Ford 7.3 Liter Triton engine?

[Chateau_Nomad]

I just watched a review of a 2023 Thor Windsport claiming it came with a Ford 7.3 TRITON (not Godzilla) V8 engine. Everything I search comes up "Godzilla"... what's up with this?? Anyone else know anything about this?

[16ACE27]

What "review" was that. Triton was the 6.8 L V-10, the 7.3 L V-8 is indeed the "Godzilla" engine.

[EA37TS]

Originally Posted by Chateau_Nomad

I just watched a review of a 2023 Thor Windsport claiming it came with a Ford 7.3 TRITON (not Godzilla) V8 engine. Everything I search comes up "Godzilla"... what's up with this?? Anyone else know anything about this?

Most folks doing the reviews are sales people and don’t know anything at all about what they are selling.

[Chateau_Nomad]

Originally Posted by 16ACE27

What "review" was that. Triton was the 6.8 L V-10, the 7.3 L V-8 is indeed the "Godzilla" engine.

Well aware of the different engines... I have the V-10 Triton (2020 model cutaway) which was replaced by the 7.3 liter V-8 "Godzilla" for the 2021 model.

This was a current Matt's RV reviews YouTube video. Sometimes attention to detail is missing in these reviews... quite possibly the case here.

The very odd thing shown in the video was that this Windsport (on an F53 chassis) was clearly missing the classic V-8 logo badge on the front quarter panel - which is ALWAYS there for the Godzilla engine motorhomes.

Another oddity was a 4k Onan generator on a 50amp MH ?? Are supply chain issues catching up with Ford AND Thor?

[Chance]

Originally Posted by Chateau_Nomad

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Another oddity was a 4k Onan generator on a 50amp MH ?? Are supply chain issues catching up with Ford AND Thor?

It’s not quite as odd any more. Initially some manufacturers started offering two high-efficiency air conditioners powered by 30-Amp electrical service along with 4,000-Watt generator, but then some manufacturers upgraded to 50-Amp service which probably doesn’t add that much cost. Using 4 kW generator in lieu of 5.5 kW Onan should save on initial cost, weight, and also be more fuel efficient at lower power needs. My son’s motorhome is like that.


P.S. — As far as I know, Triton is used to designate a member of the Ford modular engine family. That includes 4.6L V8, 5.4L V8, and 6.8L V10. These are all OHC engines. The 7.3L Godzilla is a pushrod engine. Calling it a Triton is probably just a mistake.

[RACarvalho]

Originally Posted by Chance

It’s not quite as odd any more.

Two ACs and 30 amp service:
My MH have the 5500 Onan generator and 50amp service with two ACs.
This past week I was in a campground with 30amp service only and I was running only one AC for, It was my understanding, I thought you needed 50amp to run two ACs.
Since temperatures where reaching top 90s, I decided to run an "experiment" and turn on the second AC and.... it worked!
I didn't have anything else heavy on electricity on (like electric water heater and microwave) but it worked...
I calculated that two ACs should require ~24A so 30A is close but still ok...
Does that mean I have two 11K BTU ACs?

As for Matt review on the windsport, Matt got confused because that windsport, like my Hurricane, didn't come with a "V8" badge on the side but it is a F53 with a "Godzilla" V8...

[Jimbo56]

Originally Posted by RACarvalho

Two ACs and 30 amp service:
My MH have the 5500 Onan generator and 50amp service with two ACs.
This past week I was in a campground with 30amp service only and I was running only one AC for, It was my understanding, I thought you needed 50amp to run two ACs.
Since temperatures where reaching top 90s, I decided to run an "experiment" and turn on the second AC and.... it worked!
I didn't have anything else heavy on electricity on (like electric water heater and microwave) but it worked...
I calculated that two ACs should require ~24A so 30A is close but still ok...
Does that mean I have two 11K BTU ACs?

As for Matt review on the windsport, Matt got confused because that windsport, like my Hurricane, didn't come with a "V8" badge on the side but it is a F53 with a "Godzilla" V8...

My Coleman 13.5 btu Mach 3 runs at 13.3 amps. But I think it’s the startup of the compressor that pulls up to 17. What make and model are your 2 AC units?

[Chance]

Originally Posted by RACarvalho

Two ACs and 30 amp service:
My MH have the 5500 Onan generator and 50amp service with two ACs.
This past week I was in a campground with 30amp service only and I was running only one AC for, It was my understanding, I thought you needed 50amp to run two ACs.
Since temperatures where reaching top 90s, I decided to run an "experiment" and turn on the second AC and.... it worked!
I didn't have anything else heavy on electricity on (like electric water heater and microwave) but it worked...
I calculated that two ACs should require ~24A so 30A is close but still ok...
Does that mean I have two 11K BTU ACs?

