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Old 06-20-2020, 03:36 PM   #1
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Hitch pondering

Hello experts.....here to pick your collective brains !

We have been FT in a 2017 Tradition for a year now in prep for retirement. Initially I had no truck when I purchased the trailer and had it moved to the park close to my work. Just bought my truck Ď20 Ram 3500 DRW 8ft bed. I havenít purchased a hitch or bed cover yet.....hence the questions.

I am fairly sure Iím going to get the Pace Edwards Bedlocker cover. I have initially been leaning towards the Trailersaver Hitch....not sure which exact model yet...or the Airsafe hitch. The truck has the puck system....so Iíve also considered a much less expensive Curt/B&W/Reese etc that will pop right in...kind of hard to ignore the savings in cost and ease of installation.

So hereís my concerns.....if I pick one of the two air cushioned hitches...obviously with an adapter for the puck mount will the bed cover still clear the hitch? Does anyone have first hand experience with this? Having sold our sticks/bricks over a year ago, I will have nowhere to really store the hitch so it will be in the truck all the time.
I assume the ready for puck hitches donít sit as high...maybe Iím wrong...not sure. But if they do, obviously theyíd be more likely to not interfere with the bed cover....but that brings into question if I need that extra height to clear the bed rails.......

Iím hoping the collective wisdom here can help me make these relatively expensive decisions with some guidance..

Thanks!!
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Old 06-20-2020, 03:46 PM   #2
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We have a 2018 Ram 3500 DRW 8ft bed that came with the Ram "Curt" 30K hitch. We pull a late model Mobile Suites. The Hitch works great and for me having the ability to remove it is a benefit as we still have a couple years before we hit the rd full time. I'm not going to use a bed cover dealt with them in the past on other trucks and find them to be a pain, plus I plan on installing a combination tool box/fuel tank in the front of the bed.
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Old 06-20-2020, 03:58 PM   #3
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The odds of someone here having the same truck, same hitch options or same bed cover are slight.
I will say we fulltimed for 10+ years with the last 6 using the B&W companion hitch. It worked great, had plenty of adjustments to get to the perfect setup, fairly easily removed, & hitchable/unhitchable at most any angle.
I don't have any experience with any of the cushioned hitches as my 5er had the hitch with the shock/airbag, TrailAir Flex Air, that also worked well once the perfect air pressure was figured out.
As for always being in the bed it's heavy enough that no one is going to easily carry it off out of your truck like one of those pyramid lightweight aluminum hitches if that's a concern.
The bed cover, if it sits below inside the bed rails it will affect the turning radius by making the bed rails more narrow so watch for that. If it sits on the bed rails the clearance for the fifth wheel will be affected by a couple inches which in turn could affect getting the 5er to hook up level & still have proper clearance.
Good luck & enjoy your full-time experience!
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Old 06-20-2020, 03:58 PM   #4
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Definitely will be doing the bed cover. We will need the secure storage for various things. I like the bedlocker will lock at any point in retraction.
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Old 06-20-2020, 04:06 PM   #5
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Yes....of all the secure roll up hard covers Iíve viewed online, the bedlocker appears to be the lowest profile in relation to the bed rails.
I realize that itís unrealistic to think someone on here will have the exact same setup. But....that said I think that there could be a decent chance someone would have the bedcover/hitch combo....and providing similar bed side heights you could determine if the cover clears....

I gave the truck specifics because I figure Iím not the only one who has pondered choosing between the expensive air hitch....and the convenient puck mount hitch.

Not worried about someone stealing the hitch, but would need it to fit under the bed cover when not towing...

We have the air ride pinbox as well..
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Old 06-20-2020, 04:46 PM   #6
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Here is what I use. Stay away from CURT, one reason is it's Made in Communist China if that matters to you. They don't unhitch on slopes with RV and truck in different planes very easily. They have a IMHO cheap locking system with a flimsy lock and colored system. I tow heavier than most at 24-25k with this B&W along with the TrailAire air bag TriGlide system. Not available but the FlexAire would be a good choice for your lighter RV.

B&W is 100% Made In USA with a simple solid latching system and there is NO question if you are hitched or not. Close and lock handle and LOOK to see the 1" machined jaws are surrounding the kingpin and the mating plates are touching and there is no question if you are hitched.

Notice the B&W's head pivot point is at the height of the kingpin. Notice the CURT is several inches below and is known for causing fore and aft movement as in "CHUCKING".




