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08-05-2020, 01:30 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: 2017 Axis 25.4
State: Arkansas
Posts: 2,669
THOR #12231
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New Floor Plan for Axis / Vegas
I opened up my new Motorhome Magazine on MON and they have a little article on the New Floor plan for the "Axis Model" (Im sure Vegas will do the same).
"Brand new Thor Axis 24.3 is a Murphy Bed Floor Plan".....7.3 L Gas engine.... "Less than 26 foot".....Mulitplex and Wi-Fi Technology...Drop down Bunk, Spacious dinette and large Rear Bathroom".
I checked Thor's site on MON but nothing showing yet for 24.3.
I really like the Murphy Beds in the smaller C's (B plus) models on the market so I think this will be a hit for Axis / Vegas lineup.
Cant wait to see one. Like to see how much storage it has outside.... thats a big selling point to me.
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2017 Axis / 25.4: Big Foot Levelers, Aims 1200 Watt inverter, Ceramic Window Tint, Full River AGM 6V batteries, Front Hellwig Sway bar / Rear Track Arm, Safe T Plus Steering Stabilizer, PD 4655 converter, Hard Wired Surge Guard, WEboost + WiFi Ranger, LED Headlights/Driving lights, TPMS, Surge tank, Tornado flush, Viair Compressor
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08-05-2020, 02:16 PM
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I Think We're Lost!
Brand: Still Looking
Model: Tiffin Wayfarer 24 BW
State: New York
Posts: 22,195
THOR #8860
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Just got my copy today, and now I'm going to have to start reading it sooner!
Thanks!
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Current coach: Tiffin Wayfarer 24 BW
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08-05-2020, 02:56 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: Still Looking
State: Texas
Posts: 6,187
THOR #2121
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Long & Winding road
I opened up my new Motorhome Magazine on MON and they have a little article on the New Floor plan for the "Axis Model" (Im sure Vegas will do the same).
"Brand new Thor Axis 24.3 is a Murphy Bed Floor Plan".....7.3 L Gas engine.... "Less than 26 foot".....Mulitplex and Wi-Fi Technology...Drop down Bunk, Spacious dinette and large Rear Bathroom".
I checked Thor's site on MON but nothing showing yet for 24.3.
I really like the Murphy Beds in the smaller C's (B plus) models on the market so I think this will be a hit for Axis / Vegas lineup.
Cant wait to see one. Like to see how much storage it has outside.... thats a big selling point to me.
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Is this a Murphy bed in a slide? If so (and I’d assume it is), is it one bed slide only or a semi-full-wall slide to include dinette also? Or two slides?
Really glad Thor finally went back to 24-ft models where it makes more sense (to me anyway). If you’re going to build a larger motorhome up to 28-feet, might as well go to F-53 chassis. But I’m not in marketing, so what do I know?
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08-05-2020, 03:04 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: '17-Vegas 24.1
State: California
Posts: 2,227
THOR #13362
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They will probably use the Delano 24fb floorplan.
This new Axis/Vegas will be shorter than the Delano because the cab sits over the engine vs class C engine out front.
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'17 Vegas 24.1
Fallbrook, CA
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08-05-2020, 03:19 PM
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Axis/Vegas Enthusiast
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Axis 24.4
State: Michigan
Posts: 9,837
THOR #1150
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Very interesting, was hoping a murphy bed option would make it to the axis/vegas models...
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08-05-2020, 03:23 PM
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I Think We're Lost!
Brand: Still Looking
Model: Tiffin Wayfarer 24 BW
State: New York
Posts: 22,195
THOR #8860
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Jamie,
Are you thinking about a trade?
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Current coach: Tiffin Wayfarer 24 BW
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08-05-2020, 03:50 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: Still Looking
State: Texas
Posts: 6,187
THOR #2121
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Quote:
Originally Posted by taylorbob1
They will probably use the Delano 24fb floorplan.
This new Axis/Vegas will be shorter than the Delano because the cab sits over the engine vs class C engine out front.
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That Delano floorplan is listed at 25’-8”, and if an Axis version ends up significantly shorter (say 25-feet or less), it will be very interesting to see what Thor does with wheelbase. The original 188” will likely be too long. They could try leaving WB at OEM 158” which would save on cost and make more maneuverable, but the longer rear overhang may be too long; particularly if holding tanks are located at very rear of unit.
Their other E-Series motorhomes in +/- 25-ft range (Class C) are built on shorter wheelbase, and that “may” look odd on an Axis Class A RUV.
I always thought that using Ford OEM 176” wheelbase would be ideal so they didn’t have to cut and stretch chassis in middle, but there must be something that keeps the longer OEM chassis from being used.
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08-05-2020, 04:04 PM
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I Think We're Lost!
Brand: Still Looking
Model: Tiffin Wayfarer 24 BW
State: New York
Posts: 22,195
THOR #8860
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... and if they remove the slide?
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Current coach: Tiffin Wayfarer 24 BW
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08-05-2020, 04:05 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: '17-Vegas 24.1
State: California
Posts: 2,227
THOR #13362
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Long & Winding road
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Can't wait to see one. Like to see how much storage it has outside.... that's a big selling point to me.
