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Old 10-13-2019, 10:58 PM   #41
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What brand of DEF is best ? My Local Advanced Auto Parts has BlueDef . Does the Sprinter care what it eats ? Are the containers usually Date Coded so one can tell how old it is ?
I don't think that it matters too awful much...
As long as it's not something "home-brewed" after a beerfest weekend!
How old is "too old": for urea?

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Old 10-14-2019, 11:31 AM   #42
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Hey Bob, My neighbor down the street has horses. Thought about having them supply the product . You can lead a horse to water but can you make him Pee ?
My son has 2 diesels and is a trained mechanic and says it degrades and most people state the shelf life as 2 years.
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Old 10-14-2019, 12:24 PM   #43
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He knows way more about it than I do.
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Old 10-17-2019, 10:30 AM   #44
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I owned a MB v6 sprinter for 10 years and loved it. Living in a small community, finding someone to service it was the only issue I ever had. I would still own it, but I wanted a different floorplan. It got 22 mpg on flat rounds and 15 mpg in Rocky Mtn.
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Old 10-17-2019, 11:41 AM   #45
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At least my RV Dealership said that they can handle the normal oil change routines...
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Old 10-17-2019, 01:01 PM   #46
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I am on my 2nd Sprinter chassis motor home and love it. Put around 10,000 miles on it between mid April to the end of July. No issues. I have done several mods to make it more comfortable. It gets about 13 mpg while driving since I usually drive above 65 mph. In some of the areas we traveled through the speed limit was 80 and I drove it at 78 mph with no problem up and down grades. I currently have a 2018 Thor Siesta 24SS.
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Old 10-17-2019, 01:07 PM   #47
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I wonder when the new 4500 series Sprinters will start hitting the streets?
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Old 10-17-2019, 09:03 PM   #48
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interesting... I picked up a 2 1/2 gal box of BlueDef today at Advance Auto Parts. and noticed there was no date code stamp anywhere on the box, also checked each box they had. I thought is Peak no longer providing the date code ? I called Peak and ask why no code, the Peak Tech person said Don't even think about using that..Take it back to Advance and tell them they need to send in a quality control report.. Then went down the street to O'Reilly Auto parts and their Peak BlueDef had the date stamp.. Now Advance Autos stack of it may have been fine, could be the printer on the production line ran out of ink and didn't print the date on all those boxes..
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Old 10-17-2019, 09:57 PM   #49
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Thanks for this info!
Time to check the container...
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Old 10-21-2019, 09:09 PM   #50
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Get a scan gauge. It helps keep you in the sweet spot for better fuel economy
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Old 10-22-2019, 11:25 AM   #51
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The gauge is next on my list. Picked up the Navion last week, runs and drives great. Previous owner had MB service oil and filters 5k ago so now I can concentrate on a few coach details,like finding a air filter for a Onan RV QD3200 diesel generator. I guess this makes me a s.o.b now.. Thanks everyone for the MB info.
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Old 10-22-2019, 11:53 AM   #52
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From one S.O.B. to another...
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Old 10-27-2019, 03:52 AM   #53
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For the first service A, I took it to the local Freightliner Dealer who services Freightliner Sprinters. (Freightliner is owned by a US subsidiary of Daimler-Benz). Cost $573, because they actually did service B. I asked for a quote from the nearby MB dealer and it was around $800. Posh neighborhood.

I shopped around and found that I could order the fuel filter, oil filter, air filter on Amazon. Also, need a 84mm filter wrench and a 16-quart catch pan. While MB recommends Mobil 1 ESP oil, I found that the following oils all meet MB's required 229.31 and 229.51 specs.
  • Castrol EDGE Full Synthetic Motor Oil, European Diesel, 5w30
  • Mobil 1 ESP 0w-30, 5w-30
  • Valvoline Advanced Full Synthetic MST 5w-30, 5w-40 (formerly SYNPOWER)
The whole oil change was easier than our Lexus or Honda. Oil pan is easy to access from the front. (change the copper washer). Oil filter is up top, you just have to take the air filter housing loose, which by the way is how you access the fuel filter under it. Found some YouTube videos that showed how to do everything, including how to reset the service mileage counter.

Total job cost was was way less that MB dealer or Freightliner.
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Old 10-27-2019, 09:04 AM   #54
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Maybe be less money but unless your out of warranty wouldn’t recommend it. Also, they do a lot more than you’ll do including diagnostics, recalls, notices, and software upgrades.
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Old 10-27-2019, 02:05 PM   #55
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I agree: you get what you pay for...
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Old 10-27-2019, 02:44 PM   #56
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🤷*♂️ Foolish to DYI while it’s under warranty. If it’s not and you got the talent go for it. You can occasionally have them check recalls/software for cheap.
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Old 10-28-2019, 06:15 PM   #57
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2015 chassis- now at 49,000 miles-- 20,000 mile service intervals. Oil change is easy. I DIY engine oil and filter at 10,000, and to dealer for complete Service A or B incl oil & filters at 20,000 mile interval. Always dealer for fuel filter. (fuel return line fragile and $$$)
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Old 10-29-2019, 01:48 AM   #58
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Service A for the MB sprinter at least the newer models is only after 20,000 miles. It runs about $250.00 at my local MB dealership. Service B has been quoted at about $700.00 which is after 40,000 miles and includes the Service A items plus a valve adjustment, fuel filter and air filter. I have a local Ford Dealership that services motor homes and they are cheaper for the services once I get out of warranty from Mercedes Benz. It does look easy to just change the oil but while under warranty I will have the dealership complete them. Just a bit of peace of mind.

Just my opinion. On my 2nd Mercedes Benz Sprinter Chassis motor home.
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Old 10-29-2019, 12:16 PM   #59
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Oil

Everyone I talked to says 10000 miles or one year. One shop says 7500 miles. I can't see 20000 miles on a oil change even if it's 13.5 quarts but that's just me. We love our Sprinter even though we had some quality issues with the coach.
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Old 11-01-2019, 10:32 PM   #60
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We have a 2017 Gemini 24 TX, which is on the Sprinter 3500 chassis. Have had it for coming up on three years. Mercedes did a good job designing the Sprinter, I regularly get 18MPG and even once topped 20MPG, but that particular trip speeds never exceeded 55MPH. where usually I run it 65 to 75MPH. Mine is set up to tow, and I have, but since my prior RV was a 41 foot Bus, I am not very comfortable towing with this one. If you do tow, watch your combined weight, its really easy to go over the limit, which makes you really unsafe. I have done lots of adds to mine, like an HWH leveling system, second air conditioner, and many more, so my weight is somewhat higher than Thor says it is, again another reason not to tow. I just do not feel its heavy or robust enough to manage steep downhills, with a car attached to it, even with the US Gear braking system I have. If you decide to go for something on the Sprinter chassis, look for one that has the DEF gauge. Mine does, but Mercedes says some do and some do not, for reasons that the dealer does not know. Its pretty useful to be able to monitor DEF levels from the dash, while you are driving. Avoids that surprise when you suddenly discover you are out, and have none on board to add.
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