Chassis/frame

[Ag&Au]

Originally Posted by Travelin' Texans

Thor owns a bushel basket heaping full of every type/brand of rv on the market not just motorhomes.

Definitely True. They made my Airstream trailer.

Check this out to see them (may not even be up to date, they just bought Jayco)

https://www.thorindustries.com/lets-...ands-rvs-thor/

If that's boring here's a cat pooping on a mole. or maybe peeing, its hard to tell.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dOZxuXyeTEo

Everyone likes to think they made the best decisions. Therefore it's perfectly natural to think one's truck is the best. That makes it best for you.


Ken

[Ace30.2]

Originally Posted by Travelin' Texans

Thor owns a bushel basket heaping full of every type/brand of rv on the market not just motorhomes.

How many trucks does Thor make?

[GeorgiaHybrid]

Originally Posted by Cummins12V98

Well I guess i'll bite. McDonalds?

If you want to talk trucks that are used by RV haulers and hotshotters RAM has a HUGE advantage. Full timers the numbers are very different with RAM and GM being ahead of Ford. When I first joined Suites Owners web site in 2011 there were very few GM's or RAM's and mostly F450's those numbers have reversed.

Every comment can be taken differently. Is your credibility compromised now?

Cummins, the reason you see so many hotshotters run a RAM is they are CHEAPER. They will generally wear our a pickup within 1 to 2 years and go buy another one. Any of the newer pickups are comparable in ability and with a hotshotter, cost is all they care about If they can get a Ford cheaper, that is what they will run. Same thing for a GMC product.

Where you live is also a deciding factor. Was in Kilgore, TX several times in the past few months staying in a hotel with a BUNCH of oilfield guys. The parking lot was full of diesel Fords with ONE lone Ram truck. That ratio stays true in most places here in the southeast. Ask around on a job site and see the answers you get, it might surprise you.

The guys working construction will give you an honest answer of a trucks capability under some very rough conditions of mud, heavy loads and wear and tear.

I have been in the Washington Tri Cities area and there, GM trucks seem predominate as they like a smooth ride and think that Chevy and GMC do a better job. My BIL lives outside of Detroit and drives a Ram. They offer discounts to former/current firemen, EMT's and cops so guess why he drives a Ram? Cost.

A Ram truck is not a be all, end all and neither is a Ford or a GMC. Each individual has a preference for what they look for in a truck. Some people are Ford enthusiasts, others Ram, still others GMC (Where are the Toyota and Nissan folks?).

The "Ram is stronger, more capable, better hauler" in every post you make is getting old. From my viewpoint, I could pull two of your Rams and your trailers around behind me and not know they were there. Different type and style of truck from yours and that is fine, it fits MY requirements in a truck.

Others will prefer a medium duty Freightliner, international, Pete or KW instead of a HDT or a LDT as that will fit their requirements better.

[JamieGeek]

Speaking of the Nissan Titan: You can now get a Cummins Diesel in one:
2016 Nissan Titan XD Test – Review – Car and Driver

Although the Titan fits more in the 1/2 ton class of trucks than the heavy duty ones.

[Porkchop]

Cheaper is also why you see so many Volvos on the road and converted for rv hauling. Not because they are better, just cheaper. All a Volvo is, is a GMC Astro remake.
Nothing wrong with my cred. I tend to use facts not emotion in my reasoning.
By the way cummins, where do you get all these stats about which group owns what type of veh? Published anywhere? Or just looking at tea leaves?

Bill

Bill

[Cummins12V98]

I should have been MORE clear. I am talking independently owned RV haulers and Hotshotters. I did a survey that is undeniable when I left SoCal in May to go to the DRV factory. We traveled along one of the main routes they travel. NOT counting big company trucks. The RAM's far outnumbered the GM's and fords. I quit counting when coming into Elkhart since it would have been easy to duplicate a truck. The interesting fact is most of the Fords were 7.3's. I only counted trucks with DOT numbers. RAM's are not cheaper but they are the only one to offer a 6sp manual trans. Now that they have the Aisin (a true MD transmission) they are going to that trans with good results.

When the money is coming out of the independently owned pocket they want something that lasts for one but also is easiest to work on if needed.

Same has been happening in the full timers groups.

[Travelin' Texans]

Most of those oilfield guys are driving Fords for only one reason, that's what the company leases/furnishes because they lease them very cheap, I know because I was one of those guys that had a Ford for 30+ years & fortunately didn't have to buy then & wouldn't ever own now. The ride, handling, mpg, reliability, & longevity was very poor in my opinion. Just my .02 cents!!