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Delano 24fb has just 34.8 cuft storage vs the 63.5 cuft in a Axis/Vegas 24.1
Although you will get more storage than a Delano because of the storage under the cab across the front. And, the fact that the whole unit sits higher on the frame which will give you more space.
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'17 Vegas 24.1
Fallbrook, CA
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08-05-2020, 05:03 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: Still Looking
State: Texas
Posts: 6,187
THOR #2121
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob Denman
... and if they remove the slide?
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They’d have a hell of a time fitting in a Murphy bed — unless it’s oriented lengthwise like on one B+ of another brand.
If they wanted a non-slide, copying one of many Hymer floorplans would be a great place to start. Or just make an optional “Touring” version of 24.1 with no slide and bike garage under twin beds (pretty much like a Hymer and 100s of European motorhomes). It doesn’t require reinventing the wheel, so it’s obvious that Thor marketing doesn’t see a need for one, or doesn’t want it for other reasons.
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08-05-2020, 05:07 PM
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I Think We're Lost!
Brand: Still Looking
Model: Tiffin Wayfarer 24 BW
State: New York
Posts: 22,195
THOR #8860
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Or strap a mattress to the roof, and offer an umbrella as a low-cost option.
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Good Sam Member 843599689
Current coach: Tiffin Wayfarer 24 BW
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08-05-2020, 05:12 PM
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Axis/Vegas Enthusiast
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Axis 24.4
State: Michigan
Posts: 9,837
THOR #1150
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob Denman
Jamie,
Are you thinking about a trade?
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LOL probably not but it will be nice to see something new for Axis/Vegas.
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08-05-2020, 05:13 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: '17-Vegas 24.1
State: California
Posts: 2,227
THOR #13362
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Chance
They’d have a hell of a time fitting in a Murphy bed — unless it’s oriented lengthwise like on one B+ of another brand.
If they wanted a non-slide, copying one of many Hymer floorplans would be a great place to start. Or just make an optional “Touring” version of 24.1 with no slide and bike garage under twin beds (pretty much like a Hymer and 100s of European motorhomes). It doesn’t require reinventing the wheel, so it’s obvious that Thor marketing doesn’t see a need for one, or doesn’t want it for other reasons.
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It's all about dollars and cents.
They already have the Delano floorplan set up in their system
So it's a simple and cost effective transition.
But your are spot-on regarding the wheelbase. 188" Axis/Vegas is too long.
Delano is on a 170" Mercedes wheelbase.
Four Winds/Chateau has E350/450 chassis in 168" and 176" wheel base
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'17 Vegas 24.1
Fallbrook, CA
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08-05-2020, 05:28 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Compass 23 TB
State: Ontario
Posts: 362
THOR #13224
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Looks to me like the 2020 Compass/Gemini 23 TW floorplan just a little longer.
Coveman2
2018 Thor Compass 23 TB
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08-05-2020, 05:38 PM
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I Think We're Lost!
Brand: Still Looking
Model: Tiffin Wayfarer 24 BW
State: New York
Posts: 22,195
THOR #8860
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JamieGeek
LOL probably not but it will be nice to see something new for Axis/Vegas.
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You've got to admit: "peeking over the fence", is always fun!
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Good Sam Member 843599689
Current coach: Tiffin Wayfarer 24 BW
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08-05-2020, 05:54 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Compass 23 TB
State: Ontario
Posts: 362
THOR #13224
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Hey Bob: Up here in Canada you can get arrested for peeping over anything , especially fences !!!!!!!!!
Coveman2
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08-05-2020, 06:11 PM
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I Think We're Lost!
Brand: Still Looking
Model: Tiffin Wayfarer 24 BW
State: New York
Posts: 22,195
THOR #8860
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Good Sam Member 843599689
Current coach: Tiffin Wayfarer 24 BW
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08-05-2020, 06:20 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: 2018 24.1 AXISSIXxSIX
State: Arizona
Posts: 6,925
THOR #13932
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I'd never look twice at a folding bed or a bed in a slide.
I can't think of anything more inconvenient in an rv.
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08-05-2020, 06:23 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: 2017 Axis 25.4
State: Arkansas
Posts: 2,669
THOR #12231
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Quote:
Originally Posted by taylorbob1
They will probably use the Delano 24fb floorplan.
This new Axis/Vegas will be shorter than the Delano because the cab sits over the engine vs class C engine out front.
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Yeah, I bet it looks just like this. It said "Less than 26 foot" so 25.8 foot soounds about right.
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2017 Axis / 25.4: Big Foot Levelers, Aims 1200 Watt inverter, Ceramic Window Tint, Full River AGM 6V batteries, Front Hellwig Sway bar / Rear Track Arm, Safe T Plus Steering Stabilizer, PD 4655 converter, Hard Wired Surge Guard, WEboost + WiFi Ranger, LED Headlights/Driving lights, TPMS, Surge tank, Tornado flush, Viair Compressor
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08-05-2020, 06:28 PM
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I Think We're Lost!
Brand: Still Looking
Model: Tiffin Wayfarer 24 BW
State: New York
Posts: 22,195
THOR #8860
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ducksface
I'd never look twice at a folding bed or a bed in a slide.
I can't think of anything more inconvenient in an rv.
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How about a busted toilet after the annual chili cook-off?
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