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Old 05-20-2021, 11:58 AM   #1
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Smile I've pre-reserved my ALL ELECTRIC Ford F150...

"563 horsepower, 775 pound-feet of torque, electronically controlled full-time four-wheel drive, 0-60 mph times in the mid 4-second range, 230- or 300-mile range... and 10,000lb towing capacity"

ALL ELECTRIC
NO GAS OR DIESEL
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USE TO POWER YOUR TOOLS
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https://www.ford.com/trucks/f150/f150-lightning/2022/
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Old 05-20-2021, 12:16 PM   #2
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Congratulations!
Have they given you a delivery date; or just a lick and a promise so far?
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Old 05-20-2021, 12:43 PM   #3
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Congratulations!
Have they given you a delivery date; or just a lick and a promise so far?
Next spring.

That is cool you reserved one (Turner).

I have no need and seeing as I already have a 99kWh battery sitting in the garage (and only a 30amp charger) I don't think I have room for the F-150.

Given the timing for the Mach-E, if the F-150 takes as long, then it would be next summer before you see it (of course Pandemic and chip shortage should be "going away" at this point so it may be closer to their predicted timing; that and the fact that it will be built right here in Dearborn instead of Mexico will probably also speed it along quite nicely).

The full size Bronco got pushed back a little due to chips and it is also built right here in Michigan.

Oh yeah and also based on the Mach-E ordering process: You'll get very little communications from Ford. Keep on your sales person to get the timing and where it is in the process (ask for the "Vehicle Visibility" report).
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Old 05-20-2021, 12:59 PM   #4
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One thing seems certain: all of that power will make the original Lightnings run for cover.
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Old 05-20-2021, 01:07 PM   #5
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"563 horsepower, 775 pound-feet of torque, electronically controlled full-time four-wheel drive, 0-60 mph times in the mid 4-second range, 230- or 300-mile range... and 10,000lb towing capacity"

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https://www.ford.com/trucks/f150/f150-lightning/2022/

Congratulations.

Can you flat tow it behind your motorhome?
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Old 05-20-2021, 01:11 PM   #6
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Congratulations.

Can you flat tow it behind your motorhome?
I don't think that is known yet--its super early; still over a year out.

Given past history, however, I'm going to say "NO" for two reasons:
  1. It will be very heavy--especially for the big battery
  2. No EV is flat-towable today (but you never know this may be the first)

The Ford engineer in charge has said that the battery alone in it weighs in at over 1,800 lbs.

Note that my Mach-E with its 99 kWh battery approaches 5000 lbs.

Rumor has it that the F-150 will have 120 kWh or even 180 kWh in it.

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Old 05-20-2021, 01:26 PM   #7
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I don't think that is known yet--its super early; still over a year out.

Given past history, however, I'm going to say "NO" for two reasons:
  1. It will be very heavy--especially for the big battery
  2. No EV is flat-towable today (but you never know this may be the first)

The Ford engineer in charge has said that the battery alone in it weighs in at over 1,800 lbs.

Note that my Mach-E with its 99 kWh battery approaches 5000 lbs.

Rumor has it that the F-150 will have 120 kWh or even 180 kWh in it.

He’s driving a diesel pusher, so I’d assume he could tow an electric F-150 if it’s possible. If not flat towable, it would be a shame. I’m assuming dual motors (front and back) so no transfer case to leave in neutral.

At 15 pounds per kWh, 1,800 pounds of batteries sounds in right range. However, it’s not all incremental weight. I’d be surprised if it weighs more than 7,000 pounds, and expect closer to 6,000 pounds empty. Just a guess, but weight should be OK for many motorhomes if F-150 can handle it.
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Old 05-20-2021, 01:48 PM   #8
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P.S. — Interesting that they enhanced Pro Power Onboard to 9.6 kW.

Also very interesting that independent rear suspension uses semi trailing arms, whereas spy photos showed a rear suspension much closer to that of an Expedition. It appears electric F-150 and Transit will share same or very similar semi trailing arm rear suspensions. The F-150 with 4-wheel independent suspension and all that battery mass located low in center of vehicle should ride great for a truck, or any vehicle for that matter.
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He’s driving a diesel pusher, so I’d assume he could tow an electric F-150 if it’s possible. If not flat towable, it would be a shame. I’m assuming dual motors (front and back) so no transfer case to leave in neutral.

At 15 pounds per kWh, 1,800 pounds of batteries sounds in right range. However, it’s not all incremental weight. I’d be surprised if it weighs more than 7,000 pounds, and expect closer to 6,000 pounds empty. Just a guess, but weight should be OK for many motorhomes if F-150 can handle it.
True as far as weight.

