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09-06-2020, 04:22 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: DRV
Model: 39TKSB3 "Modified"
State: South Dakota
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That’s great, so it is a good time to get everything secured. 😀
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True but too busy catching Crab, Shrimp and Salmon.
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09-08-2020, 11:27 PM
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Junior Member
Brand: DRV
Model: 38ps3
State: California
Posts: 13
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Les said your rear end is moving all over the place also , you should have gone to his place 30 min earler on monday morning, i would have told you what i did to my rig. oh well, at least you waved at me as i was leaving.
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09-08-2020, 11:55 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: DRV
Model: 38 RSB3
State: South Dakota
Posts: 2,280
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Originally Posted by Surron
Les said your rear end is moving all over the place also , you should have gone to his place 30 min earler on monday morning, i would have told you what i did to my rig. oh well, at least you waved at me as i was leaving.
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Which rear end did Les see moving of Ron’s? What did you have Les do for you?
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09-09-2020, 01:22 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: DRV
Model: 39TKSB3 "Modified"
State: South Dakota
Posts: 1,837
THOR #1661
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Originally Posted by Surron
Les said your rear end is moving all over the place also , you should have gone to his place 30 min earler on monday morning, i would have told you what i did to my rig. oh well, at least you waved at me as i was leaving.
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I'm bummed we didn't meet! Too darn buys having fun.
Hope your time at Les' place went well getting your front rams rebuilt.
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09-13-2020, 10:27 PM
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Junior Member
Brand: DRV
Model: 38ps3
State: California
Posts: 13
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So as to rear ends, I think Ron should tell us. As far as to what I had Les do, I will report on that later.
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09-14-2020, 02:57 AM
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Senior Member
Brand: DRV
Model: 38 RSB3
State: South Dakota
Posts: 2,280
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Originally Posted by Surron
So as to rear ends, I think Ron should tell us. As far as to what I had Les do, I will report on that later.
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Still just curious to what you had Les do...
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09-14-2020, 04:33 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: DRV
Model: 39TKSB3 "Modified"
State: South Dakota
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He should start a new thread about the process.
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09-15-2020, 05:53 AM
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Brand: DRV
Model: 38 RSB3
State: South Dakota
Posts: 2,280
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Originally Posted by Cummins12V98
He should start a new thread about the process.
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He did.
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03-12-2021, 03:51 PM
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Junior Member
Brand: DRV
State: Missouri
Posts: 1
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How did you pull it back in place we’ve noticed ours behind couch
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03-12-2021, 06:24 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: DRV
Model: 38 RSB3
State: South Dakota
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03-14-2021, 07:21 PM
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Junior Member
Brand: DRV
State: Texas
Posts: 2
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End wall repairs
It is NOT rare. In fact, I have spoken to 6 different RV shops in IN, TX, OK, TN and they recount hundreds of repairs made over the last 2 years. I personally witnessed a 40KSSB4 in for repairs here in the Rio Grande Valley of Texas where the rear cap and endwall fell OFF going down the road.
Our 2016 40KSSB4 first started spitting screws in the trim end cap that covers the fiberglass end cap to sidewall joint in early 2017. We had the fifth-wheel in the DRV service center in Howe and the tech told me it was just road vibration and keep screwing the screws back in. I fought that battle with bent sheet metal, stripped screws etc until the techs here told me what was going on. We removed the rear window, then the fiberglass end cap and discovered that the end wall was attached to the side walls with 12 #6 screws through a 1" x 1 1/2" flimsy aluminum angle and every single screw was broken. The bottom plate of the end wall had been screwed to the edge of the plywood flooring in only 2 places and both screws were broken. The rear ends of both sidewalls were twisted and sheared. Literally, the only thing holding the end wall in place was 6 screws across the top plate of the wall. We added 2x2 angles bolted to the bottom plate of the wall and welded to the floor joist top chord. Them we replaced the flimsy angels with heavier larger angles and heli-arc welded them in place, NO SCREWS. The bottom plate of each sidewall was repaired by heli-arc welding.
