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Old 02-20-2021, 02:20 AM   #1
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Old 02-20-2021, 02:36 AM   #2
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2017 Thor Axis steering stabilizer

Just purchased 2017 Thor Axis 25.2. I read all the treads about steering stabilizer. I am little confused. Today I check under the RV looks like front sway bar, rear sway bar and steering stabilizer installed installed. I think these are factory installed by ford I am not sure. I did alignment. But driving on highway 60 mph holding in line not easy. My question is If I upgrade these with road master Do you think driving will be improved.

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You can't post photos from your Google Photos account as the links lead to a google page, not a picture.

You have the standard steering damper and and sway bars.

Most people get good results with a steering stabilizer from Roadmaster or Safe T Plus as the next upgrade after alignment.
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Old 02-20-2021, 02:41 AM   #4
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You can't post photos from your Google Photos account as the links lead to a google page, not a picture.

You have the standard steering damper and and sway bars.

Most people get good results with a steering stabilizer from Roadmaster or Safe T Plus as the next upgrade after alignment.
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I am new to forum. I just figure out adding as attachment. I think I create another tread sorry for inconvenience.
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Old 02-20-2021, 02:47 AM   #5
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You might want to put a few more miles on it before you decide.
A HUGE percentage of rv's, I'll guess 95%, never do suspension changes.
A LOT of the changes are just bandwagoneering.

Drive it a bit, get a little more comfortable.
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Old 02-20-2021, 04:04 AM   #6
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You can't post photos from your Google Photos account as the links lead to a google page, not a picture.



You have the standard steering damper and and sway bars.



Most people get good results with a steering stabilizer from Roadmaster or Safe T Plus as the next upgrade after alignment.


If he bought it used it might already have an aftermarket stabilizer
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Old 02-20-2021, 05:49 AM   #7
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If he bought it used it might already have an aftermarket stabilizer
Did you look at the first picture? That's an OEM steering damper.
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Old 02-20-2021, 06:10 AM   #8
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I concur, those are all FORD OEM components, two sways + steering damper.

You can DIY front & rear Helwig Sways for about $600. You should also install the front Moog end links.
Or, as a lesser option for sway control and much less expensive...you can install front SUMO springs instead.

If you don’t want to spend the additional $600 + install cost for a “Steering Stabilizer”,
You can always go with a Bilstein steering damper for about $100. You will feel the difference. That’s an ez DIY install.

Everything is available on Amazon, competitive price, quick delivery, ez free returns.
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2019 Vegas 25.5, did front Sumo's and rear Helwig Sway. Happy with results. Sway reduced and overall better feel at the freeway speeds. Still rolling with the OEM steering damper.
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Old 02-20-2021, 05:27 PM   #10
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We went with Roadmaster stabilizer early on. It did make a big difference in wander/sway. That is all we have done as unit handles fine.

The reason we changed it was during early trips, while still working RV would sit 2 weeks then head to track, 85 mile trip. The RV after sitting would wahder/sway some. Then would be much calmer on trip home. Figured a HD unit plus return to center spring would be reasonable upgrade. I ordered and installed myself.

What I found with oem damper was that it needed a fair amount of movement before actual damping took place. Was either defective or weak. After change heading out was same as return trip.
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Old 02-20-2021, 05:51 PM   #11
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Thank you all. I ordered following.

- Safe-T-Plus RV Steering Stabilizer 31-140 Silver
-Safe-T-Plus RV Steering Stabilizer Mounting Kit (Model: E-353K14)
- Roadmaster 1139-176 front Sway Bar
- Roadmaster Rear Anti-Sway Bar 1139-147
- SuperSprings International, Inc. SSF-106-47 | SumoSprings Front for Ford E-150|E-250, Ford E-350|E-450

I hope this will make better driving. If not I am planing to install following.

- SuperSteer SS402 Rear Trac Bar
- Bilstein B6 Series 4 Shocks Kit for 00-02 Ford E-450 Econoline Super Duty Ride Monotube replacement Gas Charged Shock absorbers part number 33-187570, 33-176857

I check moog end link is this correct one.
Moog K8987 Front Sway Bar End Link Kit https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000C59ZZ4...8WWN8GE4WD2DM5
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Old 02-20-2021, 06:36 PM   #12
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We went with Roadmaster stabilizer early on. It did make a big difference in wander/sway. That is all we have done as unit handles fine.

