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03-20-2020, 01:26 AM
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Junior Member
State: California
Posts: 22
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I installed a front steering stabilizer, I’m not so sure there was much of a difference in the coach.
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03-20-2020, 03:20 AM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: S.O.B.
State: California
Posts: 1,368
THOR #3483
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Steering Stabilizer
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Originally Posted by raffit78
I installed a front steering stabilizer, I’m not so sure there was much of a difference in the coach.
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What brand on what kind of rig did you install? I know that the Saf-T-Plus I had installed on our 24.1 Thor Axis E450 made a HUGE improvement.
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03-20-2020, 09:26 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Vegas 24.1
State: Michigan
Posts: 106
THOR #17787
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Quote:
Originally Posted by axis earl
What brand on what kind of rig did you install? I know that the Saf-T-Plus I had installed on our 24.1 Thor Axis E450 made a HUGE improvement.
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I put a Safe T Plus on my E350 24.1 Vegas. There is improvement but by no means huge.
It centers nicely but a semi passing me requires about 30 degrees of initial steering wheel movement toward the semi.(consider the steering wheel a 360 degree azimuth) Then about 15 degrees of crab toward as it’s passing, about 30 degrees of opposite deflection once it clears, and then 15 degrees back to recenter the wheel.
It varies a bit with the speed of the truck passing me but even with the Safe T Plus a gust could push me into the rumble strips if I’m not paying attention.
For the price of the thing it provides far less lateral help than I’d hoped or expected.
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05-04-2020, 06:45 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: 2019 Vegas 24.1
State: Florida
Posts: 163
THOR #17456
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Agree on the Bilstein.
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Originally Posted by taylorbob1
Personally, I like the Helwig front & rear anti-sways. They are the best mod you can do on a Vegas/Axis.
They were about $600 for the parts on Amazon + a fairly straightforward DIY install.
SUMO’s on the front are the least expensive mod, and is a simple install
Not sure if SUMO’s are needed on the rear if you have the anti-sways.
And, I didn’t go with the Saf-T-Plus, but opted for a $100 Bilstein Steering Damper that performs much better than the whimpy stock Ford damper.
I did add Airlift 1000 air bags inside the front coils which gives me an additional 1” lift in the front end which makes a noticeable improvement as well. That was $70 + DIY.
So, about $1,000 invested in parts + DIY.
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Just installed the Bilstein 5100 steering damper replacing the Ford unit that had only 2200 miles on it. Cost of the Bilstein was $111. Installation was simple, and I already had all of the tools. And, you're right, the Ford unit is wimpy with so little resistance it does almost nothing!
The steering is definitely "tighter" with less wandering between the inside and outside of the lane. I feel I got my money's worth.
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05-04-2020, 06:50 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: '17-Vegas 24.1
State: California
Posts: 2,217
THOR #13362
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Quote:
Originally Posted by twovillagers
Just installed the Bilstein 5100 steering damper replacing the Ford unit that had only 2200 miles on it. Cost of the Bilstein was $111. Installation was simple, and I already had all of the tools. And, you're right, the Ford unit is wimpy with so little resistance it does almost nothing!
The steering is definitely "tighter" with less wandering between the inside and outside of the lane. I feel I got my money's worth.
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05-06-2020, 12:21 AM
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Junior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Ace 27.7
State: Indiana
Posts: 29
THOR #15856
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I have a 2020 vegas 27.7 and it came from the factory with a front stabilizer. You might chec to see if you already have one.
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Originally Posted by Mwiemer
Try etralier.com
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05-06-2020, 09:23 AM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: 2019 Vegas 24.1
State: Florida
Posts: 163
THOR #17456
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E350/450 Steering Stabilizer
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Originally Posted by Mwiemer
I have a 2020 vegas 27.7 and it came from the factory with a front stabilizer. You might chec to see if you already have one.
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All motorhome chassis have an OEM steering stabilizer-basically a horizontal shock absorber. The performance of the E350/450 OEM stabilizer is not enough, in the opinion of many posters. It isn't completely ineffective, just not enough for a motorhome. Almost any aftermarket unit such as Bilstein, Fox, Safe-T-Plus, or Roadmaster, etc., should offer an improvement in steering control.
