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Old 09-06-2020, 04:22 PM   #41
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That’s great, so it is a good time to get everything secured. 😀

True but too busy catching Crab, Shrimp and Salmon.

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Old 09-08-2020, 11:27 PM   #42
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Les said your rear end is moving all over the place also , you should have gone to his place 30 min earler on monday morning, i would have told you what i did to my rig. oh well, at least you waved at me as i was leaving.
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Old 09-08-2020, 11:55 PM   #43
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Les said your rear end is moving all over the place also , you should have gone to his place 30 min earler on monday morning, i would have told you what i did to my rig. oh well, at least you waved at me as i was leaving.
Which rear end did Les see moving of Ron’s? What did you have Les do for you?
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Old 09-09-2020, 01:22 PM   #44
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Les said your rear end is moving all over the place also , you should have gone to his place 30 min earler on monday morning, i would have told you what i did to my rig. oh well, at least you waved at me as i was leaving.
I'm bummed we didn't meet! Too darn buys having fun.

Hope your time at Les' place went well getting your front rams rebuilt.
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Old 09-13-2020, 10:27 PM   #45
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So as to rear ends, I think Ron should tell us. As far as to what I had Les do, I will report on that later.
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Old 09-14-2020, 02:57 AM   #46
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So as to rear ends, I think Ron should tell us. As far as to what I had Les do, I will report on that later.
Still just curious to what you had Les do...
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Old 09-14-2020, 04:33 PM   #47
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He should start a new thread about the process.
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Old 09-15-2020, 05:53 AM   #48
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He should start a new thread about the process.
He did.
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Old 03-12-2021, 03:51 PM   #49
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How did you pull it back in place we’ve noticed ours behind couch
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Old 03-12-2021, 06:24 PM   #50
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How did you pull it back in place we’ve noticed ours behind couch
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Old 03-14-2021, 07:21 PM   #51
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Angry End wall repairs

It is NOT rare. In fact, I have spoken to 6 different RV shops in IN, TX, OK, TN and they recount hundreds of repairs made over the last 2 years. I personally witnessed a 40KSSB4 in for repairs here in the Rio Grande Valley of Texas where the rear cap and endwall fell OFF going down the road.
Our 2016 40KSSB4 first started spitting screws in the trim end cap that covers the fiberglass end cap to sidewall joint in early 2017. We had the fifth-wheel in the DRV service center in Howe and the tech told me it was just road vibration and keep screwing the screws back in. I fought that battle with bent sheet metal, stripped screws etc until the techs here told me what was going on. We removed the rear window, then the fiberglass end cap and discovered that the end wall was attached to the side walls with 12 #6 screws through a 1" x 1 1/2" flimsy aluminum angle and every single screw was broken. The bottom plate of the end wall had been screwed to the edge of the plywood flooring in only 2 places and both screws were broken. The rear ends of both sidewalls were twisted and sheared. Literally, the only thing holding the end wall in place was 6 screws across the top plate of the wall. We added 2x2 angles bolted to the bottom plate of the wall and welded to the floor joist top chord. Them we replaced the flimsy angels with heavier larger angles and heli-arc welded them in place, NO SCREWS. The bottom plate of each sidewall was repaired by heli-arc welding.
Don't ley ANYONErell you this is not a common failure.
This is a systemic structural deficiency in EVERY DRV made and will manifest itself one way or another eventually.
Maybe ours showed up sooner than others because we are full-timers and travel across the US north to south and vice versa at least twice a year.
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Old 03-14-2021, 10:12 PM   #52
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It is NOT rare. In fact, I have spoken to 6 different RV shops in IN, TX, OK, TN and they recount hundreds of repairs made over the last 2 years. I personally witnessed a 40KSSB4 in for repairs here in the Rio Grande Valley of Texas where the rear cap and endwall fell OFF going down the road.
Our 2016 40KSSB4 first started spitting screws in the trim end cap that covers the fiberglass end cap to sidewall joint in early 2017. We had the fifth-wheel in the DRV service center in Howe and the tech told me it was just road vibration and keep screwing the screws back in. I fought that battle with bent sheet metal, stripped screws etc until the techs here told me what was going on. We removed the rear window, then the fiberglass end cap and discovered that the end wall was attached to the side walls with 12 #6 screws through a 1" x 1 1/2" flimsy aluminum angle and every single screw was broken. The bottom plate of the end wall had been screwed to the edge of the plywood flooring in only 2 places and both screws were broken. The rear ends of both sidewalls were twisted and sheared. Literally, the only thing holding the end wall in place was 6 screws across the top plate of the wall. We added 2x2 angles bolted to the bottom plate of the wall and welded to the floor joist top chord. Them we replaced the flimsy angels with heavier larger angles and heli-arc welded them in place, NO SCREWS. The bottom plate of each sidewall was repaired by heli-arc welding.
Don't ley ANYONErell you this is not a common failure.
This is a systemic structural deficiency in EVERY DRV made and will manifest itself one way or another eventually.
Maybe ours showed up sooner than others because we are full-timers and travel across the US north to south and vice versa at least twice a year.
My rear walls base plate was jus floating. There were two screws that were snapped off going across the base plate. You would think structurally they should be built the same way.
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Old 03-15-2021, 03:21 AM   #53
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It is NOT rare. In fact, I have spoken to 6 different RV shops in IN, TX, OK, TN and they recount hundreds of repairs made over the last 2 years. I personally witnessed a 40KSSB4 in for repairs here in the Rio Grande Valley of Texas where the rear cap and endwall fell OFF going down the road.
Our 2016 40KSSB4 first started spitting screws in the trim end cap that covers the fiberglass end cap to sidewall joint in early 2017. We had the fifth-wheel in the DRV service center in Howe and the tech told me it was just road vibration and keep screwing the screws back in. I fought that battle with bent sheet metal, stripped screws etc until the techs here told me what was going on. We removed the rear window, then the fiberglass end cap and discovered that the end wall was attached to the side walls with 12 #6 screws through a 1" x 1 1/2" flimsy aluminum angle and every single screw was broken. The bottom plate of the end wall had been screwed to the edge of the plywood flooring in only 2 places and both screws were broken. The rear ends of both sidewalls were twisted and sheared. Literally, the only thing holding the end wall in place was 6 screws across the top plate of the wall. We added 2x2 angles bolted to the bottom plate of the wall and welded to the floor joist top chord. Them we replaced the flimsy angels with heavier larger angles and heli-arc welded them in place, NO SCREWS. The bottom plate of each sidewall was repaired by heli-arc welding.
Don't ley ANYONErell you this is not a common failure.
This is a systemic structural deficiency in EVERY DRV made and will manifest itself one way or another eventually.
Maybe ours showed up sooner than others because we are full-timers and travel across the US north to south and vice versa at least twice a year.

