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Old 06-15-2015, 06:09 PM   #1
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Ladder for 27.1 overhead bunk

I've noticed on some (larger?) ACE's the coach comes with a ladder to get into the overhead bunk above the drives area and it has mounting brackets for the ladder to hook into. My 2015 27.1 doesn't have a ladder or brackets but the Windsport appears to have them.

It does appear the bunks are different but it's still a bunk requiring access.

Has anyone bought the ladder separately or bought a different ladder?
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Old 06-15-2015, 06:29 PM   #2
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I've noticed on some (larger?) ACE's the coach comes with a ladder to get into the overhead bunk above the drives area and it has mounting brackets for the ladder to hook into. My 2015 27.1 doesn't have a ladder or brackets but the Windsport appears to have them.

It does appear the bunks are different but it's still a bunk requiring access.

Has anyone bought the ladder separately or bought a different ladder?
Todd,

Have you by any chance called Thor and asked if by some stupid chance they forgot to install the ladder (overhead bunk installed on a Friday)? Maybe they can send you one free of charge.
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Old 06-15-2015, 06:36 PM   #3
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My ACE 29.3 did not come with a ladder. Appears not supplied by Thor. We bought a 66" ladder from Camping World and cut off a few inches.
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Old 06-15-2015, 07:18 PM   #4
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Thor says the ladder is NOT provided with the bunk in the ACE - but it is with the Windsport (and maybe others) due to them having a different bunk.

The impression I get is someone may have hurt themselves with the ladder on the ACE bunk. So, to protect themselves further Thor eliminated the ladder.

Thor can't help directly, but dealer should be able to order ladder. Or, go to Lowes and most likely save some $$$.
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Old 06-15-2015, 07:41 PM   #5
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Stromberg Carlson Products is a major manufacturer of RV bunk ladders.

Here is the link to their website:

RV Ladders :: Stromberg Carlson
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Old 06-15-2015, 08:19 PM   #6
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Thanks dstankov. I see CW has them too.
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Old 06-16-2015, 12:07 AM   #7
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When we purchased our 29.2 at Camping World in Alabama we asked about a ladder for the overhead bunk since it was clear that our (at that time 5 year old) grandson would be using the bunk most of the time. We were told there was no ladder and that the shelf area behind the dinette bench was to be used as a "step" to get up in the bunk.
We went inside and bought a ladder.
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Old 06-16-2015, 01:52 AM   #8
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Maybe they expect you to get a running start from the back, bounce off a mini trampoline and somersault right into bed :-)
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Old 06-19-2015, 01:01 AM   #9
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My dealer told me it should have one but it didn't (2015 27.1) So our sales person went and grabbed one. When we got home 200 miles later, I discoved it was 3 inches too short as it didn't touch the ground. I called the sales person but of course he didn't return my calls so I just ordered one off amazon for $65 or so.
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Old 06-19-2015, 01:26 AM   #10
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My dealer told me it should have one but it didn't (2015 27.1) So our sales person went and grabbed one. When we got home 200 miles later, I discoved it was 3 inches too short as it didn't touch the ground. I called the sales person but of course he didn't return my calls so I just ordered one off amazon for $65 or so.
When I looked at some pics of that model I noticed the overhead bunk did not have the brackets installed to hold the ladder to the bunk. This indicates to me that a ladder does not come with that particular model.
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Old 06-19-2015, 01:31 AM   #11
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Mine didn't have a ladder and I was informed that it does not come with one.. It's like buying a new car and being told that the gas cap is an option.. What else did you expect for $80,000.00??
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Old 06-19-2015, 02:17 AM   #12
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It's like buying a new car and being told that the gas cap is an option.
Don't know when you last bought a car but a lot of newer models no longer have a gas cap. My 2012 Ford Focus has no gas cap.
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Old 06-19-2015, 02:34 AM   #13
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Don't know when you last bought a car but a lot of newer models no longer have a gas cap. My 2012 Ford Focus has no gas cap.
I was trying to be funny, guess it didn't work.. our recently purchased Ford Explorer also has no gas cap.
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Old 06-19-2015, 02:54 AM   #14
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LOL All the latest Ford's have no gas cap. Its called "Easy Fuel":
http://www.motorcraftservice.com/vdi...asy%20Fuel.pdf
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Old 06-19-2015, 03:45 PM   #15
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I negotiated a bunk ladder from the dealer as part of the deal, when they stopped coming down on the price....
they gave me one that looks just like this, loose
Stromberg Carlson RV Bunk Ladder - Aluminum - Black - 60" Tall Stromberg Carlson Enclosed Trailer Parts LA-460B
I cut it down for better fit, and had to jurry rig the mounting clips a bit, but it turned out ok.
Sorry can't find a picture to share.

