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04-12-2023, 11:10 PM
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Junior Member
Brand: Still Looking
State: California
Posts: 4
THOR #29426
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Thor ACE 29D UVW?
Hi gang,
Very interested in a ACE 29D.
I see GVWR and GCWR of 18k and 23k lbs respectively, these numbers are easy to find and I understand what they mean.
I've heard from a dealer the CCC of the 29D is 2,032 lbs.
Does this mean UVW = 15,968?
My suspicion is that all models in the ACE line have the same 2,032 CCC tag, and there has to be a meaningful UVW difference from the shortest 29d to the biggest 32B...
So I'm thinking the UVW of the 29D is less than 15,968?
TIA,
Dan
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04-13-2023, 12:15 AM
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Site Team
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: ACE 27.1
State: Florida
Posts: 14,326
THOR #7035
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"My suspicion is that all models in the ACE line have the same 2,032 CCC tag,"
No, all models on the same chassis have the same GVWR and GCWR.
Different models with different floor plans will have different UVW and consequently different Occupant and Cargo Carrying Capacity (OCCC) which is the value equal to the GVWR minus UVW and LP. In other words, OCCC is how much weight in occupants, cargo, water and trailer tongue weight that can be added to the Motorhome without exceeding the GVWR.
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2016 ACE 27.1
2016 Chevy Sonic Toad - Selling
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04-13-2023, 03:01 AM
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Junior Member
Brand: Still Looking
State: California
Posts: 4
THOR #29426
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 16ACE27
"My suspicion is that all models in the ACE line have the same 2,032 CCC tag,"
No, all models on the same chassis have the same GVWR and GCWR.
Different models with different floor plans will have different UVW and consequently different Occupant and Cargo Carrying Capacity (OCCC) which is the value equal to the GVWR minus UVW and LP. In other words, OCCC is how much weight in occupants, cargo, water and trailer tongue weight that can be added to the Motorhome without exceeding the GVWR.
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Thanks for your reply.
I probably should've left out my conjecture about OCCC across the line since it wasn't really my point.
Question remains: Whats the UVW / dry weight of an ACE 29D?
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04-13-2023, 03:13 AM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: 2018 24.1 AXISSIXxSIX
State: Arizona
Posts: 6,887
THOR #13932
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Why?
Is there a bridge weight limit near you?
I can't find a reason to care what mine weighs. I only care what it can carry.
Is there a taxed weight class where you live?
29d weight is immediately available on Google.
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04-13-2023, 03:35 AM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Hurricane 31S
State: Texas
Posts: 4,174
THOR #6411
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 351w90dan
Hi gang,
Very interested in a ACE 29D.
I see GVWR and GCWR of 18k and 23k lbs respectively, these numbers are easy to find and I understand what they mean.
I've heard from a dealer the CCC of the 29D is 2,032 lbs.
Does this mean UVW = 15,968?
My suspicion is that all models in the ACE line have the same 2,032 CCC tag, and there has to be a meaningful UVW difference from the shortest 29d to the biggest 32B...
So I'm thinking the UVW of the 29D is less than 15,968?
TIA,
Dan
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Each plant 750 coach is weighed at the QC station and the screen door tag printed at that station and placed on the inside of the screen door. Here is mine for a 31 foot coach on an 18,000 lb chassis. Note the VIN is also on the door tag. This tag and the tire pressure tag are required by the DOT
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2016 Hurricane 31S
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04-13-2023, 03:56 AM
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Junior Member
Brand: Still Looking
State: California
Posts: 4
THOR #29426
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Beau388
Each plant 750 coach is weighed at the QC station and the screen door tag printed at that station and placed on the inside of the screen door. Here is mine for a 31 foot coach on an 18,000 lb chassis. Note the VIN is also on the door tag. This tag and the tire pressure tag are required by the DOT
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Yup I've seen that on the 29D, as stated the OCCC is 2,032.
I'd like to know dry weight. Perhaps that data isn't as easily available as I'd hoped.
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04-13-2023, 03:57 AM
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Junior Member
Brand: Still Looking
State: California
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THOR #29426
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ducksface
29d weight is immediately available on Google.
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I haven't found dry weight or UVW.
Even OCCC requires a bit of digging.
Agreed GVWR and GCWR are readily available but are not what my question is about.
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04-13-2023, 04:07 AM
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Site Team
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: ACE 27.1
State: Florida
Posts: 14,326
THOR #7035
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 351w90dan
I haven't found dry weight or UVW.
Even OCCC requires a bit of digging.
Agreed GVWR and GCWR are readily available but are not what my question is about.
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UVW is a fictional number. Did you see the relationship above between OCCC, LP. and GVWR? "Occupant and Cargo Carrying Capacity (OCCC) which is the value equal to the GVWR minus UVW and LP.".
You will never meet the conditions for UVW once you start using the RV so it's value is not needed. Just like shopping for Travel Trailers and looking at the UVW to determine if your vehicle can tow it - the trailer will NEVER be at UVW when in use.
What's important is the ACTUAL weight of your RV (from a scale) and how it compares to GVWR.
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Ted & Melinda
2016 ACE 27.1
2016 Chevy Sonic Toad - Selling
2020 Chevy Colorado Z71 Trail Runner Toad
2024 Chevrolet Trax 2RS - Soon 2B TOAD
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04-13-2023, 11:39 AM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Freedom Traveller A27
State: North Carolina
Posts: 2,438
THOR #17765
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 351w90dan
Yup I've seen that on the 29D, as stated the OCCC is 2,032.
I'd like to know dry weight. Perhaps that data isn't as easily available as I'd hoped.
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The Dry weight is the 15,968 number.
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