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08-25-2021, 07:18 PM
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Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: ACE 29.4
State: Pennsylvania
Posts: 59
THOR #6457
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Sorry you are being misinformed.
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08-25-2021, 07:39 PM
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Site Team
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: ACE 27.1
State: Florida
Posts: 14,328
THOR #7035
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AndyT1183
Sorry you are being misinformed.
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Who is being misinformed about what?
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2016 ACE 27.1
2016 Chevy Sonic Toad - Selling
2020 Chevy Colorado Z71 Trail Runner Toad
2024 Chevrolet Trax 2RS - Soon 2B TOAD
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08-25-2021, 08:04 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Hurricane 29M
State: Texas
Posts: 2,712
THOR #11781
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Put a saf t plus on my F-53 chassis based Hurricane. The chassis has no damper from the factory. The damper had zero affect on handling or ride but it is marketed as a safety device to assist during front tire blowouts.
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2018 Hurricane 29M
CHF, Saf-T-Plus, SumoSprings
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08-25-2021, 09:12 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Thor Ace 33.1
State: Illinois
Posts: 1,266
THOR #20274
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Originally Posted by smitty1020
Has anyone had this stabilizer installed on your MH. Of course, All dealers will say they are wonderful even if they are not.
Any feedback ??
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I put one on just for the heck of it, I figured it couldn't hurt and Ford steering can use as much help as it can get. I have the F53 chassis that alone is so much better than the 450 chassis we had before. It was a cheap install that took about a half hour. I had one nut on the chassis that my two small impacts couldn't remove so I had to remove it with a breaker bar
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08-25-2021, 09:37 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
State: California
Posts: 890
THOR #17478
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sip
I installed a safe-t-plus on our 2016 (E450) Vegas 24.1 ... I guess that's kinda technically a class A ... honestly, I didn't notice much of a difference. Normal road driving was fine before and is still fine now. As soon as there is any sort of breeze or wind, I still go through tons of underware
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I had a steering stabilizer put on our Class C and air bags. After I could drive it with one finger. Before doing this, I got pushed by trucks out of my lane and wind pushed me around as well. Good heavy duty sway bars and better shocks will also help. Safe-t-plus is just one part depending on what the manufacture did to the chassis when building the rig. Do one change at a time. Drive it and see how it changes the handling. My class C was a big tail dragger. The air bags fixed this along with a front end alignment after. I got the steering stabilizer after because it still felt a bit pushed when a real big truck passed.
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2013 Honda CRV
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08-25-2021, 10:10 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Thor Ace 33.1
State: Illinois
Posts: 1,266
THOR #20274
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Originally Posted by MLP
I had a steering stabilizer put on our Class C and air bags. After I could drive it with one finger. Before doing this, I got pushed by trucks out of my lane and wind pushed me around as well. Good heavy duty sway bars and better shocks will also help. Safe-t-plus is just one part depending on what the manufacture did to the chassis when building the rig. Do one change at a time. Drive it and see how it changes the handling. My class C was a big tail dragger. The air bags fixed this along with a front end alignment after. I got the steering stabilizer after because it still felt a bit pushed when a real big truck passed.
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That's why I got rid of mine, I wasn't going to spend thousands to fix a new motorhome
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08-25-2021, 10:11 PM
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Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Axis 25.3
State: Alabama
Posts: 78
THOR #20803
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I got an alignment at 10,000 miles, didn’t alter jack complete waste of $$$$.
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USAF Retired
2017 Axis 25.3
Toad-undecided
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08-25-2021, 10:25 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Thor Ace 33.1
State: Illinois
Posts: 1,266
THOR #20274
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Thor 25
I got an alignment at 10,000 miles, didn’t alter jack complete waste of $$$$.
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When I bought the 450 it drove so poorly that I got an alignment right away, it did nothing.
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08-25-2021, 10:51 PM
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Site Team
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: ACE 27.1
State: Florida
Posts: 14,328
THOR #7035
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Thor 25
I got an alignment at 10,000 miles, didn’t alter jack complete waste of $$$$.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bill Johnson
When I bought the 450 it drove so poorly that I got an alignment right away, it did nothing.
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A coach MAY have driving problems due to being out of alignment. An alignment is not an automatic cure-all for driving problems caused by other issues. By having your coach aligned you have eliminated that as a possible cause for your driving/handling problems and likely prevented abnormal tire wear.
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2016 ACE 27.1
2016 Chevy Sonic Toad - Selling
2020 Chevy Colorado Z71 Trail Runner Toad
2024 Chevrolet Trax 2RS - Soon 2B TOAD
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08-25-2021, 11:32 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
State: California
Posts: 890
THOR #17478
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bill Johnson
That's why I got rid of mine, I wasn't going to spend thousands to fix a new motorhome
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If you do some of the work yourself, pending less then 2-3k isn't too bad. Dumping a new RV will cost you a heck of a lot more.
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2013 Honda CRV
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08-26-2021, 12:06 AM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Thor Ace 33.1
State: Illinois
Posts: 1,266
THOR #20274
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MLP
If you do some of the work yourself, pending less then 2-3k isn't too bad. Dumping a new RV will cost you a heck of a lot more.
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I can do everything myself but I won't fix Ford's mistakes. It's too bad there isn't more competition and they would need to update their chassis more than once every 22 years and I think the f53 started around 1989
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08-26-2021, 12:23 AM
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Junior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Miramar 35.2
State: Alberta
Posts: 7
THOR #10677
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Definitely an option to consider, I installed a Roadmaster steering stabilizer on our Miramar 35.2 last season and it made a noticeable difference, the steering felt solid and not wandering.
