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11-14-2020, 08:10 PM
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Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Hurricane 35M
State: California
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THOR #14439
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Chassis Upgrades for F53
Just completed my chassis upgrades to my 2018 Hurricane 35M. Summo Springs front and back; Bilstein shocks all 4 corners; Bilstein steering stabilizer; and front sway bar extensions. We have a completely different coach. No tiredness or exhaustion fighting the coach on long trips. I learned about all of these upgrades right here on this forum. Thanks to all the TMC owners whom I leaned on for advice!
It all worked brilliantly😁👍🏼
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11-14-2020, 08:14 PM
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Model: 3719 Newmar
State: Arkansas
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THOR #14120
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Originally Posted by sanapier
Just completed my chassis upgrades to my 2018 Hurricane 35M. Summo Springs front and back; Bilstein shocks all 4 corners; Bilstein steering stabilizer; and front sway bar extensions. We have a completely different coach. No tiredness or exhaustion fighting the coach on long trips. I learned about all of these upgrades right here on this forum. Thanks to all the TMC owners whom I leaned on for advice!
It all worked brilliantly[emoji16][emoji1360]
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I have summo on the front. Thinking of adding to the back. What does the Bilstein shocks do? Better ride? Thanks.
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11-14-2020, 08:43 PM
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Site Team
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: ACE 27.1
State: Florida
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Lots of resellers calls what Bilstein offers "Steering Stabilizers" but Bilstein calls them what they really are; "steering dampers".
The only Steering Stabilizers for the F53 are Safe-T-Plus and Roadmaster Reflex.
A damper (or dampener) is simply a shock absorber for the side to side steering. It does not help center the steering.
A stabilizer has the shock effect as well as a "return to center" spring assist.
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11-15-2020, 04:37 AM
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Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Hurricane 35M
State: California
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THOR #14439
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Whatever... So I guess you correct everybody's nomenclature? Sorry I incorrectly called it a Bilstein steering stabilizer (dampener)....
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11-15-2020, 04:40 AM
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Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Hurricane 35M
State: California
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THOR #14439
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Yeah... Much better after summo springs, even more better after Bilsteins
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11-15-2020, 11:05 AM
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Model: Freedom Traveller A27
State: North Carolina
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sanapier
Yeah... Much better after summo springs, even more better after Bilsteins��
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I’m curious to know what sway bar extensions are. I did the CHF both front and back.
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11-15-2020, 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by sanapier
Yeah... Much better after summo springs, even more better after Bilsteins
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Sanapier, do you have the summo on the front and rear?
About how much are the Bilsteins. Did you install them yourself? Thanks
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11-15-2020, 02:40 PM
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Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Hurricane 35M
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Well...they are what it says I guess. They are longer and thicker and gives your sway bar more tension.....
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11-15-2020, 02:42 PM
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Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Hurricane 35M
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No. I had a large industrial tire shop install them. The rear requires drilling the frame and I don't own pneumatic tools. Great question!
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11-16-2020, 04:11 PM
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Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Damon Daybreak
State: New Mexico
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sanapier
Well...they are what it says I guess. They are longer and thicker and gives your sway bar more tension.....
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Could you provide a picture? I guess I'm not understanding exactly what they are.
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11-16-2020, 04:13 PM
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Model: 3719 Newmar
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Originally Posted by HarryS
Could you provide a picture? I guess I'm not understanding exactly what they are.
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HarryS, I don’t get what they are either. Maybe it’s just us haha?
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11-16-2020, 06:29 PM
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Brand: Thor Motor Coach
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Originally Posted by jannnda
HarryS, I don’t get what they are either. Maybe it’s just us haha?
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Not just you. I didn’t understand either!
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11-16-2020, 06:46 PM
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Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: ACE 27.1
State: Florida
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THOR #7035
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Quote:
Originally Posted by HarryS
Could you provide a picture? I guess I'm not understanding exactly what they are.
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Originally Posted by jannnda
HarryS, I don’t get what they are either. Maybe it’s just us haha?
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Originally Posted by Pete'sMH
Not just you. I didn’t understand either!
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They're sway bar replacement links. On some F53 chassis you can't do the CHF with the original links as it throws the geometry out the door. The replacement links allow the benefits of the CHF and maintains the correct angle to the sway bars.
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11-16-2020, 06:51 PM
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Senior Member
Model: 3719 Newmar
State: Arkansas
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THOR #14120
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Originally Posted by 16ACE27
They're sway bar replacement links. On some F53 chassis you can't do the CHF with the original links as it throws the geometry out the door. The replacement links allow the benefits of the CHF and maintains the correct angle to the sway bars.
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I am confused about the Bilstein
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11-16-2020, 07:00 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jannnda
I am confused about the Bilstein
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In what way? he had new Bilstein shocks installed and a Bilstein Steering Dampener installed - which is basically just a shock absorber for the steering system to dampen its left and right movements.
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11-16-2020, 07:22 PM
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Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Hurricane 35M
State: California
Posts: 30
THOR #14439
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Quote:
Originally Posted by HarryS
Could you provide a picture? I guess I'm not understanding exactly what they are.
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No I cannot Harry. Already installed and I cannot get underneath my Hurricane due to some mobility issues.
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11-16-2020, 07:41 PM
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Senior Member
Model: 3719 Newmar
State: Arkansas
Posts: 656
THOR #14120
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 16ACE27
In what way? he had new Bilstein shocks installed and a Bilstein Steering Dampener installed - which is basically just a shock absorber for the steering system to dampen its left and right movements.
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The shocks. What makes Bilstein different than any other shock?
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11-16-2020, 08:10 PM
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Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Hurricane 31S
State: Texas
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jannnda
The shocks. What makes Bilstein different than any other shock?
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There are at least 6 different manufactures of shock absorbers for the different iterations of the F-53 chassis. The valving is different in the different shocks as is the valve actuation, even the shock diameter and construction can vary (single chamber, dual chamber, remote reservoir). There are different calibrations for jounce and rebound controlled by inertia valves or pressure valves or even a combination of the two.
See SDtrucksprings, Rockauto or Summitracing for more info.
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11-16-2020, 08:23 PM
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Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Hurricane 35M
State: California
Posts: 30
THOR #14439
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 16ACE27
They're sway bar replacement links. On some F53 chassis you can't do the CHF with the original links as it throws the geometry out the door. The replacement links allow the benefits of the CHF and maintains the correct angle to the sway bars.
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Nice reply. Very well stated...
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11-16-2020, 08:29 PM
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Senior Member
Model: 3719 Newmar
State: Arkansas
Posts: 656
THOR #14120
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Beau388
There are at least 6 different manufactures of shock absorbers for the different iterations of the F-53 chassis. The valving is different in the different shocks as is the valve actuation, even the shock diameter and construction can vary (single chamber, dual chamber, remote reservoir). There are different calibrations for jounce and rebound controlled by inertia valves or pressure valves or even a combination of the two.
See SDtrucksprings, Rockauto or Summitracing for more info.
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Thanks Beau388. I had no idea that many options were available.
Have you replaced your shocks? If so, what did you pick?
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