|
|
05-31-2021, 12:09 AM
|
#21
|
I Think We're Lost!
Brand: Still Looking
Model: Tiffin Wayfarer 24 BW
State: New York
Posts: 22,195
THOR #8860
|
I do have an asphalt driveway and parking area. If someone showed up here and wanted to put down their jacks: they'd better have pads under them.
__________________
|
|
|
05-31-2021, 12:30 AM
|
#22
|
Site Team
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: ACE 27.1
State: Florida
Posts: 14,045
THOR #7035
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by sportcoupe
Explain why I would need a jack pad or plywood or a mat under a jack?
|
Required by some RV parks on hard surface sites.
__________________
Ted & Melinda
2016 ACE 27.1
2016 Chevy Sonic Toad - Selling
2020 Chevy Colorado Z71 Trail Runner Toad
2024 Chevrolet Trax 2RS - Soon 2B TOAD
|
|
|
05-31-2021, 12:22 PM
|
#23
|
Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Four Winds 26B
State: Ohio
Posts: 489
THOR #20900
|
Asphalt is an amorphous solid. It never fully hardens, and can be damaged by small surface area points of pressure, if they're sitting there long enough or if the ground under the asphalt wasn't properly packed and settled before the asphalt was put down. The pads (of whatever type) can help prevent that (or at least result in it taking longer).
Sand can shift, or the RV shift, just a little resulting in the foot digging in and making it hard to raise again. I've not had that happen with leveling jacks but have with stabilizers on a past unit. Pads can help prevent that too.
Whether or not an individual has either problem depends on other factors specific to them, which is why we have these things as options. Each to their own. I personally love not having to put down my own pads and using the Snap Pads.
__________________
2021 Thor Four Winds 26B on Chevy 4500
|
|
|
05-31-2021, 01:26 PM
|
#24
|
Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Miramar 37.1
State: California
Posts: 2,457
THOR #12698
|
I still plan on buying the snap pads. I currently am using pads made from recycled tires under each foot along with a yellow plastic pad for support. I just have a piece of 550 cord attached to each pad so I can remove them easier from underneath the coach when we leave.
Paul
__________________
|
|
|
05-31-2021, 03:13 PM
|
#25
|
Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Vegas 24.1
State: Georgia
Posts: 476
THOR #21919
|
The argument was that the pads protect the steel jack plate from damage. I claimed that no surface camped on will damage the steel plates. Response was that asphalt could be damaged. That is not my concern and again will not damage the steel plates.
__________________
- 2022 Vegas 24.1
- Former US Marine - 1988-1996
|
|
|
05-31-2021, 03:24 PM
|
#26
|
Site Team
Brand: Entegra
Model: Accolade 37TS
State: South Dakota
Posts: 8,705
THOR #1469
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by sportcoupe
The argument was that the pads protect the steel jack plate from damage. I claimed that no surface camped on will damage the steel plates. Response was that asphalt could be damaged. That is not my concern and again will not damage the steel plates.
|
The is no argument. The question is what do folks think about leveling jack pads. Folks can answer the question with their thoughts and move on from there.
__________________
Dave
US Army (Ret)
2020 Entegra Accolade 37TS
2019 Jeep Grand Cherokee Trailhawk (Toad)
FMCA - F432054
|
|
|
05-31-2021, 03:40 PM
|
#27
|
I Think We're Lost!
Brand: Still Looking
Model: Tiffin Wayfarer 24 BW
State: New York
Posts: 22,195
THOR #8860
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by sportcoupe
The argument was that the pads protect the steel jack plate from damage. I claimed that no surface camped on will damage the steel plates. Response was that asphalt could be damaged. That is not my concern and again will not damage the steel plates.
|
There have been reports posted in here; of jack feet getting turned-up by rough terrain...
It can't hurt to have them...
https://www.thorforums.com/forums/at...1&d=1622475740
__________________
"What: me worry?"
Good Sam Member 843599689
Current coach: Tiffin Wayfarer 24 BW
|
|
|
05-31-2021, 04:08 PM
|
#28
|
Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: '17-Vegas 24.1
State: California
Posts: 2,217
THOR #13362
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by sportcoupe
The argument was that the pads protect the steel jack plate from damage. I claimed that no surface camped on will damage the steel plates. Response was that asphalt could be damaged. That is not my concern and again will not damage the steel plates.
|
It’s all about clearance for straight leg jacks.
