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12-17-2022, 12:49 AM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Vegas 25.6
State: New Mexico
Posts: 5,127
THOR #20220
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Originally Posted by 16ACE27
Sure way to burn out your alternator. 1500 watts at 13 VDC is 115 DC amps on top of normal alternator loads.
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Thx good to know.
Maybe low setting 750 watts?
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12-17-2022, 01:09 AM
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#22
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: ACE 30.3
State: Iowa
Posts: 1,226
THOR #28145
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Originally Posted by The Gritz Carlton
Before this post becomes a typical cat-fight of know-it-all opinions...Post #2 and #3 are your best, most direct answers. 65 MPH drafts on a flame are not good and the furnace will burn through propane faster than the engine will burn through fuel. Save the propane for camping. Some have installed blanket type barriers hanging just behind the forward seats to keep the chassis heat all up front. Other run generators and electric heaters but you risk the possibility of them getting tipped over. While they have safety "tip switches" on them, they will still lay over at high temps...enough to ruin your floor or whatever else it tips onto.
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So, what you are saying "Ask not the elves for advice, because they will tell you both 'yes' and 'no'." - J.R.R. Tolkien
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2018 Thor ACE 30.3
Towing 2020 Jeep Gladiator
Former 1996 28' Tiffin Allegro owner
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12-17-2022, 01:21 AM
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Senior Member
Brand: Still Looking
Model: Sunstar 29VE Winnebago
State: Texas
Posts: 5,650
THOR #13058
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JimOIB
On average it takes a gallon of water 4 hours to freeze at 32F. That’s in a freezer with no movement. You’ll probably have more volume than that in your tanks and the volume is in motion. The risk of freezing a holding tank while driving is fairly low in those conditions. If in doubt then add some anti-freeze to the tanks.
I personally would not risk running the propane or an electric heater while driving.
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Reminds me of my pool, assuming I have electricity, it will never freeze because the Freeze-Protect kicks in and the surface tension of the moving water prevent it from freezing. The pool has gone overnight with 2 degrees or lower with no heat. In fact, per Heater Mfg, they say to not run the heater during freezing temperatures.
The OP is worried about his holding tanks, but others seem to want more heat in the coach? I honestly can't recall ever feeling like the coach was to cold while driving? I carry a 1500 watt heater, but I only use when camping and I have shore power. Actually I have used it with Generator, but only when exercising to pull a load.
But at the end of the day, I agree with your statement and it should at least be the goal; short a life threatening blizzard.
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12-17-2022, 01:24 AM
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Senior Member
Brand: Still Looking
Model: Sunstar 29VE Winnebago
State: Texas
Posts: 5,650
THOR #13058
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Originally Posted by Scubawise
Thx good to know.
Maybe low setting 750 watts?
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May I suggest the Woodford Reserve as an alternative
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12-21-2022, 10:58 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Vegas 24.1
State: Washington
Posts: 179
THOR #10717
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On my stock 2018 thor vegas 24.1 i added additional heating pads to the holding tank because the two stock ones were inadequate for camping below 20F (i had partially frozen black and grey tanks). Running the heat inside the coach will not make a difference as heat rises, so they would not help keep your holding tanks warmer if they are mounted outside/below your floor.
As per the other questions on driving with propane on for furnace and refridgerator- i have done that a lot many times- never an issue. I do turn off the propane when refilling my gas tank. I have run with a small 750W space heater running off the generator some times and also just running off my 2000W inverter. I can not run much more power draw than that off the inverter because it will draw too much power and trip the relay (100 Amp) to the batteries.
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12-22-2022, 12:36 AM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: ACE 30.3
State: Iowa
Posts: 1,226
THOR #28145
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gte534j
On my stock 2018 thor vegas 24.1 i added additional heating pads to the holding tank because the two stock ones were inadequate for camping below 20F (i had partially frozen black and grey tanks). Running the heat inside the coach will not make a difference as heat rises, so they would not help keep your holding tanks warmer if they are mounted outside/below your floor.
As per the other questions on driving with propane on for furnace and refridgerator- i have done that a lot many times- never an issue. I do turn off the propane when refilling my gas tank. I have run with a small 750W space heater running off the generator some times and also just running off my 2000W inverter. I can not run much more power draw than that off the inverter because it will draw too much power and trip the relay (100 Amp) to the batteries.
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Actually, on My ACE 30.3 the bay under the low end of the Fresh water tank is heated. I have checked and the temperature is about the same or a little higher than the temperature inside the coach.
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2018 Thor ACE 30.3
Towing 2020 Jeep Gladiator
Former 1996 28' Tiffin Allegro owner
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12-22-2022, 01:33 AM
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#27
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Senior Member
Brand: Still Looking
Model: Sunstar 29VE Winnebago
State: Texas
Posts: 5,650
THOR #13058
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Originally Posted by Dan-sr@perra-us.net
Actually, on My ACE 30.3 the bay under the low end of the Fresh water tank is heated. I have checked and the temperature is about the same or a little higher than the temperature inside the coach.
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I have temp sensors in my wet bay and a opposite side lower compartment, it runs about 10 degrees warmer ( when very cold) than outside temperature when the coach is sitting still with every thing off.
I don't have any heating pads, but if I turn on my furnace which is ducted through the floor it also warms all of the holding tank. But thus far I have yet to need to run furnace just to warm the tanks. Rather just keeping the Coach inside temperature above freezing should be adequate. Think of the plumbing for a outdoor water faucet that may run inside a garage wall. It can be freezing outside but the temp inside the garage aided by ambient temperature of the heat from inside the house is enough to keep the pipes in the wall from freezing.
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12-22-2022, 12:21 PM
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#28
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: compass 23tw
State: Texas
Posts: 169
THOR #19878
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We have a heat pump hvac unit, we would probably use it.
Any thoughts?
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12-22-2022, 12:44 PM
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#29
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Tuscany 42GX
State: Missouri
Posts: 1,158
THOR #9178
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Quote:
Originally Posted by roadrunner255
We have a heat pump hvac unit, we would probably use it.
Any thoughts?
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If temperatures are above freezing, sure
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12-22-2022, 01:01 PM
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#30
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Freedom Traveller A27
State: North Carolina
Posts: 2,447
THOR #17765
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If it’s 10 degrees or 32 degrees, I’m more than likely sitting at home in front of the fireplace reading this forum! Not out cruising in the MH.
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12-22-2022, 05:06 PM
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#31
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Senior Member
Brand: Redwood
Model: 36FB
State: Arizona
Posts: 1,766
THOR #3610
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Quote:
Originally Posted by roadrunner255
We have a heat pump hvac unit, we would probably use it.
Any thoughts?
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Any temp below about 40F the heat pump will begin to blow cold air.
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12-22-2022, 09:09 PM
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#32
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Tuscany 42GX
State: Missouri
Posts: 1,158
THOR #9178
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All three of my heat pumps will still put out noticeably warm air down to around 30 degrees. From comments many apparently are challenged at warmer temperatures than freezing
Since they don't typically have defrost coils if it is humid then you might as well switch over earlier as they will freeze up
they are AirXcel and there is a difference for sure. The inverter unit at the house works well down to around zero but totally different than RV heat pumps
The best way to verify where they fail to produce heat is by checking the outlet temperature
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