Morryde and other mods

Stickbender · 03-01-2016, 03:06 AM

Planning a trip to Mor-ryde in fall to have 2" lift to rig to help level out my rig. Has anyone done more than 2" or less for that matter? Wondered if they actually determine amount to level rig or just go with normal 2" lift?
Also was thinking of getting dinette table modified to add a leaf for more room when we have guest over. Was wondering if anyone had anything like this done if so where did you go?

rynosback · 03-01-2016, 06:21 AM

Talk to the service department about what they recommend. I think 2 inches is pretty standard. And depending on what hitch you are using, you can adjust the height on it.
What truck and specs of it are you driving? The 2 inch risers work GREAT With my 2015 Ram.

Stickbender · 03-01-2016, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by rynosback

Talk to the service department about what they recommend. I think 2 inches is pretty standard. And depending on what hitch you are using, you can adjust the height on it.
What truck and specs of it are you driving? The 2 inch risers work GREAT With my 2015 Ram.

I'm pulling with a 2015 Ram 3500 4x4 and a B&W 3600 hitch, which is lowered to lowest setting.

Cummins12V98 · 03-01-2016, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Stickbender

I'm pulling with a 2015 Ram 3500 4x4 and a B&W 3600 hitch, which is lowered to lowest setting.

What is your pin box?

I have the TrailAire with TriGlide, B&W RVK3600 at lowest setting in my 15 RAM Dually. I will be having the 2" riser installed at MorRyde in May. I am sure my RV will still be nose high even after the 2" lift.

The reason is the TriGlide adds height. So I am willing to do a direct swap with someone that has the TrailAir air bag pin box that wants the TriGlide. Lower jaw for lower jaw. The right person will be getting a DEAL!!!

Stickbender · 03-01-2016, 02:35 PM

Same pin box as you. Maybe I should have went with the Mor-ryde pin box as well

dapperdan · 03-01-2016, 10:44 PM

We're going to MorRyde the third week of April for the risers, we have the MorRyde inbox now and I'm confident adding the 2" risers will do the trick for us.

We have the same truck as you, 2015 RAM 3500 4 X 4 DRW, same hitch as you!

Dan

Wildcats · 03-02-2016, 12:39 AM

Are there any options available to lower the truck two inches?

Cummins12V98 · 03-02-2016, 01:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Stickbender

Same pin box as you. Maybe I should have went with the Mor-ryde pin box as well

I would like to try a MorRyde pin box but I do KNOW the TrailAire air bag king pin REALLY does the job. The TriGlide does a good job but I really don't need it.

Stickbender · 03-02-2016, 01:41 AM

My truck is already lowered about 1.75"

rynosback · 03-02-2016, 06:25 AM

I have my B&W hitch I think at the highest or second to highest setting setting and tow level with my Ram. So 2 inches should be the sweet spot.

RustyJC · 03-02-2016, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Wildcats

Are there any options available to lower the truck two inches?

Well, one is to tow with a 2WD truck.

(Yeah, I know the later 2WD solid front axle Rams are as tall as the 4WD.)

Our MS has the 2" riser, and I tow level with a LOT of bedrail-to-overhang clearance.

Rusty

Wildcats · 03-03-2016, 02:25 AM

Curious to know if any of you have a late model Ram 3500 with the rear air leveling option? An earlier visit to the dealership with three two wheel drive 3500's next to each other, two with springs only, the other one with the rear air leveling appeared to set lower than the others? My earlier post about the option of a lowering kit for the truck was due to limited clearance in my shed and I was not wanting to raise the trailer. We are not full timers, YET. My thought is all the new 350's or 3500's look like they set up higher than they need to. Just not sure if a lowering kit is available for the truck and what that does to drive shaft angles.

RustyJC · 03-03-2016, 02:55 AM

Cummins12V98 has a 3500 with the rear air leveling system. You can wait until he sees your post or shoot him a pm.

Rusty

rynosback · 03-03-2016, 06:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Wildcats

Curious to know if any of you have a late model Ram 3500 with the rear air leveling option? An earlier visit to the dealership with three two wheel drive 3500's next to each other, two with springs only, the other one with the rear air leveling appeared to set lower than the others? My earlier post about the option of a lowering kit for the truck was due to limited clearance in my shed and I was not wanting to raise the trailer. We are not full timers, YET. My thought is all the new 350's or 3500's look like they set up higher than they need to. Just not sure if a lowering kit is available for the truck and what that does to drive shaft angles.