That said...HWH sells a system with “Kick-Down” jacks that provides excellent clearance. But those feet are small, about 3” x 3” square (see photo below).
They will absolutely sink on everything but concrete.
So they definitely need a large foot pad.
Also they are a very expensive mod, about $6k installed with touch pad or joystick.
Some Forum members have installed on their Thor(s).
__________________
'17 Vegas 24.1
Fallbrook, CA
|
|
|
05-31-2021, 04:24 PM
|
#29
|
Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: A.C.E. 27.2
State: Indiana
Posts: 1,830
THOR #14698
|
I don't get the I don't care if I damage the asphalt attitude. There are some beautiful Forest Service & State Park campgrounds that have asphalt parking aprons. Those campgrounds get trashed and the Forest Service or State doesn't have the funds to repair them. They aren't collecting enough in fees to offset the cost of repaving the parking aprons.
If you choose to stick it to the private RV park owner and they have to repave the parking aprons they will just increase fees to offset the costs. So in the long run we all pay the piper.
__________________
2018 ACE 27.2
Toad 2019 Jeep Cherokee Trailhawk
Roadmaster Falcon All Terrain Towbar
Roadmaster Invisibrake
|
|
|
05-31-2021, 05:03 PM
|
#30
|
I Think We're Lost!
Brand: Still Looking
Model: Tiffin Wayfarer 24 BW
State: New York
Posts: 22,195
THOR #8860
|
Perhaps a tiny bit of consideration for th "other guy"...
__________________
|
|
|
05-31-2021, 05:40 PM
|
#31
|
Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Chateau 24F
State: Ohio
Posts: 4,047
THOR #16721
|
Larger steel feet means more weight. The engineers struck a balance. That added weight on a diesel pusher is negligible... but on a smaller class C it's detrimental.
The majority of people WILL at some point drop them onto hot soft asphalt. Hope that's not your driveway... unless you enjoy little square divots!
For us in Ohio, more than half of state parks have asphalt pads - and rarely level. We boondock in dirt/gravel and sometimes very soft ground in Ohio forests. For us, having a rubber pad to distribute the weight and to add lift in very unlevel sites... typical of where we camp.
__________________
|
|
|
05-31-2021, 06:16 PM
|
#32
|
Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Vegas 24.1
State: Georgia
Posts: 476
THOR #21919
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by EA37TS
The is no argument.....
|
I asked for reasons why to use jack pads. Members presented their case, or argued it gentlemen like. I questioned their data presented in this argument.
__________________
- 2022 Vegas 24.1
- Former US Marine - 1988-1996
|
|
|
05-31-2021, 06:39 PM
|
#33
|
Senior Member
Brand: Redwood
Model: 36FB
State: Arizona
Posts: 1,766
THOR #3610
|
"As to damaging asphalt, not my concern."
Unfortunately this is the attitude of a lot of folks nowadays, NO concern for anything/anybody but me me me mine mine mine.
I was taught that whatever I do, wherever I go leave it in as good or better shape than I found it, take nothing but pictures, leave nothing but foot prints.
We've work camped as housekeepers in a 55+ (people damn sure old enough to know better) rv resort & you would not believe the way these people abuse, misuse, destroy & go off leaving very nice facilities just because they know someone else is taking care of picking up after them, it's not their concern.
__________________
Fulltimed 10+ years
Sold '13 Thor Redwood 36 FB
Traded '13 GMC Denali DRW D/A
Replacement undetermined
|
|
|
05-31-2021, 08:33 PM
|
#34
|
Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Vegas 24.1
State: Georgia
Posts: 476
THOR #21919
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Travelin' Texans
"As to damaging asphalt, not my concern."
Unfortunately this is the attitude of a lot of folks nowadays, NO concern for anything/anybody but me me me mine mine mine.
I was taught that whatever I do, wherever I go leave it in as good or better shape than I found it, take nothing but pictures, leave nothing but foot prints.
We've work camped as housekeepers in a 55+ (people damn sure old enough to know better) rv resort & you would not believe the way these people abuse, misuse, destroy & go off leaving very nice facilities just because they know someone else is taking care of picking up after them, it's not their concern.
|
Tex, you make a lot of assumptions. It isn't my concern because I don't camp on asphalt.