I find it a shocker that it's not factory standard.
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Old 06-19-2015, 04:29 PM   #16
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I negotiated a bunk ladder from the dealer as part of the deal, when they stopped coming down on the price....
they gave me one that looks just like this, loose
Stromberg Carlson RV Bunk Ladder - Aluminum - Black - 60" Tall Stromberg Carlson Enclosed Trailer Parts LA-460B
I cut it down for better fit, and had to jurry rig the mounting clips a bit, but it turned out ok.
Sorry can't find a picture to share.

I find it a shocker that it's not factory standard.
I wonder if it fits into this category. This is from page 75 of the digital version of the new (2014 edition) owner's manual.

Various Thor Motor Coach products are equipped with standard built-in elevated beds
or bed loft areas. These beds can be upwards of 4 to 5 feet above the floor level and are often enclosed on one, two, or three sides and sometimes even partially on a fourth side. Because there are so many potential users and different types of elevated bed designs, elevated beds are not equipped with bed rails.
We feel that you, as the customer, are best equipped to determine if a bed rail system is necessary or best for you based on your intended uses, the actual users of the elevated beds, and the comfort level of the users.

For those customers who would prefer using an elevated bed with a bed rail, there are numerous bed rail styles, heights, and designs available, even in the style of bumpers, which can be purchased at various retail locations and/or the internet.
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Old 06-19-2015, 05:13 PM   #17
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I wonder if it fits into this category. This is from page 75 of the digital version of the new (2014 edition) owner's manual.

Various Thor Motor Coach products are equipped with standard built-in elevated beds
or bed loft areas. These beds can be upwards of 4 to 5 feet above the floor level and are often enclosed on one, two, or three sides and sometimes even partially on a fourth side. Because there are so many potential users and different types of elevated bed designs, elevated beds are not equipped with bed rails.
We feel that you, as the customer, are best equipped to determine if a bed rail system is necessary or best for you based on your intended uses, the actual users of the elevated beds, and the comfort level of the users.

For those customers who would prefer using an elevated bed with a bed rail, there are numerous bed rail styles, heights, and designs available, even in the style of bumpers, which can be purchased at various retail locations and/or the internet.
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While we understand that this will lead to any number of jurry rigged and dangerous solutions, we couldn't really give a flip, and have no intention of adding value by offering any sort of properly engineered solution. Thank you for buying Thor. Enjoy!

This actually reminds me that along with the ladder we were disappointed that there were no provisions, not even at an optional cost, to install some sort of proper safety net or railing.

I actually spent quite a lot of time and effort, and found no commercial solutions readily available for a neat install, and sadly we still have no protection against falls.

In fact, our then three year old after having slept on the sofa on numerous trips, we allowed to sleep up there with her siblings, and we made a quite substantial "fence" out of extra pillows and cushions, but she still fell out in the middle of the night. I don't understand how, but I thank the Lord that she didn't get hurt, it must be at least 4ft to the floor!
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While we understand that this will lead to any number of jurry rigged and dangerous solutions, we couldn't really give a flip, and have no intention of adding value by offering any sort of properly engineered solution. Thank you for buying Thor. Enjoy!

This actually reminds me that along with the ladder we were disappointed that there were no provisions, not even at an optional cost, to install some sort of proper safety net or railing.

I actually spent quite a lot of time and effort, and found no commercial solutions readily available for a neat install, and sadly we still have no protection against falls.

In fact, our then three year old after having slept on the sofa on numerous trips, we allowed to sleep up there with her siblings, and we made a quite substantial "fence" out of extra pillows and cushions, but she still fell out in the middle of the night. I don't understand how, but I thank the Lord that she didn't get hurt, it must be at least 4ft to the floor!
What I find amazing is they do not even offer rails and ladders as an available option. I would also be interested in knowing if this was an across the board "solution" or for selected models only.

To me it stinks like a rotten vendor dispute and this was Thor's way out or work around.
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I can't really answer your question for sure
but I do know that when i was shopping around, other manufacturers included a net as a fall railing, and I'm pretty sure ladders too.
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I can't really answer your question for sure
but I do know that when i was shopping around, other manufacturers included a net as a fall railing, and I'm pretty sure ladders too.
The 2016 Challenger appears to still include a ladder so why not other models? My 2015 came with a ladder.
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