Journey with Confidence RV GPS App RV Trip Planner RV LIFE Campground Reviews RV Maintenance Take a Speed Test Free 7 Day Trial ×
 

Go Back   Thor Forums > Thor Industry Towables - Travel Trailers & Fifth Wheels > DRV Luxury Suites
Click Here to Login
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
 
Old 12-06-2018, 03:03 PM   #1
Senior Member
 
wingnut60's Avatar
 
Brand: DRV
State: Texas
Posts: 678
THOR #3109
Roof construction

Anyone here have a picture of the roof before the membrane is laid on? I have a section about 2ft wide that is lifting under the material. It looks like there is a curved piece that forms the transition from horizontal to vertical--that has lifted and I can push it back down. Can see screw head bumps. Wondering if screws pulled loose or material has failed?
Thanks.
Joe

__________________
2016 Tiffin 40QBH
2015 38RSSA--traded
2005 36TK3--retired, but it was a good one
2017 F450 KR
wingnut60 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-07-2018, 02:15 AM   #2
Senior Member
 
Brand: DRV
Model: Memphis
State: South Dakota
Posts: 181
THOR #2341
Screws are loose. Or lack of.
For your viewing pleasure
__________________
A&J
2017 Mobile Suite Memphis
Walker is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-07-2018, 03:01 AM   #3
Senior Member
 
wingnut60's Avatar
 
Brand: DRV
State: Texas
Posts: 678
THOR #3109
Walker,
Don't know if I should thank you for the video link--that is scary bad work for a top-line fiver. If mine looks like that, I am in for some trouble down the road.
It does show the exact place I am concerned with, but don't know why the screws came loose. There seems to be a sufficient number based on the bumps in the material to indicate loose screws, problem I have is if the wood is compromised. Can't do anything without a slit in the membrane, got to wait til I know I have dry weather ahead for some days, and warm also. Tucson ought to do it.
Thanks for the video, helped immensely.
Joe
__________________
2016 Tiffin 40QBH
2015 38RSSA--traded
2005 36TK3--retired, but it was a good one
2017 F450 KR
wingnut60 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-07-2018, 03:10 AM   #4
Senior Member
 
Brand: DRV
Model: Memphis
State: South Dakota
Posts: 181
THOR #2341
We're at Demontrond RV, or we will be Monday getting a Spray on Roof to replace the membrane roof that our original hail storm damaged. They are replacing the roof radius on both sides and will re-screw the plywood down.
Yea, When I found that video I finally came to grips with the true quality we're dealing with.
https://rvroof.com/
__________________
A&J
2017 Mobile Suite Memphis
Walker is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-07-2018, 03:45 AM   #5
Senior Member
 
Brand: DRV
State: Texas
Posts: 142
THOR #11383
The rolled side coming up in the video shows what part of mine is doing but I haven't up to the roof for since arriving in Texas so I can't say if mine is getting worse, The video shows me that it is the tin roll is come loose. Masking tape??


Walker who is doing this work?
Thanks for the video


Clay 2016 MS 38PS3 #8120
__________________
MS60ocb is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-07-2018, 05:20 AM   #6
Senior Member
 
halfprice's Avatar
 
Brand: Still Looking
Model: Renegade Valencia 38RB
State: California
Posts: 3,497
THOR #3156
Quote:
Originally Posted by Walker View Post
We're at Demontrond RV, or we will be Monday getting a Spray on Roof to replace the membrane roof that our original hail storm damaged. They are replacing the roof radius on both sides and will re-screw the plywood down.
Yea, When I found that video I finally came to grips with the true quality we're dealing with.
https://rvroof.com/
Walker,
Whats the cost of tge spray on roofing