The last two also include a self-centering spring, but cost considerably more. The advantage is additional control in the event of a sudden tire blow-out.
None of these are going to turn your RV into a Ferrari, but will have incremental improvement in handling at a low cost.
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05-06-2020, 11:09 AM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Freedom Traveller A27
State: North Carolina
Posts: 2,396
THOR #17765
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My 2019 Ford F53 chassis didn’t not come with a stabilizer. It had a sway bar which I tightened, both front & rear (the CHF).
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05-06-2020, 01:21 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Forest River Forester 235
State: Indiana
Posts: 4,883
THOR #6826
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jimbo56
My 2019 Ford F53 chassis didn’t not come with a stabilizer. It had a sway bar which I tightened, both front & rear (the CHF).
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Ford E series chassis have a tiny damper on the tie rod. F-53 doesn’t. It is well worth adding in my opinion. I think it makes it less tiring to drive. They tout the value in a blowout situation but I think a much more likely scenario is dropping a front tire off the edge of the pavement. Before I added my Roadmaster I was on a two lane road and a young woman coming toward me was on her cell phone and wandered into my lane. In avoiding a collision I swerved on to a shoulder (of sorts) that had a small drop off. There were a few moments of total terror while I tried to keep my machine under control. Fortunately I’ve not had to test he effectiveness of the damper in a similar situation but if it helps even a little it is worth the $400 cost.
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05-06-2020, 01:29 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: 2019 Vegas 24.1
State: Florida
Posts: 163
THOR #17456
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Learned something new!
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Originally Posted by Jimbo56
My 2019 Ford F53 chassis didn’t not come with a stabilizer. It had a sway bar which I tightened, both front & rear (the CHF).
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I did not know that! It's good reference if any friends ask me.
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05-07-2020, 04:10 PM
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Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Vegas
State: Texas
Posts: 66
THOR #10201
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Some of our mods
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05-07-2020, 04:23 PM
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Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Vegas
State: Texas
Posts: 66
THOR #10201
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More mods
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05-08-2020, 10:42 AM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Freedom Traveller A27
State: North Carolina
Posts: 2,396
THOR #17765
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I also added a steering stabilizer, had alignment done ,loaded, and front wheels balanced. Made a world of difference. Tracks true. No longer sways when passed by trucks. Feels much more solid on 2 lane roads. Less fatigue.
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08-18-2020, 03:15 PM
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Junior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Vegas 24.1
State: Florida
Posts: 10
THOR #20120
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Anyone know what part numbers are for the 2020 E450 Vegas 24.1, are they the same as 2019? That is highest year I can find.
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08-18-2020, 03:30 PM
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Junior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Ace 27.7
State: Indiana
Posts: 29
THOR #15856
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Quote:
Originally Posted by chickon1
Anyone know what part numbers are for the 2020 E450 Vegas 24.1, are they the same as 2019? That is highest year I can find.
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Just call customer service and get the correct part numbers
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08-18-2020, 08:25 PM
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#76
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Vegas 24.1
State: Michigan
Posts: 106
THOR #17787
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You sure it’s a E450? I have a 2020 24.1 and the chassis is E350.
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Aviator, trailblazer, last of the big spenders, father of dragons, RV newbie
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08-19-2020, 02:51 AM
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#77
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
State: California
Posts: 871
THOR #17478
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I putting on a Safe-T-Plus and you still get pushed hard, you may need a beefy front and perhaps rear anti sway bar. Roadmaster makes a good one. Easy enough to install.
Make sure you have your rig weighed and adjust the tire pressure according to the tire manufactures load/pressure chart. You would be surprised on how much incorrect tire pressure will allow your rig to be pushed.
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08-20-2020, 08:01 PM
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#78
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Vegas 24.1
State: Michigan
Posts: 106
THOR #17787
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Agree - my Safe-T-Plus does little to stop lateral movement. A Helwig front sway improved it a bit. Up until the point it began to fall off - nice job on that General RV...
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Aviator, trailblazer, last of the big spenders, father of dragons, RV newbie
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