[Travelin' Texans]

Originally Posted by Ace30.2

How many trucks does Thor make?

None, but what does have to do with anything? There are lots of trucks of every brand pulling Thor products of every brand!!!

[RustyJC]

Well, if nothing else a brand war has generated a lot more posts than this forum has seen in a long time.

Rusty

[Ag&Au]

If you want to read truck arguments that go on and on and on, ad nauseum, with no one ever conceding, go visit AirForums (Airstream Trailer Forum) link on bottom right of this page. However please don't bring any of it back here, it gets very boring and annoying. If you want somewhat objective truck opinions don't look for them on forums. Nearly every single member owns the very best one. If you still want more. Check out Airforums' "Which Hitch Is Best" threads.

Ken

[JBurg]

Originally Posted by RustyJC

Well, if nothing else a brand war has generated a lot more posts than this forum has seen in a long time.

Rusty

Hahaha! I was reading this thread, watching it get derailed more and more, wondering if it will ever get back to frames.

Myself, I'm a pretty big fan of the trellis frame commonly used by Ducati. Their engineering is fantastic, as the XDiavel is still incredibly agile and flickable despite being a cruiser with a huge rear tire. Not that the other manufacturers haven't done their homework though, but there's just something about that trellis frame that stands out.

Wait, where am I?!?!

[Cummins12V98]

Originally Posted by JBurg

Hahaha! I was reading this thread, watching it get derailed more and more, wondering if it will ever get back to frames.

Myself, I'm a pretty big fan of the trellis frame commonly used by Ducati. Their engineering is fantastic, as the XDiavel is still incredibly agile and flickable despite being a cruiser with a huge rear tire. Not that the other manufacturers haven't done their homework though, but there's just something about that trellis frame that stands out.

Wait, where am I?!?!

I got a closer look at my MC frame when I removed the tires and wheels for tire replacement.

I did discover it does not have a 15" stacked box frame.

[JBurg]

Originally Posted by Cummins12V98

I did discover it does not have a 15" stacked box frame.

I just laughed out loud.

[Cummins12V98]

Originally Posted by JBurg

I just laughed out loud.

Awesome!

Hey come to NW WA pick up my bike and take it to SoCal for me.

[JBurg]

Originally Posted by Cummins12V98

Awesome!

Hey come to NW WA pick up my bike and take it to SoCal for me.

Hmmmm. I'm in south central Oregon right now, and will be headed to Lake Havasu in November, so technically this would be feasible. Not sure that three bikes will fit in our trailer though

[Gottogo]

Cummins as stated before not all things seem to be the same, check out the ford in the picture it sits level as level can be. Oh, the DRV in the is 41ft just a tad more in weight than your 39ft.

[Cummins12V98]

Originally Posted by Gottogo

Cummins as stated before not all things seem to be the same, check out the ford in the picture it sits level as level can be. Oh, the DRV in the is 41ft just a tad more in weight than your 39ft.

Mine weighs 23K with two axles. Can't tell but I am guessing you have 3 axles? If so I am guessing less pin than my 5,800# with rear axle weight of 9,800#.

I am just reporting that every F350/450 at DRV had bags. I am betting the 17's will be different.

Your rig looks like it's setting just right!

[oldbird]

I still like my 20 year old 7.3 dually that I have used for twelve years now. I have modded it to pull just as good as the new ones! Note that I said 'I work on it', with the new ones people are at the mercy of rip offs when stalled on the side of the road. That was a little bit of bragging but as I approach 70 my ability to work on them is fading fast. I get compliments all the time on my 'old' pickup and lots of offers of trading, lol.


Edit: offers from owners of newer pickups.

[Cummins12V98]

Originally Posted by oldbird

I still like my 20 year old 7.3 dually that I have used for twelve years now. I have modded it to pull just as good as the new ones! Note that I said 'I work on it', with the new ones people are at the mercy of rip offs when stalled on the side of the road. That was a little bit of bragging but as I approach 70 my ability to work on them is fading fast. I get compliments all the time on my 'old' pickup and lots of offers of trading, lol.


Edit: offers from owners of newer pickups.

The 7.3's are very desirable as seen in my survey of RV and HotShot haulers.

[oldbird]

Originally Posted by Cummins12V98

The 7.3's are very desirable as seen in my survey of RV and HotShot haulers.

I would like to read the survey, where can I find it?