It sure lokks good

Jerry
__________________
https://www.thorforums.com/forums/f2...mods-4609.html
Jerry, Maria, and Sasha 6lb Yorkie
2022 Renegade Valencia 38RB "Five Deuces"
2016 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited Sport
FMCA # F464385
halfprice is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-07-2018, 05:35 AM   #7
Senior Member
 
rynosback's Avatar
 
Brand: DRV
Model: 38 RSB3
State: South Dakota
Posts: 2,280
THOR #1658
Quote:
Originally Posted by Walker View Post
Screws are loose. Or lack of.
For your viewing pleasure
Well this also explains why some of my upper cabinets get warm when Iím in the sun. As some of those bats look a little short.
__________________
2016 DRV38RSB3
2015 Ram 3500 Regular Cab DRW CTD Asian trans 410 rear
rynosback is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-07-2018, 03:27 PM   #8
Senior Member
 
wingnut60's Avatar
 
Brand: DRV
State: Texas
Posts: 678
THOR #3109
Smile

So far, from the video, it is called Extreme Everguard by GAF:

https://www.gaf.com/en-us/document-l...e_brochure.pdf

The installer is in Fort Oglethorpe, GA, but can't find the actual install company name yet. It is TPO membrane. This may be the shop:

https://www.rvroofinstall.com/

The tag on the rear of the Suites shows to have been sold by RVs4Less. Also it mentions something named Custom Coach is getting billed for the replacement.

Walker,
This is one time I could only hope for a hailstorm....
__________________
2016 Tiffin 40QBH
2015 38RSSA--traded
2005 36TK3--retired, but it was a good one
2017 F450 KR
wingnut60 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-07-2018, 06:46 PM   #9
Senior Member
 
Brand: DRV
Model: 39TKSB3 "Modified"
State: South Dakota
Posts: 1,838
THOR #1661
HUGE waste of money with all the curbs!!! It's NOT a flat rood that is where the curbs would be a good idea.

I dealt with this stuff in my career as a Construction Superintendent. The fact is there are more places to have a potential leak with these curbs, look at all the seams on the "special" satellite curb for example.

Nice product but please show me where the original product failed???
__________________
Cummins12V98 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-07-2018, 07:04 PM   #10
Senior Member
 
wingnut60's Avatar
 
Brand: DRV
State: Texas
Posts: 678
THOR #3109
Ron,
I don't understand the curbs either. But looking at my roof, and use of masking tape to cover joints and too few screws lets me understand why my roof seams are lifting/curved section is lifting. It is a very revealing video about DRV construction shortcuts.
__________________
2016 Tiffin 40QBH
2015 38RSSA--traded
2005 36TK3--retired, but it was a good one
2017 F450 KR
wingnut60 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-07-2018, 07:15 PM   #11
Senior Member
 
Brand: DRV
Model: 39TKSB3 "Modified"
State: South Dakota
Posts: 1,838
THOR #1661
Quote:
Originally Posted by wingnut60 View Post
Ron,
I don't understand the curbs either. But looking at my roof, and use of masking tape to cover joints and too few screws lets me understand why my roof seams are lifting/curved section is lifting. It is a very revealing video about DRV construction shortcuts.

Completely agree!!! But the whole roof replacement was a BIG joke in my opinion. Wondering what the $$$ was???
__________________
Cummins12V98 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-07-2018, 11:44 PM   #12
Senior Member
 
wingnut60's Avatar
 
Brand: DRV
State: Texas
Posts: 678
THOR #3109
I contacted that shop and was quoted around $8400, with about $1000 of that going to the removal/replacement of the solar panels.
If I can't get the curved metal section to stay down (one thing for sure, it will require cuts into the membrane and Eternabond over them) then will be looking at something like the video---maybe RVRoofArmor is a consideration.
Joe
__________________
2016 Tiffin 40QBH
2015 38RSSA--traded
2005 36TK3--retired, but it was a good one
2017 F450 KR
wingnut60 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-08-2018, 12:04 AM   #13
Senior Member
 
rynosback's Avatar
 
Brand: DRV
Model: 38 RSB3
State: South Dakota
Posts: 2,280
THOR #1658
Quote:
Originally Posted by wingnut60 View Post
I contacted that shop and was quoted around $8400, with about $1000 of that going to the removal/replacement of the solar panels.
If I can't get the curved metal section to stay down (one thing for sure, it will require cuts into the membrane and Eternabond over them) then will be looking at something like the video---maybe RVRoofArmor is a consideration.
Joe
I think the roof armor, bed liner, Linex is about 10k. But comes with a lifetime warranty.
__________________
2016 DRV38RSB3
2015 Ram 3500 Regular Cab DRW CTD Asian trans 410 rear
rynosback is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-08-2018, 12:56 AM   #14
Senior Member
 