The reason we changed it was during early trips, while still working RV would sit 2 weeks then head to track, 85 mile trip. The RV after sitting would wahder/sway some. Then would be much calmer on trip home. Figured a HD unit plus return to center spring would be reasonable upgrade. I ordered and installed myself.

What I found with oem damper was that it needed a fair amount of movement before actual damping took place. Was either defective or weak. After change heading out was same as return trip.
The OEM Damper seems to do absolutely nothing. It's worthless when compared to a Steering Stabilizer, or even the upgraded Bilstein Damper.
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Did you look at the first picture? That's an OEM steering damper.


Oops. My bad. You’re right, of course. Usually I’m more careful.....
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Old 02-20-2021, 08:44 PM   #14
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Thank you all. I ordered following.

- Safe-T-Plus RV Steering Stabilizer 31-140 Silver
-Safe-T-Plus RV Steering Stabilizer Mounting Kit (Model: E-353K14)
- Roadmaster 1139-176 front Sway Bar
- Roadmaster Rear Anti-Sway Bar 1139-147
- SuperSprings International, Inc. SSF-106-47 | SumoSprings Front for Ford E-150|E-250, Ford E-350|E-450

I hope this will make better driving. If not I am planing to install following.

- SuperSteer SS402 Rear Trac Bar
- Bilstein B6 Series 4 Shocks Kit for 00-02 Ford E-450 Econoline Super Duty Ride Monotube replacement Gas Charged Shock absorbers part number 33-187570, 33-176857

I check moog end link is this correct one.
Moog K8987 Front Sway Bar End Link Kit https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000C59ZZ4...8WWN8GE4WD2DM5
Please do a follow up with cost, installation cost and if the improvement was worth the cost.in expense and downtime.
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Old 02-20-2021, 09:34 PM   #15
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Please do a follow up with cost, installation cost and if the improvement was worth the cost.in expense and downtime.
- Safe-T-Plus RV Steering Stabilizer 31-140 Silver $362.46
- Safe-T-Plus RV Steering Stabilizer Mounting Kit (Model: E-353K14) $60.66
- Roadmaster 1139-176 front Sway Bar $353.88
- Roadmaster Rear Anti-Sway Bar 1139-147 $479.96
- SuperSprings International, Inc. SSF-106-47 | SumoSprings Front for Ford E-150|E-250, Ford E-350|E-450 $184.99

Total part cost is $1441. Best price was on Amazon except rear sway bar purchased from e trailer. I am going to install by myself. Local repair shop give quote to install $3800 include parts.
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Helwig sway bars are $620 for both front&rear on Amazon

Also, I said in another post...I purchased the Moog end links for the fronts ($44 for the pair)

Although, even with the Moog’s, I recently broke one.
And the Moog’s are much beefier than the stock Ford end links

You’ll see when you start the install process
The new front sway bar is a monster that really torque’s, and keep your beast from rocking side to side
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Helwig sway bars are $620 for both front&rear on Amazon

Also, I said in another post...I purchased the Moog end links for the fronts ($44 for the pair)

Although, even with the Moog’s, I recently broke one.
And the Moog’s are much beefier than the stock Ford end links

You’ll see when you start the install process
The new front sway bar is a monster that really torque’s, and keep your beast from rocking side to side
Helwig is cheaper than road master after reading all reviews I decided to go RM.
I find moog on Amazon do you think this is the right one?
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000C59ZZ4/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_VR2NMJ8WWN8GE4WD2DM5
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Old 02-21-2021, 01:36 AM   #18
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This one...

https://www.amazon.com/Moog-K750322-.../dp/B004J2IL10
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Thank you. I will install these as well.
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I also have a 2017 Thor. After doing everything you mentioned it would still not track like it should. Ended up getting the caster increased to +5 and that solved the problem. Good luck with yours.
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