__________________
- 2022 Vegas 24.1
- Former US Marine - 1988-1996
|
|
|
06-02-2021, 06:30 PM
|
#35
|
Junior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
State: Florida
Posts: 2
THOR #20338
|
Bent pads with or without snap pads
I’ve bent the feet on my jacks on the Magnitude twice. First time was without snap pads the second time was with them. Both times was on a movable surface, once gravel at a park, second dirt. So they definitely can be damaged on a non flat, non solid surface. They are way to thin for what they are supporting. I now have snap pads plus 2x12 pieces.
Quote:
Originally Posted by sportcoupe
I don't see a steel foot being damaged by dirt, rocks, asphalt or concrete.
A surface that cannot take the pressure of a steel plate is not a place I'd want to camp at (swamp).
|
__________________
|
|
|
06-02-2021, 06:43 PM
|
#36
|
I Think We're Lost!
Brand: Still Looking
Model: Tiffin Wayfarer 24 BW
State: New York
Posts: 22,195
THOR #8860
|
If somebody in here with a welder wanted to make some money: I'll bet they could figure out a way to reinforce those jack feet...
__________________
"What: me worry?"
Good Sam Member 843599689
Current coach: Tiffin Wayfarer 24 BW
|
|
|
06-02-2021, 06:49 PM
|
#37
|
Senior Member
Brand: Redwood
Model: 36FB
State: Arizona
Posts: 1,766
THOR #3610
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by sportcoupe
Tex, you make a lot of assumptions. It isn't my concern because I don't camp on asphalt.
|
Just quoted your comment!
Maybe you should've worded it the same as you did here scolding me then there couldn't have been any assumptions.
__________________
Fulltimed 10+ years
Sold '13 Thor Redwood 36 FB
Traded '13 GMC Denali DRW D/A
Replacement undetermined
|
|
|
06-02-2021, 07:05 PM
|
#38
|
I Think We're Lost!
Brand: Still Looking
Model: Tiffin Wayfarer 24 BW
State: New York
Posts: 22,195
THOR #8860
|
Some folks don't camp on asphalt: they just park their rigs on it...
__________________
"What: me worry?"
Good Sam Member 843599689
Current coach: Tiffin Wayfarer 24 BW
|
|
|
06-02-2021, 07:33 PM
|
#39
|
Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Thor Tuscany 36 MQ
State: Indiana
Posts: 935
THOR #6280
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chateau_Nomad
I'm getting Bigfoot levelers in a few weeks. They told me Snap Pads would reduce clearance on my class C, and don't recommend them. The solution is get a rubber stall mat from a Tractor Supply store and cut it with a circular saw into 4 pieces just big enough to go under the landing feet. The downside is they take up storage space - the upside is a 4' x 3' x 1/2" is only $28... and they're waterproof and indestructible.
|
Heck yeah! At that price even if you cut them up and glued 2 pieces together to make a 1" thick pad it's money saved BIG TIME! I was going to buy some but found they were stupid expensive for no good reason. (I have an issue with paying a huge price for something I don't see value in) but heck there's a Tractor Supply by me and I'm heading over there. Thanks for the idea!!!!
__________________
Bill & Martha more than 46 years.
Traveling with Shih Tzu's Baily, Bella and Maltese Buster. Towing, Golf Cart, Harley or Polaris RZR. 3 of our darling Shih Tzu's passed away recently and I just can't take them off of here. RIP Baxter, Baili & sweet sweet Bella. Buster is our little rock.
|
|
|
06-02-2021, 07:43 PM
|
#40
|
Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: 2018 24.1 AXISSIXxSIX
State: Arizona
Posts: 6,735
THOR #13932
|
Three things
1 sawzall not circ saw for those mats. I have about 2200sqft of them laid.
2 I just got off the phone an hour ago with a forum memeber who dragged his big foots down the highway for a bit when they activated on their own. I've designed a very simple bypass so the pump can't do that. I doubt it costs $50.
3 divide vehicle weight by pad size until you get psi. There isnt' a reason in the entire world to not add larger pads. The system designer met a price point, not a compulsory limit.
|
|
|
|
|
Thread Tools |
|
Display Modes |
Linear Mode
|
Posting Rules
|
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is Off
|
|
|
|
|