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Old 10-13-2019, 10:25 PM   #21
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The bellows probably won't be an issue, but when we were camping in early spring and it was cold and windy, I'd leave the slide out in to reduce the volume of the living space and put less strain on the furnace.
We almost never use our slide. It's one of the major reasons why we liked the 24.1, slide doesn't interfere with life.
I'll screw it shut and totally seal it and all it would amount to is a wall behind the drivers seat that keeps it from reclining and about a 70sqin of lost floor space on the far wall and a couch 7inches shorter than the maximum available if it never had a slide.
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Old 10-14-2019, 12:24 AM   #22
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Old 10-14-2019, 01:59 AM   #23
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We almost never use our slide. It's one of the major reasons why we liked the 24.1, slide doesn't interfere with life.
I'll screw it shut and totally seal it and all it would amount to is a wall behind the drivers seat that keeps it from reclining and about a 70sqin of lost floor space on the far wall and a couch 7inches shorter than the maximum available if it never had a slide.
Lucky you. I am longer than the bed by two or more inches and with the slide pulled in, I have to sleep diagonally in the bed. It's OK for a night now and then, but I wouldn't want a steady diet of that arrangement.
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Old 10-14-2019, 03:08 AM   #24
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If you don't wait for the water to runoff, the slide topper will not wind up correctly as the slide is retracted. At least that is the way it happens on our 2016 Tuscany 45AT.



We like to be plugged in for both slide extension and retraction. Otherwise you have to watch battery voltage. Less than 12.5 volts and the process slows down or stalls.



The 45AT has a huge slide on the passenger side. It really groans during extension/ retraction, even under the best of conditions.



Good luck!

I believe your Tuscany has hydraulics powering the slide rather than electric motors... so the same stop/start issues donít apply.
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Old 10-14-2019, 03:11 AM   #25
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You're right.
Absolutely pointless, and yet that tall tale of vacuum might scare some newb into opening their door in the rain, or high wind, to lesser the potential of a slide problem.

To put the math into a situation.
Go pickup a 4x8 sheet of plywood and stand into a 3mph wind.
Multiply 4x8 to the size of a slide side.
My little 24.1 slide is 78x78, 42sqft+ vs 32sqft for the plywood sheet.
The 3mph wind would push you down.

10,000 times the pressure of the bellows.

Bigger slide=exponential pressure yet same bellows due to same massive rv leaks.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.eng...ad-d_1775.html
Look at that chart and be astounded why a boat can be pushed by a 3mph wind. Lots of psi.
It doesnít work that way.

Besides, I donít know what numbers youíre reading, but a 4X8 sheet of plywood in a 3 MPH wind wouldnít push me over. Itís so low a force compared to weight it would be hard to feel.

And 10,000 times more? Where are you getting the ďbellowsĒ pressure from? Thatís not an easy pressure to calculate.

Actually, ďIFĒ an RV could be sealed tight, the pressure fluctuation due to a typical-size slide opening or closing would be far greater than created by a 3 MPH wind.
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Old 10-14-2019, 03:21 AM   #26
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It doesn’t work that way.

Besides, I don’t know what numbers you’re reading, but a 4X8 sheet of plywood in a 3 MPH wind wouldn’t push me over. It’s so low a force compared to weight it would be hard to feel.

And 10,000 times more? Where are you getting the “bellows” pressure from? That’s not an easy pressure to calculate.

Actually, “IF” an RV could be sealed tight, the pressure fluctuation due to a typical-size slide opening or closing would be far greater than created by a 3 MPH wind.
Stop.
I provided a table, you deny it.
I'll not argue over the vacuum created by a slide.
The idea was ludicrous at best.
It needed debunked so as to not be taken the slightest bit seriously.
We'll leave it at ludicrous.
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Old 10-14-2019, 01:15 PM   #27
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Stop.
I provided a table, you deny it.
I'll not argue over the vacuum created by a slide.
The idea was ludicrous at best.
It needed debunked so as to not be taken the slightest bit seriously.
We'll leave it at ludicrous.

I’m not denying anything. You’re just using the table wrong. Pressure from 3 MPH wind is next to zero. Attached is picture of your table. You’re probably using wrong units if I had to guess.

