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Old 04-17-2021, 08:10 PM   #21
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7 days camping using stove, water heater and fridge and we only used 2.5 lbs propane
Yes it is pretty small. I know some have problems with propane absorption fridges, particularly in hot climates. But i don't dry camp in hot weather and have never had a problem with them.

DC fridges on the other hand, consume 50-75 amp hour daily, which when dry camping will take either lots of solar panels (and no shade) or hours of generator running to replace.

Glad I got an absorption fridge on our new Axis.

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Old 04-19-2021, 03:27 PM   #22
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My fridge has a sticker right inside the door that says it draws 300W. You should have a sticker or plate somewhere with similar info. Or maybe it's in an owner's manual. That vital information to know.

I have two 195W solar panels and a bank of four 100Ah AGM batteries. Just bought four more 250W solar panels. I also have a 400W wind turbine and am awaiting delivery on 540W more of mini turbines. In all, I will be able to generate 2.33kW in ideal conditions.
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Old 04-19-2021, 04:42 PM   #23
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Yes it is pretty small. I know some have problems with propane absorption fridges, particularly in hot climates. But i don't dry camp in hot weather and have never had a problem with them.

DC fridges on the other hand, consume 50-75 amp hour daily, which when dry camping will take either lots of solar panels (and no shade) or hours of generator running to replace.

Glad I got an absorption fridge on our new Axis.

David

Compressor fridge load of 50~75 Amp-hours is under 1 kWh daily, which would only take 30 minutes of generator time daily on average if charging at 2 kW rate, and 20 minutes at 3 kW rate. Obviously, the initial issue is that most motorhomes can’t charge at that rate due to limited converter capacity and also that “normal” batteries can’t accept charge that fast.

Lots of solar is one solution, but requires parking/camping in sun, limited capacity in winter, etc.

An option to solar for those who want residential fridges is to have a high-capacity converter, and charging a larger lithium battery bank so that 2~3 kW of battery charging can be accomplished when powered by 4,000-Watt Onan generator.

Setting other smaller loads aside, an hour of generator run time every 2 to 3 days is all that’s required. I personally think that’s the direction the industry is headed short-term, but requires moving past 12V systems. And that’s not as difficult as it sounds.

There are now inverter/chargers with converter capacity that can exceed generator power, so it should be possible to run a generator fully loaded for much shorter period to charge battery bank. That should save fuel also. I would prefer that over a roof full of solar panels, or a propane/absorption fridge.

Propane is no doubt cheapest, easiest, and most efficient way to power a fridge, but I still want a 12V (or 48V) fridge in my next motorhome even if it doesn’t make as much sense.
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Old 04-19-2021, 04:52 PM   #24
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Wow, lots of potential wind turbine energy. But when I evaluated them for cruising boats at anchor, it took 15 kits of wind to produce meaningful power. If it gets to 15 it’s while I am camping, I am leaving.

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Old 04-19-2021, 05:26 PM   #25
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Regarding residential fridge in an RV...
I see many 40’ DPs running a Honda 2000 7am-10pm while dry camping.
It’s just much easier and quieter for a big-guy.
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thanks all the solar has been working great and used 180w and Kurt changed to 20 amp from 10 amp and completely removed the gopro solar connection...he left the box but does nothing. he set everything up as auto under the sink near the front door. here is a battery pic not plugged in at all no gene
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thanks all the solar has been working great and used 180w and Kurt changed to 20 amp from 10 amp and completely removed the gopro solar connection...he left the box but does nothing. he set everything up as auto under the sink near the front door. here is a battery pic not plugged in at all no gene
So have you got Kurt on retainer now?
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Old 05-27-2021, 06:57 PM   #28
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funny he never turns people away and now his son works with him.

he fixed someones roof. amazing
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