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Old 06-20-2020, 05:08 PM   #7
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I also run the B&W hitch in my Ram with the puck system. This is a beefy hitch. YouR rig maybe nose high. Do you know if your rig has risers? I would think not, but worth an ask. Did you opt for the rear air ride suspension?
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Old 06-20-2020, 06:04 PM   #8
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I did opt for the factory air suspension....and that trail air pin box looks very similar if not exactly like mine. I donít know for sure if the previous owner put risers on the trailer....but I really doubt it (need to bend my creaking knees and investigate).....so does anyone have an opinion of that B&W fitting under a solid roll cover?
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Old 06-20-2020, 06:06 PM   #9
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Definitely like the simplicity of that puck mount B&W...
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Old 06-20-2020, 07:17 PM   #10
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YES it will fit. My B&W sets at 18" to top plate above the bed. My bed rails are 21.5" above bed.
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Old 06-20-2020, 07:38 PM   #11
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Thanks! Nice to know! And after looking on e-trailerís website, several customer photos show it with a cover installed.

Iíve pondered on this at some length. Knowing the point of having a truck with the built in pucks is to simplify the hitch process. And it takes up less space than having to use an adapter etc. so why complicate it? Not to mention that itís considerably cheaper.

Iíve no doubt the air-ride hitches are super smooth...but it seems that a very many people are happy with their non-air cushioned....so.....there it is!
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Old 06-22-2020, 01:49 PM   #12
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So hereís my concerns.....if I pick one of the two air cushioned hitches...obviously with an adapter for the puck mount will the bed cover still clear the hitch?
Even if you find someone with the same truck trailer and hitch you want, it still may be a 'take a chance and try'.

That said, I have a 2011 F-350 with a TruckCovers USA roller cover and trailer saver ts-3 hitch using a trailer saver picture frame puck adapter.

I have the hitch height set at the standard height.
At that setting is is a bit low for the trailer to have proper clearance, but the trailer is near level when towing.

At that height setting the cover rubs along the top of the hitch when I open and close it. I also had to cut grooves in the rear edge of the cover for it to clear the hitch.
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Old 06-22-2020, 01:55 PM   #13
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Youíre absolutely correct in that itís a trial and error no matter what.....I think Iím going to give the B&W companion a try.....
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Old 06-22-2020, 11:25 PM   #14
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YES it will fit. My B&W sets at 18" to top plate above the bed. My bed rails are 21.5" above bed.
You also have 3Ē risers if I remember correctly. I would suspect that he does not have any risers.
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Old 06-22-2020, 11:37 PM   #15
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Am I correct in my assumption that the ďrisersĒ that you refer to are on the trailer?
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Old 06-23-2020, 03:07 AM   #16
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Am I correct in my assumption that the “risers” that you refer to are on the trailer?
Yes, risers are when they add another tube of steel to the frame. I had them add 2’ steel tubes to my frame, 2” risers. This is to make sure that you are towing level and not nose high. This is very important for two main reasons. Gives you even bedrail clearance and distributes the weight of your rig properly. These newer trucks have been getting taller over the past 8 years. And the RV manufactures have not taken notice of it, so it is buyer beware.
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Old 06-23-2020, 03:25 AM   #17
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You also have 3” risers if I remember correctly. I would suspect that he does not have any risers.
It is all about the height of the PinBox. Yes 3"

Is your hitch at the lowest setting?
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It is all about the height of the PinBox. Yes 3"

Is your hitch at the lowest setting?
I think Iím one from the bottom on mine.
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Old 06-23-2020, 11:38 AM   #19
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The risers....which Iíll likely need once I get the hitch in....I had mistakenly thought that they were spacers that would fit between the axle and the spring mounts.... or the shackles....or something suspension-wise much like they used to do for off roading..... but this is not correct? I havenít even tried to google it yet.. so being a little lazy! But getting the info from real people with experience fits better sometimes..... what risers have yíall used.... and are there owner installable??
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The risers....which Iíll likely need once I get the hitch in....I had mistakenly thought that they were spacers that would fit between the axle and the spring mounts.... or the shackles....or something suspension-wise much like they used to do for off roading..... but this is not correct? I havenít even tried to google it yet.. so being a little lazy! But getting the info from real people with experience fits better sometimes..... what risers have yíall used.... and are there owner installable??
I am fairly certain you have a standard sprung suspension. Most DRV's have the MORryde IS independent suspension.

I would get it hooked up and see what needs to be adjusted if anything. Run your truck in ALT ride position as this will keep the rear of the truck as low as possible.

On the hitch, mount head supports full forward and have the straight edge towards the cab.
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