Don't ley ANYONErell you this is not a common failure.
This is a systemic structural deficiency in EVERY DRV made and will manifest itself one way or another eventually.
Maybe ours showed up sooner than others because we are full-timers and travel across the US north to south and vice versa at least twice a year.
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03-14-2021, 10:12 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: DRV
Model: 38 RSB3
State: South Dakota
Posts: 2,280
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Originally Posted by robertmparton@gmail.com
It is NOT rare. In fact, I have spoken to 6 different RV shops in IN, TX, OK, TN and they recount hundreds of repairs made over the last 2 years. I personally witnessed a 40KSSB4 in for repairs here in the Rio Grande Valley of Texas where the rear cap and endwall fell OFF going down the road.
Our 2016 40KSSB4 first started spitting screws in the trim end cap that covers the fiberglass end cap to sidewall joint in early 2017. We had the fifth-wheel in the DRV service center in Howe and the tech told me it was just road vibration and keep screwing the screws back in. I fought that battle with bent sheet metal, stripped screws etc until the techs here told me what was going on. We removed the rear window, then the fiberglass end cap and discovered that the end wall was attached to the side walls with 12 #6 screws through a 1" x 1 1/2" flimsy aluminum angle and every single screw was broken. The bottom plate of the end wall had been screwed to the edge of the plywood flooring in only 2 places and both screws were broken. The rear ends of both sidewalls were twisted and sheared. Literally, the only thing holding the end wall in place was 6 screws across the top plate of the wall. We added 2x2 angles bolted to the bottom plate of the wall and welded to the floor joist top chord. Them we replaced the flimsy angels with heavier larger angles and heli-arc welded them in place, NO SCREWS. The bottom plate of each sidewall was repaired by heli-arc welding.
Don't ley ANYONErell you this is not a common failure.
This is a systemic structural deficiency in EVERY DRV made and will manifest itself one way or another eventually.
Maybe ours showed up sooner than others because we are full-timers and travel across the US north to south and vice versa at least twice a year.
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My rear walls base plate was jus floating. There were two screws that were snapped off going across the base plate. You would think structurally they should be built the same way.
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03-15-2021, 03:21 AM
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Senior Member
Brand: DRV
Model: 2010 MS 38TKSB3
State: Oklahoma
Posts: 109
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Quote:
Originally Posted by robertmparton@gmail.com
It is NOT rare. In fact, I have spoken to 6 different RV shops in IN, TX, OK, TN and they recount hundreds of repairs made over the last 2 years. I personally witnessed a 40KSSB4 in for repairs here in the Rio Grande Valley of Texas where the rear cap and endwall fell OFF going down the road.
Our 2016 40KSSB4 first started spitting screws in the trim end cap that covers the fiberglass end cap to sidewall joint in early 2017. We had the fifth-wheel in the DRV service center in Howe and the tech told me it was just road vibration and keep screwing the screws back in. I fought that battle with bent sheet metal, stripped screws etc until the techs here told me what was going on. We removed the rear window, then the fiberglass end cap and discovered that the end wall was attached to the side walls with 12 #6 screws through a 1" x 1 1/2" flimsy aluminum angle and every single screw was broken. The bottom plate of the end wall had been screwed to the edge of the plywood flooring in only 2 places and both screws were broken. The rear ends of both sidewalls were twisted and sheared. Literally, the only thing holding the end wall in place was 6 screws across the top plate of the wall. We added 2x2 angles bolted to the bottom plate of the wall and welded to the floor joist top chord. Them we replaced the flimsy angels with heavier larger angles and heli-arc welded them in place, NO SCREWS. The bottom plate of each sidewall was repaired by heli-arc welding.
Don't ley ANYONErell you this is not a common failure.
This is a systemic structural deficiency in EVERY DRV made and will manifest itself one way or another eventually.
Maybe ours showed up sooner than others because we are full-timers and travel across the US north to south and vice versa at least twice a year.
