Cut orange wire from wiring harness and radio will not cut out when using turn signal.
Update the firmware downloaded from the website and will then auto switch back to backup camera.
Bill
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2006 Gulf Stream G24 Sprinter Van
2004 Newmar Scottsdale 3456
2002 National See Breeze 1341
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08-22-2018, 04:20 PM
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I Think We're Lost!
Brand: Still Looking
Model: Tiffin Wayfarer 24 BW
State: New York
Posts: 18,427
THOR #8860
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While not cheap: the idea of adding an extra monitor (and about three more cameras), has a lot going for it. 
You set it up to keep an eye on your Toad; and have cameras also watching the adjacent lanes on each side of you...
You can toggle back and forth to better see what's going on around you with this setup.
(The OEM side cameras come on too late into the game; to help you decide if you should consider moving over.
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08-22-2018, 05:28 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Vegas 2018 24.1
State: Florida
Posts: 153
THOR #12484
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Or if the Radio not playing when using the side mirrors doesn’t bother you just upgrade the firmware. It’s specifically made to correct the failure to switch back to the back up camera
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2006 Gulf Stream G24 Sprinter Van
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08-22-2018, 06:37 PM
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Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Palazzo 36.3
State: Texas
Posts: 70
THOR #6728
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mstng
Or if the Radio not playing when using the side mirrors doesn’t bother you just upgrade the firmware. It’s specifically made to correct the failure to switch back to the back up camera
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I did this last week on my Palazzo. I had the fish the usb port out from behind the dash to upgrade the firmware.
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drive: 2018 Thor Palazzo 36.3
tows: 2017 Jeep Cherokee Trailhawk
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08-22-2018, 06:38 PM
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Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Palazzo 36.3
State: Texas
Posts: 70
THOR #6728
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob Denman
While not cheap: the idea of adding an extra monitor (and about three more cameras), has a lot going for it. 
You set it up to keep an eye on your Toad; and have cameras also watching the adjacent lanes on each side of you...
You can toggle back and forth to better see what's going on around you with this setup.
(The OEM side cameras come on too late into the game; to help you decide if you should consider moving over. 
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Have you done this? Where did you mount the cameras and run the wiring? Any pictures?
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drive: 2018 Thor Palazzo 36.3
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08-22-2018, 07:41 PM
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I Think We're Lost!
Brand: Still Looking
Model: Tiffin Wayfarer 24 BW
State: New York
Posts: 18,427
THOR #8860
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It's not a modification that I've done: but my theory is sound.
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08-22-2018, 08:13 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: Still Looking
Model: Travato
State: Florida
Posts: 2,439
THOR #1765
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr Sunshine
One solution that has been discussed on this forum is to add an additional monitor, either just for the rear or for that and the mirror cameras, too.
My problem with the Axxera display is that it sits too far below my line of sight. For this reason, the side cameras are worthless to me. Adding an additional monitor is on my wish list, for only the rear camera. At the same time, I might replace the camera with a better one.
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A garmin 760 and garmin cable will do the same thing for you and give you a good GPS as well.
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08-23-2018, 02:05 AM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: 2017 Windsport 29M
State: Indiana
Posts: 3,692
THOR #5196
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Quote:
Originally Posted by lo-tek
Have you done this? Where did you mount the cameras and run the wiring? Any pictures?
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I ordered a quad view monitor from Rear View Safety, it’s essentially a plug and play. You can view one, two, or all three cameras at the same time. I used an adhesive mounting disc and a Ram suction mount to attach the monitor on the dash. If you don’t want to go that route, and don’t use your side cameras, you can clip the trigger wires which activate the cameras when turn signals are used.
https://www.rearviewsafety.com/
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08-23-2018, 02:39 AM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Gemini 24TX (Formerly)
State: California
Posts: 1,433
THOR #5821
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Those side cameras IMO cause more problems than they solve. I had them on my former 41 foot DP, but still relied on what I saw in the mirrors before changing lanes etc. Don't have them on the Gemini and don't miss them.
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08-23-2018, 12:52 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Vegas 2018 24.1
State: Florida
Posts: 153
THOR #12484
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I agree, side cameras are a waste. I can see both blade sides perfectly with the lower parabolic mirrors. The side cameras are only a distraction for me.
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2018 Vegas 24.1
2006 Gulf Stream G24 Sprinter Van
2004 Newmar Scottsdale 3456
2002 National See Breeze 1341
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08-23-2018, 01:03 PM
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I Think We're Lost!
Brand: Still Looking
Model: Tiffin Wayfarer 24 BW
State: New York
Posts: 18,427
THOR #8860
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I use the cameras: I just don't trust my life to them... 
They're kind of like "another arrow in the quiver".
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Current coach: Tiffin Wayfarer 24 BW
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08-23-2018, 01:17 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Vegas 2018 24.1
State: Florida
Posts: 153
THOR #12484
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob Denman
I use the cameras: I just don't trust my life to them...
They're kind of like "another arrow in the quiver".
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Perhaps the 2018 Vegas mirrors are different as the side cameras offer no additional information for me.
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2018 Vegas 24.1
2006 Gulf Stream G24 Sprinter Van
2004 Newmar Scottsdale 3456
2002 National See Breeze 1341
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08-23-2018, 01:20 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Four Winds 31W
State: Michigan
Posts: 535
THOR #9522
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On my 31W the side cameras show me exactly where the rear wheels are.
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Pete and Carolynn Foss from Oxford, MI
2018 Four Winds 31W
1999 Aero Cub F-21 trailer
1977 Tioga 24 foot RV
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08-23-2018, 01:53 PM
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I Think We're Lost!
Brand: Still Looking
Model: Tiffin Wayfarer 24 BW
State: New York
Posts: 18,427
THOR #8860
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If you could adjust them for where they are aimed: they could be more useful...
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Current coach: Tiffin Wayfarer 24 BW
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08-23-2018, 02:23 PM
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Axis/Vegas Enthusiast
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Axis 24.1
State: Michigan
Posts: 9,239
THOR #1150
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The problem I have with the side camera's is that they are on a delay: Half the time I'm already over in the lane or have made the turn by the time the camera is showing anything.
Yes I know: "You really should turn your turn signal's on earlier to give traffic a chance to notice!" To this I say: "Bollocks it gives traffic a chance to speed up and get in my way if I turn them on earlier!"
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08-23-2018, 02:48 PM
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I Think We're Lost!
Brand: Still Looking
Model: Tiffin Wayfarer 24 BW
State: New York
Posts: 18,427
THOR #8860
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I just sort of have gotten used to turning the signals on; about two seconds earlier...
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Current coach: Tiffin Wayfarer 24 BW
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08-23-2018, 06:24 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Gemini 24TX (Formerly)
State: California
Posts: 1,433
THOR #5821
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When I had the side cameras on the DP, the delay IMO made them not partially, but totally useless and frankly dangerous. I fortunately had a fifteen inch screen on the dashboard, and was able to convert it, so all three images (left, right & rear) were continuously displayed. That made it a little more useful, but I still depended on what I saw in the mirrors, not from the cameras.
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