Regardless, what does 3 MPH wind have to do with anything.

When the inside volume of a “sealed” motorhome changes, there is a change in pressure. That’s a fact. The math is complicated but very real. Calculations are similar to what happens in an engine during compression stroke, except instead of a compression ratio of about 10:1 it’s very small, yet can be estimated accurately with the right training and skills. It’s not the kind of math most people are going to get from the internet, and if they do, probably won’t understand it and apply it correctly. Sorry, but it’s the truth.

If you want to debunk a myth using “MATH”, getting the math right is essential.


P.S. — I’m trying to help you whether you see it or not. If you disagree that’s fine, and can correct me and make your case with facts. Telling anyone to STOP isn’t much of a technical argument to support your case.
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Old 10-14-2019, 02:31 PM   #28
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Bellows effect

The effect of pressure variations on sealed vessels is an extremely complex engineering subject that is at the center of petrochemical plant design. Please refer to the attachment below. However, given the fact that a motor home is hardly a sealed vessel I can assure you that the forces acting on the slide motors, slide rails, etc. are more related to the weight of the slide, itís position during extension or retraction rather than pressure variations due to repositioning of the slide.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics...essure-vessels
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Old 10-14-2019, 02:44 PM   #29
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^^^True^^^ Sorta like trying to build up pressure inside a colander with a soda straw, huh?
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Old 10-14-2019, 04:30 PM   #30
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I have heard it said that you shouldn't put out a slide only part way and stop, then retract. I have also heard not to extend without being hooked up to electricity. I have done both of these in the past* with no immediate or apparent damage but a few months ago I had to replace one slide motor so wondering if these situations have anything to do with it. I have a 2014 27K Hurricane with a very long slide on one side from behind the entry door all the way to the back but only goes out about 2-3 feet. *I have 500W of solar charging my batteries when I was running the slide out and in.
The sensor control is probably in one of your compartments. Whatever you do, out part way or all the way etc, check it to make sure nothing is blinking an error. No blinking is what you're looking for. Same would go for any bed above the cab that goes up or down.....the sensor is probably in a compartment above the dash. The Thor "manual" has the error codes and what they mean.
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Old 10-23-2019, 08:09 PM   #31
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Slides not going in or out much...

Well...this seems to be our year...
Went to refract the drivers side slide and only came in a bit and one sides retracted more than the other. I've reset, the motor to no avail. Unplugged the motor and tried to move manually...nothing. Does anyone have any ideas?
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Old 10-23-2019, 08:32 PM   #32
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I think that you can access the motors on the sides of the slides, and disconnect them...
This will make it MUCH easier to push the slide back in.
But you have to remember to drop those motors back into place: they'll hold the slide closed for you.
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Old 10-23-2019, 08:43 PM   #33
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Well...this seems to be our year...
Went to refract the drivers side slide and only came in a bit and one sides retracted more than the other. I've reset, the motor to no avail. Unplugged the motor and tried to move manually...nothing. Does anyone have any ideas?
Thanks
As a just prior post asks - any error indicators (flashing light pattern) on the controller? Might help steer to a resolution.

My experience with unplugging the motor and pushing has been to have a lot of people... Bedroom slide took 4-5... Living room slide (not full wall) wasn't movable with double that. Disengaging motors may help - but unplug is supposed to be enough. As Bob said - be sure to reengage and plug back in - to hold slide in.
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Old 10-23-2019, 10:14 PM   #34
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There were no lights flashing. Unplugged the motors- wouldn't budge.
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Old 10-24-2019, 05:04 AM   #35
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Should you use silicone spray on the bottom of the metal rails on the slide out?
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Old 10-24-2019, 08:42 AM   #36
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[QUOTE=ducksface;206883]We almost never use our slide.



We thought like that too with our 28 footer; however as we've aged the 28 seemed to get smaller and smaller over time-one of the reasons we upgraded!
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Old 10-24-2019, 03:08 PM   #37
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We do this quite often to keep them running smooth.
Were full time so we use them all the time. Judging how tight it is right now if we didnt I'm not sure how long my hubby would live....��
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