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01-30-2020, 06:02 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: DRV
Model: Mobile Suites 38rssa
State: Alaska
Posts: 253
THOR #8691
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New F 450
Thinking about trading my 17 F 350 for either a 19 or 20 F450, any thoughts?
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2017 F350 CC 4x4 DRW Lariat 4.10
2018 MS 38rssa
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01-30-2020, 07:21 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: DRV
Model: 39TKSB3 "Modified"
State: South Dakota
Posts: 1,837
THOR #1661
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They both are rated the same 14k GVWR.
Insurance and licensing may be more depending on your jurisdiction.
Your DRV is well within the ratings of your current 350. Is the truck lacking in some way?
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01-30-2020, 09:21 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: DRV
Model: 38RSSA
State: Maryland
Posts: 193
THOR #4040
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Love my F450
You just cannot beat the turning radius of the F450. It is great. I love mine.
Don
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2016 38RSSA FB Paint, induction cooktop, 3" Risers, solar, 4 batteries, Cheap Heat, MorRyde Steps
2017 F450 Lariat, CC, LB, 6.7, Chrome Pkg. Retrax, TS3 Hitch, 55g aux.tank, 200 psi air system
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01-30-2020, 11:26 PM
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Junior Member
Brand: DRV
State: California
Posts: 5
THOR #17807
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Quote:
Originally Posted by f350ms38rssa
Thinking about trading my 17 F 350 for either a 19 or 20 F450, any thoughts?
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I understand that the 2020 F350 (dually) and F450’s are a couple inches lower than the 2017-19’s.
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2018 Mobile Suites 38 RSSA, 2017 Ford F450 Lariat Ultimate
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01-31-2020, 12:06 AM
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Senior Member
Brand: DRV
Model: 38RSSA
State: Maryland
Posts: 193
THOR #4040
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2020 lower
Everything I have read is that the rear of the F450 is 1" lower. Lower is always better, however, my 2017 F450 has not presented any real problems. I did have 3" risers installed at Mor Ryde which probably did help a little.
Enjoy your F450. They are great trucks. You need to test drive one and check out the short turning radius.
Love mine.
Don
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2016 38RSSA FB Paint, induction cooktop, 3" Risers, solar, 4 batteries, Cheap Heat, MorRyde Steps
2017 F450 Lariat, CC, LB, 6.7, Chrome Pkg. Retrax, TS3 Hitch, 55g aux.tank, 200 psi air system
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01-31-2020, 01:19 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: DRV
Model: Mobile Suites 38rssa
State: Alaska
Posts: 253
THOR #8691
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I’ve been on the Ford forums, and as far as I can tell they dropped the rear height on everything but the F 450, which remained the same.
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2017 F350 CC 4x4 DRW Lariat 4.10
2018 MS 38rssa
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01-31-2020, 07:46 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: DRV
Model: 38RSSA
State: Maryland
Posts: 193
THOR #4040
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F450 4 x 2
For 2020 you can order a 4 X 2 in a F450. That is a lower truck all the way around. I am sure it will get better mileage as well.
Don
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2016 38RSSA FB Paint, induction cooktop, 3" Risers, solar, 4 batteries, Cheap Heat, MorRyde Steps
2017 F450 Lariat, CC, LB, 6.7, Chrome Pkg. Retrax, TS3 Hitch, 55g aux.tank, 200 psi air system
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02-03-2020, 01:49 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: DRV
Model: Mobile Suites 38rssa
State: Alaska
Posts: 253
THOR #8691
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Yea but resale value wouldn’t be as high on a 4x2.
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2018 MS 38rssa
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02-03-2020, 01:54 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: DRV
Model: 2019 MS 39DBRS3
State: Delaware
Posts: 554
THOR #9431
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DonandPatti
For 2020 you can order a 4 X 2 in a F450. That is a lower truck all the way around. I am sure it will get better mileage as well.
Don
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And probably ride better as well.
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Originally Posted by f350ms38rssa
Yea but resale value wouldn’t be as high on a 4x2.
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Only trade in value, resale - someone looking for a 2WD will pay what it is worth. Not everyone wants or needs 4WD.
That said, I’ve used either by choice or necessity 4WD enough times towing that I would order 4WD based on use and not resale, especially with the standard tires on the 450.
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02-04-2020, 12:03 AM
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Senior Member
Brand: DRV
Model: 38 RSB3
State: South Dakota
Posts: 2,280
THOR #1658
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Quote:
Originally Posted by f350ms38rssa
Yea but resale value wouldn’t be as high on a 4x2.
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I would say not, but you do not have to pay for the $3k plus option for 4x4. Plus you do not need to maintain a transfer case and a front axle. Because most full timers search for 70 degrees weather, is there a real need for it?
