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Old 09-28-2022, 07:00 PM   #1
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New Axis 25.7

Not sure what to make of the new Axis 25.7 floor plan.

The need for a floor plan to haul large cargo has been obvious, and often discussed (mostly by me ), but I pictured it as a large Euro-style bike and or gear garage, not a mini-toy hauler ó assuming thatís what this is.

Thoughts? Anyone seen pictures showing that rear door? Looks like bed folds up like Coachmen Cross Trail, making room for large cargo like scooters, compact golf carts, etc....
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Old 09-28-2022, 07:33 PM   #2
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Pretty sure you're not putting a Jeep or SxS in that ;-)

54x80 isn't really much space.

My Beta 500RRS is 87" long from wheel to wheel. With bars turned it'd probably fit but muscling 300# motorcycle into a small space would be interesting.

I don't think they intend this to be a 'toy hauler'
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Pretty sure you're not putting a Jeep or SxS in that ;-)

54x80 isn't really much space.

My Beta 500RRS is 87" long from wheel to wheel. With bars turned it'd probably fit but muscling 300# motorcycle into a small space would be interesting.

I don't think they intend this to be a 'toy hauler'

Agree that itís probably not much space, though Iíd like to keep an open mind until I see pictures or a video showing how it is meant to be used.

I thought a modified 24.1 floor plan with elevated Twin/King beds could provide plenty of room for bikes and gear, but this 25.7 approach may have advantage of much taller headroom for cargo. The disadvantage is that larger cargo/gear may have to be offloaded at night in order to use the corner bed.

I could probably haul a couple of kayaks and bikes in that space, but bed may not be useable while sleeping in rest areas or other places where offloading is not practical. Still think an exterior garage makes more sense so bed(s) can be used independent of cargo.
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Old 09-28-2022, 09:11 PM   #4
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I would think the sofa converts to a bed, so maybe that's what you do when hauling kayaks/ham radio antennas or Llamas in the garage?

Hrm, Llamas/Alpacas.. maybe cram a couple of those in there.. do a little spinning/weaving on vacation. My wife would be 100% behind that idea!
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Old 09-29-2022, 03:21 AM   #5
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Thor now has video of 25.7, featuring cargo area:


https://youtu.be/ZEi3YpHdoS0



Thor also added Chateau 26X which is very similar floor plan but based on Class C. It has same type of cargo area.


https://youtu.be/VXJ0cFblzbw


Space seems adequate for small items but not as roomy for larger ones as I first expected. An exterior garage seems more useful and practical to me. There must not be a large market for motorhomes to haul small toys.
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Old 09-29-2022, 04:19 AM   #6
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Not sure what to make of the new Axis 25.7 floor plan.
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After seeing the video I think they missed by a couple of inches....
We have kayaks and bikes and I would not load these on that space but if the door was a lil wider I could load our motorcycle and not tow the car on some trips...

That would be appealing...

A small rig you can take your motorcycle with you and tow nothing...
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After seeing the video I think they missed by a couple of inches....
We have kayaks and bikes and I would not load these on that space but if the door was a lil wider I could load our motorcycle and not tow the car on some trips...

That would be appealing...

A small rig you can take your motorcycle with you and tow nothing...
Hitch carrier would work, but yeah.. inside storage for a motorcycle would be super nice.. A youth size dirt bike would probably fit, maybe 2...
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After seeing the video I think they missed by a couple of inches....
We have kayaks and bikes and I would not load these on that space but if the door was a lil wider I could load our motorcycle and not tow the car on some trips...

That would be appealing...

A small rig you can take your motorcycle with you and tow nothing...

Assuming there was enough space, how would you get any motorcycle safely up that high into motorhome? Picture I posted above shows floor about waist high, so it would take quite a long ramp, and probably wide too.

Light items that could be hand lifted into motorhome would be much easier to load, but every motorhome I have seen pictures of to haul motorcycles, even small ones, had the floor fairly low. While some people may be able to load a motorcycle into these Axis or Chateau, I expect the numbers are so low that that is not the market for this type of mini toy hauler.

I’m in agreement that traveling without a toad can be nice, but losing the main bed until toys are offloaded seems a deal breaker to me. When traveling cross country, I also would not want “stuff” like bikes and kayaks inside living space. Granted, people who drive short distance from home to destination, and then stay there for many days, may not mind offloading once there.
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Hitch carrier would work, but yeah.. inside storage for a motorcycle would be super nice.. A youth size dirt bike would probably fit, maybe 2...
I'm thinking more like my 600lbs beast...
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I’m in agreement that traveling without a toad can be nice, but losing the main bed until toys are offloaded seems a deal breaker to me. When traveling cross country, I also would not want “stuff” like bikes and kayaks inside living space. Granted, people who drive short distance from home to destination, and then stay there for many days, may not mind offloading once there.
We do Walmart overnights almost all trip we go out so I understand what you are saying about losing the bed but We would be willing to sleep in the pull out sofa/bed while on the road if we could take our bike in SOME trips instead of the car.

Each trip have a focus so if we are going to a new place that we want to explore, we want to have our car with us but if we are going to our beach place where we have being several times , the bike and no toad would be perfect...

Going to Gatlinburg w/o a toad and taking the Bike would be really nice.
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Old 09-29-2022, 03:26 PM   #11
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I'm thinking more like my 600lbs beast...
They make hitch carriers that claim to support that kinda weight, however the dancing around those things do with a 200# dirt bike would give me a heart attack!
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They make hitch carriers that claim to support that kinda weight, however the dancing around those things do with a 200# dirt bike would give me a heart attack!
I don;t know any gas powered MH that has a hitch rated for 600+ lbs and even if there was one, I would not put my bike there exactly for the reason you mention....
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Old 09-29-2022, 07:57 PM   #13
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That storage space is perfect for e-bikes, or mountain bikes.
I sure would hate to give up my king size bed though. (24.1)

Nice floorplan in my opinion.
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That storage space is perfect for e-bikes, or mountain bikes.
I sure would hate to give up my king size bed though. (24.1)

Nice floorplan in my opinion.

Just curious, would you sacrifice some bedroom headroom in your 24.1 in order to get a bike/motorcycle garage below? For me it would be a no brainer. Taking one or two steps up at night is no big deal if it meant that cargo could stay loaded at night, and that I would still have 100% use of bed(s); but I have to assume that Thor marketing research has concluded that most prospective buyers want lots of space above bed, or else donít value a garage enough to compromise.

In Europe garages are so very common, and here it is the very opposite; with a few exceptions like Winnebago EKKO.

Note low floor to ease loading. Details and good design does matter in my opinion.

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After seeing the video I think they missed by a couple of inches....
We have kayaks and bikes and I would not load these on that space but if the door was a lil wider I could load our motorcycle and not tow the car on some trips...

That would be appealing...

A small rig you can take your motorcycle with you and tow nothing...
I have a really nice dual motorcycle rack on the back of my Thor Axis that has a ramp for easy loading. I love it. We use it for our 2 electric e bikes that have fat tires and look like motorcycles. Made by Titan Ramps.
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Old 10-31-2022, 11:09 PM   #16
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For a new floor plan, not many units have been advertised for sale after a month. RV Trader only shows one Axis 25.7 out of over 100 new units. Not sure if dealers are not ordering this floor plan design, or if Thor is having problems or delays building them. The only unit I saw advertised was discounted significantly, so maybe there isnít as much demand as Thor anticipated?

Has anyone purchased or seen one in person yet?
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