This season I installed anti sway bars on the rear and what a difference, the steering stabilizer combination with the anti sway bars the motorhome drives so nice and I feel in total control of the motorhome, not like “herding” down the road.
It is a little pricey but we’ll worth it.
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08-26-2021, 12:30 AM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Forest River Forester 235
State: Indiana
Posts: 4,884
THOR #6826
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bill Johnson
I can do everything myself but I won't fix Ford's mistakes. It's too bad there isn't more competition and they would need to update their chassis more than once every 22 years and I think the f53 started around 1989
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Both chassis’s ARE decades old and neither was especially designed for comfort or handling. They are commercial/work trucks and they what they are. Personally, I find the truck like nature of my class A to be rather charming. I just make allowance for it by driving slower - as it was designed to be driven.
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08-26-2021, 01:02 AM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Thor Ace 33.1
State: Illinois
Posts: 1,266
THOR #20274
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Originally Posted by Pete'sMH
Both chassis’s ARE decades old and neither was especially designed for comfort or handling. They are commercial/work trucks and they what they are. Personally, I find the truck like nature of my class A to be rather charming. I just make allowance for it by driving slower - as it was designed to be driven.
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The class A is much better than the 450, it's not even close. The f53 chassis is smoother riding, better handling, not affected near as much by cross winds, not affected by trucks pass and has a shorter turning diameter. If only the steering wheel was connected with rack and pinion steering and not rope wrapped around the column and the other two ends going to the wheels. I love turning the steering wheel and seconds later it starts to turn and then anticipate ing the right time to turn it the other way. The 450 chassis is worse than the f53 but there is a lot of slop in both, it reminds me of driving a friend's new 1975 Ford econoline van I asked him if something was wrong with the steering because it was all over the road. He said that's how Ford's steer
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08-26-2021, 01:46 AM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Thor Tuscany 36 MQ
State: Indiana
Posts: 938
THOR #6280
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Quote:
Originally Posted by smithgarnat@aol.com
Yes. It’s just about a must on a large class A. Bolt on easy to install. I would also get an alignment. You will notice a big difference.
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I have a class A Thor Tuscany and I don't have an add on steering stabilizer because it has never been needed. This rig drives and handles like a dream.
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Traveling with Shih Tzu's Baily, Bella and Maltese Buster. Towing, Golf Cart, Harley or Polaris RZR. 3 of our darling Shih Tzu's passed away recently and I just can't take them off of here. RIP Baxter, Baili & sweet sweet Bella. Buster is our little rock.
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08-26-2021, 02:55 AM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Axis 25.6
State: Texas
Posts: 103
THOR #19026
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The factory unit is a joke.
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08-26-2021, 05:55 AM
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Site Team
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: ACE 27.1
State: Florida
Posts: 14,328
THOR #7035
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Edki45
The factory unit is a joke.
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The "factory unit", if provided, is not a steering stabilizer.
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2016 ACE 27.1
2016 Chevy Sonic Toad - Selling
2020 Chevy Colorado Z71 Trail Runner Toad
2024 Chevrolet Trax 2RS - Soon 2B TOAD
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08-26-2021, 08:32 AM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Vegas 24.1
State: Georgia
Posts: 476
THOR #21919
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Thor 25
I got an alignment at 10,000 miles, didn’t alter jack complete waste of $$$$.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bill Johnson
When I bought the 450 it drove so poorly that I got an alignment right away, it did nothing.
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Did either of you ask specifically for 5 deg of caster to be put in the alignment? If not, they just adjusted toe.
Post before and after alignment sheets.
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- Former US Marine - 1988-1996
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08-26-2021, 11:34 AM
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Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
State: Florida
Posts: 59
THOR #24089
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sportcoupe
My 2022 Vegas 24.1 came with a factory steering stabilizer. Are folks replacing the factory unit?
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The Axis also has factory shocks that are WAY overpowered by the weight of our rigs. BOTH of the front shocks were shot on mine, and that was after driving it home from the dealer w/only 1200 or so miles on it.
The U.S. government needs to make these "RUVs" safer before allowing these on the road. The fact that BOTH front shocks were overloaded from THOR's design should tell us all something...
Here's a pic of the old (new) shocks. 1 had zero rebound pressure, the other wasn't far behind... This proves without a doubt that these are overloaded and unsafe.
The shocks in my 2014 Dodge Ram 3500 diesel still look and function as new.
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Like everyone else who was conned into buying one, which require these mods to be road-safe. Hellwig anti-sway bar(s) (huge difference), Bilstein shocks (biggest difference maker), +5 Caster alignment, rear air bags, Sumo Springs front & back (also huge), steering stabilizer and on and on...
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08-26-2021, 11:35 AM
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Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
State: Florida
Posts: 59
THOR #24089
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sportcoupe
Did either of you ask specifically for 5 deg of caster to be put in the alignment? If not, they just adjusted toe.
Post before and after alignment sheets.
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Exactly... The +5 caster adjustment is paramount.
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Like everyone else who was conned into buying one, which require these mods to be road-safe. Hellwig anti-sway bar(s) (huge difference), Bilstein shocks (biggest difference maker), +5 Caster alignment, rear air bags, Sumo Springs front & back (also huge), steering stabilizer and on and on...
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