As for Matt review on the windsport, Matt got confused because that windsport, like my Hurricane, didn't come with a "V8" badge on the side but it is a F53 with a "Godzilla" V8...

If you have a large motorhome with 50-Amp service “and” 5,500-Watt Onan, I would bet your air conditioners are larger than the 11,000 Power Savers. There would have been little reason to install lower-capacity air conditioners under those conditions since cost is about the same, maybe even higher.

I’ll have to look at specs, but recall newest 13,500 Power Saver use very little more power than the 11,000. Coleman has a quiet model that offers soft start option, so that would make starting with 4 kW generator easier. Generator is limited to 30 Amp by breaker (if I recall correctly) but can do more for a few seconds since that’s only 3,600 Watts. Power ratings also have to be adjusted for temperature and elevation.

As long as everything else is kept off as you did, a 4 kW Onan should be able to power two A/Cs. Motorhomes designed that way from onset can have automatic load shedding so one A/C shuts off for a few minutes if owner turns on microwave, as an example.

[16ACE27]

I can run both my 15K and 13.5 K A/C units on 30 amps with minimum charging and nothing else electric on. I'll switch the fridge to gas for "buffer" room.

I've only needed to do it to cool down the MH when first setting up at camp with a 30 amp only pole, then I turn off the 13.5 K A/C.

With a standard 50/30/20 amp pole the 13.5 A/C is on a separate line to the 20 amp outlet.

[The Gritz Carlton]

The standards are out the window with today's builds. Supply shortages probably lead them to using 2 11K's instead of what used to be standard for a given model. 30A will run two 11K's but not much more.

[RACarvalho]

Originally Posted by Jimbo56

What make and model are your 2 AC units?

If I remember right, they are Coleman 13.5k.

[Chance]

Originally Posted by The Gritz Carlton

The standards are out the window with today's builds. Supply shortages probably lead them to using 2 11K's instead of what used to be standard for a given model. 30A will run two 11K's but not much more.

Cooling capacity itself means very little because the energy efficiency of air conditioners in general can vary tremendously. RV air conditioners are no exception. Some require much less power than others. Still, compared to residential units, even the best could improve significantly.

Below are Coleman ratings for Power Savers and also quiet series. As can be seen, 2 efficient units can operate well under 30 Amps. At 80% of that, it represents 12 Amps per unit. And as efficiency goes, that is an EER of 10 or lower, so nothing to write home about.

Imagine if they got EER up in 15 range like residential or window air conditioners which would only be +/- 1,000 Watts for a 15,000 BTU/hr air conditioner.

Just saying we can’t go by cooling capacity alone as they make efficiency improvements.
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[happy]

I believe the Godzilla name came from Ford's internal naming of the engine when it is under development. It's code name.
Our Bronco has the "Nano" engine , the 2.7 Eco Boost..

[Chateau_Nomad]

Still... nothing conclusive about the "Ford 7.3 liter Triton V-8" engine.

Here's an example of what I find in searching, but NO explanation about differences between the Godzilla and Triton V-8 of the same displacement. A detuned version? Is it something new? Misprint? I can't find any official Ford documentation about it... everything either leads to the retired Triton V-10 OR the newer Godzilla V-8.

Note the reference in this ad:
https://rvs.autotrader.com/rvs/2022/...nder/300373218

[EA37TS]

The V8 Triton was a 5.4L which Ford quit producing around 2006. It was used in the F150, Expedition and a few other vehicles.

Using Triton today has to be a misprint.

[Chateau_Nomad]

Originally Posted by EA37TS

The V8 Triton was a 5.4L which Ford quit producing around 2006. It was used in the F150, Expedition and a few other vehicles.

Using Triton today has to be a misprint.

I agree... I think it's just a mis-print on the "misinformation highway".

[Sappy2]

Ford official name is: 7.3L 2-Valve V8 Gas Engine. The "nick name" came out of engineering and the dyno lab since the engine is such a large displacement. They always nick name these pre production projects and sometimes it sticks in the market place slang.

[ducksface]

Chev big block rat
Chev small block mouse
Chrysler hemi elephant
383 Chrysler pet rock
5.0 coyote
Chef porcupine
Chev 305 sad
Chev401 sadder

I'm not getting the caring.

As a person who owns an 8.1L vehicle, I find the godzilla name to be a bit
Boy racer.
Self indulgent racing stripe.
Short guy syndrome.

[happy]

What did you put the Coyote into?
A Hellaphant would be good in an Axis!

[16ACE27]

Originally Posted by happy

I believe the Godzilla name came from Ford's internal naming of the engine when it is under development. It's code name.
Our Bronco has the "Nano" engine , the 2.7 Eco Boost..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8qfZ4c9zx5I