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Old 09-26-2018, 02:10 PM   #1
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Electric E-450!

Hey how about an EV RV that can only go 110 miles ! LOL

https://insideevs.com/ford-e-450-ele...lightning/amp/

Says they will even convert an existing E-450 to EV (yeah for how much! and can you get more range than 110 miles).

Doesn't really say how big the battery is. Would need like 4x or 5x the size to get any meaningful range out of the thing which means 8 or 10 hours to charge with a fast charger! Wow that has to be one big battery.
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Old 09-26-2018, 02:21 PM   #2
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At this point: I'm thinking about "screen doors in submarines"...

But they will eventually figure out a way to make iut work!
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Old 09-26-2018, 02:24 PM   #3
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"The new model will have an electric range of 110 miles – depending on route and driver."

There is your disclaimer. It's always the loose nut behind the wheel and anything other than flat ground that kills electric vehicles options.
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Old 09-26-2018, 02:25 PM   #4
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If you can pump enough volume air into a submarine, screen doors will work.
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Old 09-26-2018, 02:28 PM   #5
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"The new model will have an electric range of 110 miles – depending on route and driver."

There is your disclaimer. It's always the loose nut behind the wheel and anything other than flat ground that kills electric vehicles options.
Sure, however, now that I've had 2 EV's it really isn't that hard to achieve the rated mileage. In fact its pretty easy to go above it.

My Focus Electric was rated around 70 miles. In the summer I could easily squeeze out 80 miles or more from it (we won't talk about winter LOL..50 miles because the heater was just a resistive element. But then you don't use an RV in the winter too much...right?? LOL).

In the Bolt, which is rated at 238 miles, I'm averaging around 250 miles a "tank" of electrons. Haven't had the Bolt in winter yet to know what I'll get out of it.
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Old 09-26-2018, 02:32 PM   #6
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If you can pump enough volume air into a submarine, screen doors will work.
I guess it would!
It's better than forgetting to add a relief valve...


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Old 09-26-2018, 07:29 PM   #7
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One hundred ten miles is not much in the way of range. Anyone thinking about increased electrical load when everyone plugs these things in. We are not talking about a trivial amount of electrical energy to recharge these things.
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One hundred ten miles is not much in the way of range. Anyone thinking about increased electrical load when everyone plugs these things in. We are not talking about a trivial amount of electrical energy to recharge these things.
I'm thinking boondocking capacity ands 110 is plenty for this application, though I hear what you're saying. As the technology improves, it becomes more affordable and lasts longer. 'Morton's on the Move' did a vid on installing a repurposed Tesla battery from wrecked car. They wouldn't address recharging it at the time. Something about doing it right (charging profile?). The Technology has proven 'adaptable'. Like everything else, it just needs more time for other applications. All MOO (My Opinion Only).
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We may have to start seeing some new nuclear powerplants popping up...
After all: if ONE Christmas decoration can do this...

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Old 09-26-2018, 08:34 PM   #10
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We may have to start seeing some new nuclear powerplants popping up...
After all: if ONE Christmas decoration can do this...
Actually if you watch those Christmas light shows on TV (where they show the real extravagant shows that people do) you'll note that many trip the breakers with their setups and the really serious people actually have to upgrade their home electric beyond the standard 80 amp service.

Here is that Morton's on the move video:
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Old 09-26-2018, 08:42 PM   #11
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It would go farther if you ran the generator to charge the battery
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No matter how much power we have (Regardless of it's source...): we ALWAYS seem to end up wanting just a little bit more...
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Old 09-26-2018, 08:57 PM   #13
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80 Amp Service...how sweet!! My house is 400!!! GA power invites us to private Christmas Parties!!
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Old 09-26-2018, 09:31 PM   #14
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For RV use, a plug-in hybrid electric drive makes a lot more sense to me for the time being. A system similar to the new Transit to be introduced in Europe would make a much more affordable and functional motorhome. It could be easily scaled in size to match RV requirements.

For motorhomes in the E-450 size range (14,500 GVWR) a 2-liter engine driving a generator is about all that would be needed to extend range indefinitely. The batteries could then power the “house” while camping if off the grid, and if they get low, the generator would only need to run 30~60 minutes per day even if boondocking.

I’ve been expecting a clever company to integrate a plug-in chassis with RV electrical needs for a very long time. It would not surprise me if it happens commercially (mass produced) in next five years or so; starting with smaller rigs.
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Old 09-26-2018, 09:46 PM   #15
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It's the same difference in eating humus or peanut butter...I prefer extra crunchy. I'm a fan of fossil fuel. Or, sailboaters vs. powerboaters. I'm a go faster! I wouldn't buy an electric MH if it would go completely across the country, non-stop.
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Old 09-26-2018, 10:59 PM   #16
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It's the same difference in eating humus or peanut butter...I prefer extra crunchy. I'm a fan of fossil fuel. Or, sailboaters vs. powerboaters. I'm a go faster! I wouldn't buy an electric MH if it would go completely across the country, non-stop.
In other words: "More Power"!

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Old 09-27-2018, 12:28 AM   #17
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That's about the same range as the Ford V10!!!
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Old 09-27-2018, 12:51 AM   #18
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Headed to wine country next week, 600 miles one way. 10 hours in my rig, 5 1/2 days in the electric. Hmmm. I'll be back before I get there.
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Old 09-27-2018, 01:04 AM   #19
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There’s a difference between powering the vehicle and powering the house. These are two very different needs, but they can be commingled.

I like driving 80 MPH uphill as much as the next guy, but at same time wouldn’t mind having some of that vehicle power useable to “silently” power the house while camping.
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Old 09-27-2018, 02:06 AM   #20
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Once the truck manufacturers stop listening to the Bubba's and start making hybrids the game is on for RV's.
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