Brand: DRV
Model: Memphis
State: South Dakota
Posts: 181
THOR #2341
We're at $8800 for our DRV Memphis Roof. With the radius edges replaced. We already bought new vent covers and AC covers due to the hail damage. They, Demontrond, said they'll screw down whatever decking we have loose before spraying. Different locations might have different pricing due to local labor rates. Friend that got his done in the Dallas area was the same price even though they are 8 feet shorter. Mississippi might be even cheaper.
And yes this has a lifetime warranty. Even if you add something later, they can do touch-ups to the new installation. It would be a PITA to set up solar, but if you could mount all the feet, layout all the wiring and have them spray over everything, you would never have a leak issue.
__________________
A&J
2017 Mobile Suite Memphis
Walker is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-08-2018, 03:26 PM   #15
Senior Member
 
Brand: DRV
Model: 39TKSB3 "Modified"
State: South Dakota
Posts: 1,838
THOR #1661
"If I can't get the curved metal section to stay down (one thing for sure, it will require cuts into the membrane and Eternabond over them)"

Why not put Eternabond over the questionable areas? Forget the cutting part.
__________________
Cummins12V98 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-08-2018, 05:11 PM   #16
Senior Member
 
Brand: DRV
State: Texas
Posts: 142
THOR #11383
I have several raised areas but this is may longest. This picture was taken in the rain. Lack of Glue??

Clay 2016 MS 38PS3
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	IMG_8005 roof bubble.jpg
Views:	335
Size:	57.8 KB
ID:	14534  
__________________
MS60ocb is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-09-2018, 02:11 AM   #17
Senior Member
 
wingnut60's Avatar
 
Brand: DRV
State: Texas
Posts: 678
THOR #3109
Ron,
Idea is to get the metal curve to set back down--that is going to require screws or more staples. To get a screw in....slit in membrane?
Eternabond is not going to force the underlay back down when it is already loose.
__________________
2016 Tiffin 40QBH
2015 38RSSA--traded
2005 36TK3--retired, but it was a good one
2017 F450 KR
wingnut60 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-09-2018, 02:44 AM   #18
Senior Member
 
Brand: DRV
Model: Memphis
State: South Dakota
Posts: 181
THOR #2341
Pics of our roof. Every bright white spot is a dent in the plywood. You can see the radius where it is above the plywood trapping water (AC Condensation). In the other pic you can see where the metal has lifted under the membrane and has been dented by hail.
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	IMG_20180630_065913219_HDR.jpg
Views:	365
Size:	125.4 KB
ID:	14538   Click image for larger version

Name:	IMG_20180630_065920478_HDR.jpg
Views:	286
Size:	54.4 KB
ID:	14539  

__________________
A&J
2017 Mobile Suite Memphis
Walker is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-09-2018, 02:45 PM   #19
Senior Member
 
Brand: DRV
Model: 39TKSB3 "Modified"
State: South Dakota
Posts: 1,838
THOR #1661
Quote:
Originally Posted by wingnut60 View Post
Ron,
Idea is to get the metal curve to set back down--that is going to require screws or more staples. To get a screw in....slit in membrane?
Eternabond is not going to force the underlay back down when it is already loose.

Got it!

The way I look at it is it going to cause a problem? I understand the radius metal SHOULD be attached to the plywood but if it is raised up a bit is it going to cause the roof to fail?

I can't see what you are referring to but the pic posted with the metal raised up I would do nothing with it and just keep an eye on it. It it makes a hole then fit it.

I guess it all "DEPENDS" on the condition of the area.

I am a "PICKY MoFo" but some things are simply not worth worrying about.
__________________
Cummins12V98 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-09-2018, 04:01 PM   #20
Senior Member
 
wingnut60's Avatar
 
Brand: DRV
State: Texas
Posts: 678
THOR #3109
Ron,
Not sure that the raised area would cause the roof to fail, but I feel the metal edge is eventually going to wear thru the membrane. Just covering a raised area with Ebond just doesn't seem the right way to do it. Also wondering when the rest of the staples are going to pull loose on other sections...
__________________
2016 Tiffin 40QBH
2015 38RSSA--traded
2005 36TK3--retired, but it was a good one
2017 F450 KR
wingnut60 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


» Featured Campgrounds

Reviews provided by

Disclaimer:

This website is not affiliated with or endorsed by Thor Industries or any of its affiliates. This is an independent, unofficial site.




All times are GMT. The time now is 02:43 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.6.0 PL2