I'm sorry to be nit-picky, but can you absolutely confirm that EVERY DRV has that problem?


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Old 03-15-2021, 03:20 PM   #54
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My self and two other 2016 DRV owners I personally know have a rear wall issue. My 07.5 MS had no issues other than random screws backing out over time over the whole unit.

Terry I think this started happening after your year DRV was made. I am sure Slade could shed light on this.
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Old 03-15-2021, 03:36 PM   #55
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I'm sorry to be nit-picky, but can you absolutely confirm that EVERY DRV has that problem?


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I can't confirm. But I can confirm on my many visits to the assembly line I've never seen any support on the ends of the frame for the rear cap.
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Old 03-17-2021, 06:47 PM   #56
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Angry End wall repairs

No, I can't honestly say that I know EVERY single DRV has this deficiency, but the number of responses I've seen here, on other forums and asking questions at 6 different DRV repair centers with at least a hundred repairs leads me to believe mine is not an isolated issue. It appears to be a serious design flaw, executed badly in construction. While I am not an RV design specialist, I am a Civil Engineer with 50 years of commercial building experience. Never in anyone's right mind would design a structural wall that is TOTALLY unsupported and attached with only #6 screws through a 1/16" thick aluminum angle. Aluminum has a place in construction but it's NOT for structural use.
DRV in Howe has essentially just given me the finger about accepting responsibility for their inadequacies, so it's game on. I will flood social media with this issue and make it my mission to discourage ANYONE from investing in their products.
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Old 03-17-2021, 07:49 PM   #57
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No, I can't honestly say that I know EVERY single DRV has this deficiency, but the number of responses I've seen here, on other forums and asking questions at 6 different DRV repair centers with at least a hundred repairs leads me to believe mine is not an isolated issue. It appears to be a serious design flaw, executed badly in construction. While I am not an RV design specialist, I am a Civil Engineer with 50 years of commercial building experience. Never in anyone's right mind would design a structural wall that is TOTALLY unsupported and attached with only #6 screws through a 1/16" thick aluminum angle. Aluminum has a place in construction but it's NOT for structural use.
DRV in Howe has essentially just given me the finger about accepting responsibility for their inadequacies, so it's game on. I will flood social media with this issue and make it my mission to discourage ANYONE from investing in their products.
Good

Are you on facebunk as well?
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Old 03-17-2021, 08:27 PM   #58
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I guess that I am one of the lucky one’s, by not having any of the issues that some of you have. My 2017 36RSSB3 has had a few minor issues that were handled by DRV, either by sending me parts or reimbursement. I have personally inspected my rear cap and it is not loose; the corner caulk is not even cracked. I would buy DRV again, but probably not in my lifetime. My last RV was over 20 years old when I sold it for this one; it still looked new.
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Old 03-18-2021, 04:48 PM   #59
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clev how many miles on your rig?
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Probably about 25k. We took delivery in AR in December, 2016. Since then, from south, central TX: east coast and Key West (2 separate trips), NV, MT, WY, CO, ...... we usually get 2-4 trips a year.
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