Yep, they need to be tight. I found the shades/blinds in both our Axis and now Vegas to be pretty crap compared to other RV's we've had. Why don't Thor fit the 2 stage shades that have a day shade and a night time blackout ?? I've removed the bedroom shades and installed blackout roller blinds in our Vegas, sunrise here in N Ireland is at 4:00 am in July, no fun..... It was an easy job and means the bedroom can be dark in bright daylight.