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Old 10-09-2017, 12:28 AM   #1
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Spare tire/wheel

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I am thinking that adding a Spare Tire/wheel is a good idea for my new coach. It is built on a Ford E450 with Dual Rear Wheels (Dually).
Do most Class C Rv'ers run with no spare?
Is it the same Wheel/Tire for all 6 wheels on the E450?
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Old 10-09-2017, 12:43 AM   #2
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I have a Vegas of F-450 chassis. I carry a spare and stuff to do it with. Is a pain but since I mostly tow open car trailer, why not.

All wheels are same on mine. Spare tire is also same brand/model.
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Old 10-09-2017, 02:26 AM   #3
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All the wheels should be the same. I considered buying a spare until I thought about when the last time I had a flat. Had to be 20 years ago.
I do carry a jack and lug wrench should I have to move a front to the rear, or take a rear off, to limp in.
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Old 10-09-2017, 02:37 AM   #4
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All six are the same. I bought a spare for my 2017 for about $150. The hard part is finding a way to carry it. Ended up with an expensive hitch mount -go figure! I would not change it myself and donít carry the tools to do it. But Iím confident that roadside service will be a much better experience if I have my own good spare than it will if I have to get towed to a place and hope to buy one ďurgently ď.
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Old 10-09-2017, 02:58 AM   #5
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Ditto the spare. Bought a used rim (no bargain, same price as online, $75). I chose to buy an equivalent but cheaper tire, ~$100 and mounted to on a Curts spare carrier that's hitch mounted, ~$90. It's cheap insurance. What first drew me to the Axis/Vegas was the 16" rim instead of the 22"s. Assuming I get cell coverage for roadside repair, I already have the replacement.
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Old 10-09-2017, 05:16 PM   #6
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Ditto the spare. Bought a used rim (no bargain, same price as online, $75). I chose to buy an equivalent but cheaper tire, ~$100 and mounted to on a Curts spare carrier that's hitch mounted, ~$90. It's cheap insurance. What first drew me to the Axis/Vegas was the 16" rim instead of the 22"s. Assuming I get cell coverage for roadside repair, I already have the replacement.
I just have a Good Sam card, cell phone if it works, a generator, coffee pot, fridge loaded with beer. Something good always happens.
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Old 10-09-2017, 09:25 PM   #7
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I just have a Good Sam card, cell phone if it works, a generator, coffee pot, fridge loaded with beer. Something good always happens.
Roger that!
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Old 10-10-2017, 01:42 AM   #8
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This comes up every so often on this forum and others. You will find several owners finding comfort in having a spare, and plenty of others, like myself, who choose to go without.

Some believe the weight is unnecessary, and some say they wouldn't be comfortable with the jacking and trying to get the lugnuts off.

My personal flat tire experience was with our previous coach when the tires were about 5 years old (plenty of tread left). We had two blow outs before we replaced the rest of the tires. Those two times, road service had us back on the road in about 4 hours and the tires cost the same as everywhere else.

According to AAA, 30 million vehicles in the US have no spares. If we were taking our coach to remote areas, I would be more interested in taking along a spare.
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Old 10-13-2017, 02:29 PM   #9
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Since we bought 6 new tires during this trip, 4 for the Jeep, kept having flats; and 2 for the MH, side wall slit on one, we think a spare is a requirement. This is especially true since GS only pays to change a tire and we travel many places without cell service.
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Old 10-13-2017, 02:54 PM   #10
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I mounted a spare on my Freedom Elite 22FE. I figure, if I had a flat, had to call for help, they'd mount the spare instead of me waiting somewhere for a wheel and tire or repair. Used standard spare mount on rear bumper, which I cut the weak little 1/8" straps off and drilled holes through the square steel tubing to mount spare right up to the steel tubing instead of it hanging out there on those straps. I don't know how much the spare wheel and tire weigh, but I don't think an 1/8" steel strap hanging the spare out there another 4-5 inches is a good idea, besides looked like s--t. Now it's right up close to bumper. Was a hassle lifting that wheel up to the tubing myself, might have gotten a hernia doing it, dumb of me, very dumb. Get some help.
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Old 10-13-2017, 03:52 PM   #11
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I couldn't justify the space or weight of carrying one...
Good Sam card here also!