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2015 Ram 3500 Regular Cab DRW CTD Asian trans 410 rear
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02-04-2020, 12:15 AM
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Senior Member
Brand: DRV
Model: 38 RSB3
State: South Dakota
Posts: 2,280
THOR #1658
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Porthole
And probably ride better as well.
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I have a Ram 4x2. I do not think it rides any differently then a 4x4. I think the ground clearance is a little more in a 4x4 bs a 4x2.
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2016 DRV38RSB3
2015 Ram 3500 Regular Cab DRW CTD Asian trans 410 rear
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02-04-2020, 04:40 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: DRV
Model: 39TKSB3 "Modified"
State: South Dakota
Posts: 1,837
THOR #1661
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rynosback
I have a Ram 4x2. I do not think it rides any differently then a 4x4. I think the ground clearance is a little more in a 4x4 bs a 4x2.
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UH, I thought you said mine rode great?
When your wife calls and says the GPS took her the wrong was and she is stick the 4x4 option is worth EVERY $$$.
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02-04-2020, 04:50 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Chateau 31L
State: Florida
Posts: 2,063
THOR #12189
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cummins12V98
They both are rated the same 14k GVWR.
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Did you actually mean GCWR? Just asking because 4x4's usually have less GCWR (trailering weight) due to the added weight of the front axle and transfer case.
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02-04-2020, 05:40 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: DRV
Model: Mobile Suites 38rssa
State: Alaska
Posts: 253
THOR #8691
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Is anybody using a 17+ f 450 and only have the 2” risers on their DRV?
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2017 F350 CC 4x4 DRW Lariat 4.10
2018 MS 38rssa
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02-04-2020, 06:39 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: DRV
Model: 39TKSB3 "Modified"
State: South Dakota
Posts: 1,837
THOR #1661
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Quote:
Originally Posted by The_Breeze
Did you actually mean GCWR? Just asking because 4x4's usually have less GCWR (trailering weight) due to the added weight of the front axle and transfer case.
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Weight the truck can have on it's tires "GVWR" is 14k on modern 350, 450, 3500 DRW trucks. 2wd or 4wd.
Trailer weight is a towing number.
GCVWR is the weight of truck and towed combined.
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02-04-2020, 06:43 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: DRV
Model: 39TKSB3 "Modified"
State: South Dakota
Posts: 1,837
THOR #1661
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The newer generation of 350/450's ride higher and NEED the risers to have RV ride level or near so.
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02-04-2020, 11:02 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: DRV
Model: 38 RSB3
State: South Dakota
Posts: 2,280
THOR #1658
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cummins12V98
UH, I thought you said mine rode great?
When your wife calls and says the GPS took her the wrong was and she is stick the 4x4 option is worth EVERY $$$.
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It does, but I do not lower my air pressures and do not have the rear air ride. Your truck for a 3500 rides GREAT!
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2016 DRV38RSB3
2015 Ram 3500 Regular Cab DRW CTD Asian trans 410 rear
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02-05-2020, 02:49 AM
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Senior Member
Brand: DRV
State: Texas
Posts: 678
THOR #3109
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Quote:
Originally Posted by f350ms38rssa
Is anybody using a 17+ f 450 and only have the 2” risers on their DRV?
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I have a '17 450 and was towing a '15 38RSSA without the risers, and with a Retrax bed cover. After having contact with the cover rails (not the bed rail itself) I cut the flanges off the side plates on both sides and had no real problem after that. IF I backed up sharply off-level, it would come very close to hitting the cover rails. It towed about 1" nose-high.
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2016 Tiffin 40QBH
2015 38RSSA--traded
2005 36TK3--retired, but it was a good one
2017 F450 KR
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02-06-2020, 03:16 AM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Chateau 31L
State: Florida
Posts: 2,063
THOR #12189
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cummins12V98
Weight the truck can have on it's tires "GVWR" is 14k on modern 350, 450, 3500 DRW trucks. 2wd or 4wd.
Trailer weight is a towing number.
GCVWR is the weight of truck and towed combined.
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LOL. School's in session.
Seriously, thanks.
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02-06-2020, 04:17 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: DRV
State: South Dakota
Posts: 126
THOR #4935
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Quote:
Originally Posted by wingnut60
I have a '17 450 and was towing a '15 38RSSA without the risers, and with a Retrax bed cover. After having contact with the cover rails (not the bed rail itself) I cut the flanges off the side plates on both sides and had no real problem after that. IF I backed up sharply off-level, it would come very close to hitting the cover rails. It towed about 1" nose-high.
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I thought cutting those flanges off was a no-no? After hitting my head on the sharp edge punching a hole in my head I wanted to remove the whole thing!! A little off topic.
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