Its the other issue that will likely be the determining factor. If they designed it to be towable or not.
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Old 05-20-2021, 05:35 PM   #11
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He’s driving a diesel pusher, so I’d assume he could tow an electric F-150 if it’s possible. If not flat towable, it would be a shame. I’m assuming dual motors (front and back) so no transfer case to leave in neutral.

At 15 pounds per kWh, 1,800 pounds of batteries sounds in right range. However, it’s not all incremental weight. I’d be surprised if it weighs more than 7,000 pounds, and expect closer to 6,000 pounds empty. Just a guess, but weight should be OK for many motorhomes if F-150 can handle it.
If he’s driving a Palazzo he has no towing capAcity to speak of due to the transmission installed. Just because someone has a DP doesn’t mean they can tow anything heavy.
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In any case, nice for owners to have option to plug motorhome into electric F-150 and power air conditioner for days, or power residential fridge for well over a week, etc.


With electric Transit, Ford limits Pro Power Onboard to 2.4 kW (according to ads), but with F-150 they enhanced capabilities to 9.6 kW (enhanced from hybrid F-150’s 7.2 kW). Maybe Ford will rethink eTransit PPO capacity.
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Old 05-20-2021, 06:03 PM   #13
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If he’s driving a Palazzo he has no towing capAcity to speak of due to the transmission installed. Just because someone has a DP doesn’t mean they can tow anything heavy.

Agree. Hitch rating shows 10,000 pounds, but GCWR suggests a loaded down motorhome close to its GVWR would not have nearly as much actual towing capacity.
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In any case, nice for owners to have option to plug motorhome into electric F-150 and power air conditioner for days, or power residential fridge for well over a week, etc.


With electric Transit, Ford limits Pro Power Onboard to 2.4 kW (according to ads), but with F-150 they enhanced capabilities to 9.6 kW (enhanced from hybrid F-150’s 7.2 kW). Maybe Ford will rethink eTransit PPO capacity.
The F-150 Lightning's Pro power ranges from 2.6kW to the full 9.6kW depending on options ($$$).
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Not my cup of tea but I applaud the early adopter. I had a Chevrolet Volt for several years starting when they first were introduced. I was amazed at how rude and opinionated people were if they didn’t understand or like the car. I used it mostly for commuting the 25 miles to work and my employer gave me a primo parking space and free plug in. When I traded it in (on a lovely 6 speed Mustang!) my life time mileage was 232 mpg!
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The F-150 Lightning's Pro power ranges from 2.6kW to the full 9.6kW depending on options ($$$).

Thanks, I see that now in specs.

By the way, you may be right on electric F-150 weight being fairly high. The eTransit which only has rear motor, and a lot less battery capacity, ranges from about 5,600 to 6,200 pounds. Granted, it has steel body, but in gasoline versions an F-150 is similar in weight to a Transit.

I was just told by a friend that during filming of a reality show a Rivian pickup was flat-towed-charged in an emergency to get battery charged-up when an electric charger was not available. I assume it works just like regenerative braking, minus brakes.

Anyway, a cool option for RVers would be charging while being towed. That would allow batteries to be used at night while boondocking and then charged back up while driving next day. Software could limit drag on motorhome to whatever driver selected.
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Old 05-20-2021, 10:48 PM   #18
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Thanks, I see that now in specs.

By the way, you may be right on electric F-150 weight being fairly high. The eTransit which only has rear motor, and a lot less battery capacity, ranges from about 5,600 to 6,200 pounds. Granted, it has steel body, but in gasoline versions an F-150 is similar in weight to a Transit.

I was just told by a friend that during filming of a reality show a Rivian pickup was flat-towed-charged in an emergency to get battery charged-up when an electric charger was not available. I assume it works just like regenerative braking, minus brakes.

Anyway, a cool option for RVers would be charging while being towed. That would allow batteries to be used at night while boondocking and then charged back up while driving next day. Software could limit drag on motorhome to whatever driver selected.
Yeah since EV's are pretty much a computer on wheels any manufacturer could implement a "flat tow" mode where the car engages just enough regen to keep the batteries topped off while not providing too much drag on the tow vehicle.
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That’s awesome and congratulations. I hope the electric trucks can be viable. My wife wants a Jeep Gladiator so I am waiting for an electric version. Her wrangler is a. 2013 with only 25k miles on it so an electric vehicle is perfect for her.
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That’s awesome and congratulations. I hope the electric trucks can be viable. My wife wants a Jeep Gladiator so I am waiting for an electric version. Her wrangler is a. 2013 with only 25k miles on it so an electric vehicle is perfect for her.
My neighbor just got a hybrid rubicon. It only gets 30 mile per charge. But that enough to go to work where he haS free charging

It's pretty nice

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