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Old 04-19-2018, 09:52 PM   #1
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2 inch risers

Supposed to pick up new 17 Ford F-350 tomorrow, I have the 2 inch risers, is that enough for the new fords?

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Old 04-20-2018, 12:52 AM   #2
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With my '17 450/'15RSSA, I have enough clearance to get along just fine. Only problem so far has been in severe, sharp hills where the pickup bed starts angling upward--it will hit the bottom of the trailer below the bedroom if the angle is too sharp. No risers. With the risers, I would think you will be fine.
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Old 04-20-2018, 01:11 AM   #3
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Congrats on the new truck. I have the 2" risers and mine is pretty close to level. The only issue I'm dealing with is the rear of the pin box scraping my tonneau cover rails (which mount on the inside of the bed rail) while making sharp maneuvers in reverse. I need to try some different combinations of hitch height and pin box adjustment.

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Old 04-20-2018, 01:29 AM   #4
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FWIW,
I just used a sawzall to cut a 45d angle off the flange on the rear of the pin box plate that causes most of the interference. Had a lot of discussion with other owners and opinions range from "don't do it" to "why would it weaken the plate?"
On my last Suites, I cut 2" back and towed for several years with no problems.
I know Morryde/Lippert won't/can't say to do it, and I am not an engineer, but just can't see where such a small metal removal would cause a problem.
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Old 04-20-2018, 01:34 AM   #5
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I'm sure that's where I'll end up going once I find out which combination will require the least amount of trimming.

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Old 04-20-2018, 12:56 PM   #6
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Wow! It sounds like it might be a major issue, even with the risers! Making my decision tougher now, was hoping to hear better news.
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Old 04-20-2018, 01:16 PM   #7
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I've had mine for almost a year and probably 7k miles towing. The only time I normally have an issue is manuevering in reverse into a tight spot. It would be nice to not have to worry about it, but for now I just keep an eye on it in those tight turns. My tonneau rails mount inside of the bed rail and are at least 2" wide. If I were to remove them, I may not have an issue.
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Old 04-20-2018, 01:27 PM   #8
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Just don't want to make an expensive mistake, I only drove my 18 38rssa a few times with my 15 ford, and it looked like it could have hit my top of tonneau rail too.
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Old 04-20-2018, 04:05 PM   #9
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FWIW,
I just used a sawzall to cut a 45d angle off the flange on the rear of the pin box plate that causes most of the interference. Had a lot of discussion with other owners and opinions range from "don't do it" to "why would it weaken the plate?"
On my last Suites, I cut 2" back and towed for several years with no problems.
I know Morryde/Lippert won't/can't say to do it, and I am not an engineer, but just can't see where such a small metal removal would cause a problem.
On my current trailer I used a porta-band to do the same. Everything behind the last bolt is fluff, doesn't add any strength.
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Old 04-20-2018, 04:06 PM   #10
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I'm still wondering why the 2" riser is an extra cost option. If you have MOR/ryde IS installed after the fact, MOR/ryde builds up the frame as needed to match your truck, and that is included in the price.
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Old 04-20-2018, 05:46 PM   #11
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Risers are like anything else--if it can be called an 'option' and can be charged extra for, it will be. How about the 'forced options'? Somehow, the buying public will pay for an 'option' and not care about, but dislike the cost if added into the MSRP....
Before long, the risers will have to be on just about every DRV frame and then they can brag about 17" or 18" frames, instead of the 15' now standard.
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Old 04-23-2018, 02:43 AM   #12
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2013 RAM 3500 long box with B&W Companion 3600. Absolutely no clearance issues. Bags of clearance without 2" risers. Sounds like the Fords have issues.
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Old 04-23-2018, 02:02 PM   #13
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I think every mfg went from the previous standard bed depth of 19" to somewhere above 21"--therein lies the problem. Raising a hitch to max height may help, but might cause nose-high towing or interference when trying to close a bed cover.
I am very close to hitting on my '17 in tight turns--having risers would have helped, but I bought used. Might have to make a trip to Morryde in the fall.
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Old 04-23-2018, 04:35 PM   #14
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2013 RAM 3500 long box with B&W Companion 3600. Absolutely no clearance issues. Bags of clearance without 2" risers. Sounds like the Fords have issues.

6" bed clearance with combo on LEVEL ground your RV will be 4-6" higher in the front compared to the rear WITHOUT risers.

This pic is without 3" risers added to get my RV level. My RAM sets 55" top of bed to ground at back corner.

16 and older Ford's did NOT need the risers as they sat much lower than GM and RAM. Now that all set high and DO need risers to have RV ride level.

Front to ground 24" and rear 18" in pic. Really does not look that much but the tape does NOT lie. MORryde added 3" risers to get me level.

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Old 04-23-2018, 04:54 PM   #15
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I think every mfg went from the previous standard bed depth of 19" to somewhere above 21"--therein lies the problem. Raising a hitch to max height may help, but might cause nose-high towing or interference when trying to close a bed cover.
I am very close to hitting on my '17 in tight turns--having risers would have helped, but I bought used. Might have to make a trip to Morryde in the fall.
I agree totally with Joe here, we owned an '06 RAM before buying the '15. I had NO issues with height or bed clearance with the '06 but that changed when we hooked up with the 2015 RAM, I had to raise the hitch to get the proper bed clearance I needed/wanted causing us to tow nose high. We made the "pilgrimage" to MORryde in July of 2016 and had the 2" risers installed. When we purchased our DRV I was not even aware of the 2" riser option.

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Old 04-24-2018, 12:58 PM   #16
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FWIW,
I just used a sawzall to cut a 45d angle off the flange on the rear of the pin box plate that causes most of the interference. Had a lot of discussion with other owners and opinions range from "don't do it" to "why would it weaken the plate?"
On my last Suites, I cut 2" back and towed for several years with no problems.
I know Morryde/Lippert won't/can't say to do it, and I am not an engineer, but just can't see where such a small metal removal would cause a problem.
For those that trimmed the flange, can you post a close-up picture or two clearly showing the trimmed portion of the flange?
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Old 04-25-2018, 02:44 AM   #17
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2013 RAM 3500 long box with B&W Companion 3600. Absolutely no clearance issues. Bags of clearance without 2" risers. Sounds like the Fords have issues.
I have a 2015 Ram and had 2 inch risers installed on my MS. I think 2013 was the new body style also. You might be towing a little nose high.
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Old 04-25-2018, 02:34 PM   #18
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Seems that most people that have risers added get a 3" tube added.
And from the factory the only option is a 2" tube.

FWIIW, when I had IS installed on our current trailer and matched to my always level 2011 Ford (air rid rear suspension), MR used a 4" tube to set the height.
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