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Old 01-13-2021, 03:14 AM   #81
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GM apparently started new company to build electric delivery-size vans, and other commercial vehicles. Just saw news, and donít know if itís been discussed already.

The vanís size at 600 cubic feet would make a great compact motorhome a little larger than a standard van, yet still shaped like a small Class A.

It appears low so should be very stable and more energy efficient at highway speeds. I like that itís based on a 4-wheel design making it more ďautomotiveĒ. Maximum reported range seems better than Ford electric Transit van, although thereís no information to compare cost, battery size, or payload.


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Yeah; hasn't been discussed on here yet but I've already seen about a half dozen articles about it (all seem to be regurgitating GM's press release about it).

The cool thing is, if the graphic is what the vehicle will look like, its already got a Class A front sort of
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Old 01-13-2021, 01:02 PM   #82
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I wonder what would have developed; if GM had stuck to it?

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Old 01-13-2021, 01:29 PM   #83
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I wonder what would have developed; if GM had stuck to it?

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Oh they would have been way ahead of everyone else but alas.. (It could also be argued that battery tech wasn't "there" back then but had GM continued development of EVs battery tech research would have got a kickstart earlier and we'd be further along now; and, likely, there'd be no Tesla, or Rivian, or ....)
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Old 01-13-2021, 01:37 PM   #84
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...It could also be argued that battery tech wasn't "there"...
I thought that's why they hired all of those engineers out of college...
They looked at the bottom line, and got cold feet.
We saw the EV-1 back in 1997. GM had a great display of it at Walt Disney World.
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Old 01-13-2021, 02:00 PM   #85
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I thought that's why they hired all of those engineers out of college...
They looked at the bottom line, and got cold feet.
We saw the EV-1 back in 1997. GM had a great display of it at Walt Disney World.
Right but it was killed from the top.
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Imagine what all that extra power system development time could have brought us...
Your Bolt might have had a 1000 mile range...
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Yeah; hasn't been discussed on here yet but I've already seen about a half dozen articles about it (all seem to be regurgitating GM's press release about it).

The cool thing is, if the graphic is what the vehicle will look like, its already got a Class A front sort of

To me it looks similar in size to compact Class As common in Europe, Asia, and Australia, although itís difficult to tell just how wide it is from a picture. It probably is wider than a standard single-rear-wheel van like Mercedes Sprinter or Ford Transit (which are 80 inches wide) because it has marker lights front and rear. Iíd guess it ďmayĒ be 7-feet wide since thatís a common width for walk-in vehicles of this type.

Itís obviously only a prototype, yet itís fun evaluating pictures which reveal design details. To me the van looks like it has 16-inch tires, so probably limited to around 10,000 pound GVWR. Could be higher if new tires with higher load rating are manufactured (itís about time they do).

The rear view shows load floor should be around 24 inches high. That would make a motorhome about 9-feet tall possible, and under 10 feet likely.

Looking at closeup of rear I canít see a normal truck differential, so itís either FWD or more likely uses a more advanced rear suspension. I expect it should be independent on all four corners.

Closeup of rear also shows GM designed a slight fairing into rear cap; likely to reduce aerodynamic drag somewhat ó although still a box for the most part.

If it could do 170 miles at moderate highway speeds, and charge 170 MPH, it would have some potential as a camper.

Personally, for the time being Iíd prefer Thor build a baby Axis about that size; built on gasoline E-Series.
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GM website has some general specs on size. Itís really too bad no US auto manufacturer builds a regular van in this size range because it would make a very spacious Class B (relative to van campers). Dimensional proportions appear very well thought out.

Itís 24 feet long, 85 inches wide, 107 inches tall, and just over 600 cubic feet of cargo volume.

The electric is AWD and available just under 10,000 pounds GVWR. Payload is mentioned at 2,200 pounds which sounds pretty weak compared to gas vans. Must have about 200 kWh of batteries which adds a lot of weight.
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Old 01-14-2021, 07:53 PM   #89
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Maybe: https://www.macheforum.com/site/thre...the-year.2746/

As a side note: The forum software there is a lot nicer than here LOL.
We never did get that updated look and feel at the end of last year, but I digress.
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Old 01-16-2021, 11:49 PM   #90
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I just saw a story about an electric motorcycle: the Sondors Metacycle.
80 mph top speed
80 mile range
$5,000
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