I think they might be set up higher because of the stiffer and bigger rear leafs. As the payload keeps going up as well as towing numbers.

As stated above Cummings has the new rear air set up. I was going to order it when I spaced the truck out, but if there is a leak anywhere, I'm screwed. As I full time and tow 99% of the time. So I went with the old school leaf and they are pretty bullet proof.

dapperdan · 03-03-2016, 12:30 PM

We have the factory rear air suspension. When set in "trailering mode" the rear drops approximately an inch, maybe an inch and a half but that's it. With the rear air suspension you don't get the "sag" associated with regular leaf suspension. Under a load, the truck will only drop ("sag") so much and that's it. Cummins can post a pic of his truck under load, he's MUCH heavier than I am and side by side our trucks would sit at the same level. I don't believe there's any way to lower the rear of the truck with the air suspension, maybe someone with more knowledge of air suspension systems can enlighten all of us.

We're going to MorRyde International in April because even with my truck in trailer mode I'm still nose high. Rynosback has the 2" risers and he's happy with the way his trailer tows, I'm sure once I get the risers installed we'll be in good shape as well. Looking forward to it anyway!

Dan

Cummins12V98 · 03-03-2016, 05:40 PM

IMHO the Factory rear air ride is the way to go. The ride is improved over the standard rear spring trucks. The rear air ride does sit lower than the regular, I leave mine in the Alt ride height ALL the time. I like the more level look.

Here are a couple pics, first is in alt ride mode without a load and the second has 9,580# sitting on the rear axle. As you can see the air bags keep the truck at the same stance with or without a load. Worth every penny! Even it there is some sort of failure the truck can still be driven with no problem until it's fixed.

Wildcats · 03-04-2016, 01:19 AM

What a great and very helpful forum, thanks for your help.

Looking at the ESTIMATED VALUES for a
2016, 3500 Crew cab, long box, 4X2, DRW, GCWR
3.42 gear at 29,300#
3.73 gear at 33,800#
4.10 gear at 39,100#
Empty truck weight at 7972#

I see some of you have the 4.10 gear. Could you of went with a 3.73?
Then the discussion 4X2 or 4X4? Just curious, thanks again for your help.

dapperdan · 03-04-2016, 02:39 AM

Hi Wild,
I went with the 3:73's, I thought about the 4:10's but for me 3:73 was all I felt I wanted/needed. It's really such a judgement call, your money, your preference. Same with the 4 X 4 vs 4 X 2. My old truck had 3:73's and it pulled the Suites just fine for me. The new RAM pulls the Suites even better! As far as 4 X 4 goes if I'm buying a truck I'm getting a four wheel drive, for me it's a "no brainer" just that simple.

Dan

RustyJC · 03-04-2016, 02:50 AM

I've been towing 5th wheels with Ram duallies since 1996. All have been 4x2 trucks. I've never needed 4 wheel drive, and the 4x2 Rams (at least until recently) have had real advantages for 5th wheel towing such as lower ride height, independent front suspension (better ride and handling, no "death wobble" problems), lighter weight for more payload and trailer towing capacity, etc. Now, if you live or will be traveling where you NEED 4x4 capabilities, then by all means get a 4x4 truck. For me, it's needless expense, weight and complexity. As the old saying goes, different horses for different courses.

When I purchase a truck, I order one with all the GVWR and GCWR I can get, knowing the next RV is always going to be heavier. That means 4.10 gears. With the 4.10s, 65 MPH in 6th gear is about 1750 RPM, so the truck downshifts less on grades than it would with the 3.73s. Plus, you have more launching torque available and lower driveline stresses at a given speed with the 4.10 gears. The 6-speed automatics (68RFE and Aisin) are double overdrive transmissions (4th is direct, 5th and 6th are both overdrives), so unlike the older trucks with single overdrive transmissions, the 4.10s are a good all-around gear for loaded and unloaded operation.

Rusty

rynosback · 03-04-2016, 06:24 AM

I bought a 4x2 because I do not plan on being back in snow, going off road or driving on a beach. I spent $3500 less and I am lighter so I can carry and tow more.

I was back and forth n the 373 vs 410 gears. I did a lot of reading on a cummins forum. The 410s seem to get the same mileage if not better in some cases. My truck is only used to tow my MS so I thought I would go with the strongest gears that I could get. Especially when you head out west to the real mountains. Not just will it pull better, but the exhaust brake will be stronger. Just do some reading and figure out what best suites your needs and expectations.

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