What kind of jack would need to be carried anyway??
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Old 10-13-2017, 03:59 PM   #12
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GS has an 'add on' that covers the cost of the replacement tire...
As long as the tread passes the 'Lincoln head penny test'. (and tread wear is typically not the issue with RV tires...)
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Old 10-14-2017, 06:18 PM   #13
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Just where were you travelling? Sounds like fun!
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Old 10-14-2017, 06:27 PM   #14
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"What kind of jack would need to be carried anyway??"
Bob, I carry a 20 ton bottle jack and an adapter for the axle like this: https://safejacks.com/collections/bottle-jack-accessories/products/axle-tube-pad-for-bottle-jack. Very little space and easily justified weight. Just being pro-active.
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Old 10-14-2017, 07:00 PM   #15
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Spare tire

I carry a spare tire (not mounted) and last year on a 5 week trip I did
have a front tire blow out (sidewall). Having the right size tire 19.5"
allowed us to have it changed and on our way. Nobody had the right
size tire so I had to call ahead to a Goodyear Truck tire shop and order
the correct tire, they remounted the new tire and sent the damaged one
back to Goodyear for the engineers to inspect. It only had 9000 miles
so eventually I got reimbursed for the cost of a new tire minus about
$25.

For me having the spare was worth the trouble. I've read a few stories
of people having to wait outside a tire shop for a couple of days to get
new tires shipped in.

On our trips we usually don't have that much time to wait since we are
not full timers.
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Old 10-14-2017, 07:52 PM   #16
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I couldn't justify the space or weight of carrying one...
Good Sam card here also!

What kind of jack would need to be carried anyway??
If your coach has leveling jacks, you can use that to get the wheel off the ground, and just put a jack stand under the frame for safety. I did that with our former 41 foot DP when a front tire had to be dismounted, and no one had a jack that could deal with it.
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Old 07-03-2018, 02:39 PM   #18
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Spare Tire and Jack

My 28A came with a spare but no Jack or Lug Wrench. I am going to purchase a Jack from Lowe's and I have a standard star lug wrench.My question would be is where do you place the Jack to change the tire? I don't think I would ever attempt to change the tire myself but would still like to know where the jacking points are in case the guy they send out to chance the tire doesn't know. Ya never know.
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Old 07-03-2018, 02:48 PM   #19
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I use a 12 ton hydraulic jack under the axle.
There really are no good frame jacking points and the weight would be an issue.
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My 28A came with a spare but no Jack or Lug Wrench. I am going to purchase a Jack from Lowe's and I have a standard star lug wrench.My question would be is where do you place the Jack to change the tire? I don't think I would ever attempt to change the tire myself but would still like to know where the jacking points are in case the guy they send out to chance the tire doesn't know. Ya never know.
You should find detail instructions on the Ford owners manual. If not, itís available on web.

Iím fairly certain your 28A is on an E-Series chassis like mine, except you have duallies and a 4-ton jack. My present one is only 2-tons if I recall correctly.

Anyway, on front I-Beams (part of Twin-I-Beam suspension), there is a peg-looking knob sticking out the front of each beam that the factory jack is designed to go under. At home Iíve used a hydraulic jack under beam, but I have to say that my factory mechanical jack with better support feels a lot safer to me. Granted it takes a bit more work to raise vehicle, but itís not bad at all since youíre lifting the axle directly. I would not jack from under the frame for various reasons, including that you have to lift much higher to decompress springs.

The rear jack location is under the axle tube, and thatís not easy to reach with my factory jack, particularly if you have a rear flat with single rear tires (was my only tire change on the road). Due to vehicle long rear overhang, and low ground clearance, it requires getting down on the ground to place the jack, and to ensure itís on right after you start the lift. I always double check to make certain it wonít (canít) slip. Iíd guess that placing any jack under rear axle will not be easy.

By the way, never place jack under differential pumpkin even if itís easier to reach. That can cause damage. Also, my factory jack has long handle so I can lift rear while behind van for safety. I donít recall how my Class C Ford jack worked, but think it was the same ó just heavier duty.
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