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I'm sorry to be nit-picky, but can you absolutely confirm that EVERY DRV has that problem?
Terry
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03-15-2021, 03:20 PM
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#54
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Senior Member
Brand: DRV
Model: 39TKSB3 "Modified"
State: South Dakota
Posts: 1,837
THOR #1661
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My self and two other 2016 DRV owners I personally know have a rear wall issue. My 07.5 MS had no issues other than random screws backing out over time over the whole unit.
Terry I think this started happening after your year DRV was made. I am sure Slade could shed light on this.
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03-15-2021, 03:36 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: DRV
Model: 2019 MS 39DBRS3
State: Delaware
Posts: 554
THOR #9431
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Originally Posted by Terry and Jo
I'm sorry to be nit-picky, but can you absolutely confirm that EVERY DRV has that problem?
Terry
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I can't confirm. But I can confirm on my many visits to the assembly line I've never seen any support on the ends of the frame for the rear cap.
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03-17-2021, 06:47 PM
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#56
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Junior Member
Brand: DRV
State: Texas
Posts: 2
THOR #22532
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End wall repairs
No, I can't honestly say that I know EVERY single DRV has this deficiency, but the number of responses I've seen here, on other forums and asking questions at 6 different DRV repair centers with at least a hundred repairs leads me to believe mine is not an isolated issue. It appears to be a serious design flaw, executed badly in construction. While I am not an RV design specialist, I am a Civil Engineer with 50 years of commercial building experience. Never in anyone's right mind would design a structural wall that is TOTALLY unsupported and attached with only #6 screws through a 1/16" thick aluminum angle. Aluminum has a place in construction but it's NOT for structural use.
DRV in Howe has essentially just given me the finger about accepting responsibility for their inadequacies, so it's game on. I will flood social media with this issue and make it my mission to discourage ANYONE from investing in their products.
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03-17-2021, 07:49 PM
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#57
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Senior Member
Brand: DRV
Model: 2019 MS 39DBRS3
State: Delaware
Posts: 554
THOR #9431
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Originally Posted by robertmparton@gmail.com
No, I can't honestly say that I know EVERY single DRV has this deficiency, but the number of responses I've seen here, on other forums and asking questions at 6 different DRV repair centers with at least a hundred repairs leads me to believe mine is not an isolated issue. It appears to be a serious design flaw, executed badly in construction. While I am not an RV design specialist, I am a Civil Engineer with 50 years of commercial building experience. Never in anyone's right mind would design a structural wall that is TOTALLY unsupported and attached with only #6 screws through a 1/16" thick aluminum angle. Aluminum has a place in construction but it's NOT for structural use.
DRV in Howe has essentially just given me the finger about accepting responsibility for their inadequacies, so it's game on. I will flood social media with this issue and make it my mission to discourage ANYONE from investing in their products.
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Good
Are you on facebunk as well?
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2019 DRV MS 39DBRS3
2020 F-450
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03-17-2021, 08:27 PM
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#58
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Senior Member
Brand: DRV
State: Texas
Posts: 311
THOR #9543
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I guess that I am one of the lucky one’s, by not having any of the issues that some of you have. My 2017 36RSSB3 has had a few minor issues that were handled by DRV, either by sending me parts or reimbursement. I have personally inspected my rear cap and it is not loose; the corner caulk is not even cracked. I would buy DRV again, but probably not in my lifetime. My last RV was over 20 years old when I sold it for this one; it still looked new.
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03-18-2021, 04:48 PM
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#59
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Senior Member
Brand: DRV
Model: 39TKSB3 "Modified"
State: South Dakota
Posts: 1,837
THOR #1661
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clev how many miles on your rig?
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03-18-2021, 04:59 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: DRV
State: Texas
Posts: 311
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Probably about 25k. We took delivery in AR in December, 2016. Since then, from south, central TX: east coast and Key West (2 separate trips), NV, MT, WY, CO, ...... we usually get 2-4 trips a year.
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