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Old 12-23-2020, 01:21 AM   #1
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shockabsover for 2020 axis 24.1

I would like to upgrade my new 2020 Thor Axis 24.1 with Ford E-350 chasis. some have said that Bilstein is a good shockabsorver upgrade front and rear. can you give me the part numbers?
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Old 12-23-2020, 01:50 AM   #2
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Before we do part numbers, what are your expectations and reason for the upgrade?
I can recommend 8 different part numbers and even a custom valve unit depending on what you're looking for.

If you're just looking for a direct replacement, it's a direct replacement and nothing will be accomplished other than expense and labor.
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Old 12-23-2020, 01:59 AM   #3
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Before we do part numbers, what are your expectations and reason for the upgrade?
I can recommend 8 different part numbers and even a custom valve unit depending on what you're looking for.

If you're just looking for a direct replacement, it's a direct replacement and nothing will be accomplished other than expense and labor.

I would like atleast 20% improvement in ride. I have already changed Roadmaster rear sway bars and roadmaster stearing stabilizer that has improved my sway problem. now I am looking to improve ride.
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The stock Ford shocks provide the best ride.
Unless you go to custom valve shocks, any aftermarket shock will give you a harsher ride.
It's their nature. You can't tame the suspension by inducing mild valving/mild ride. Shocks act quickly slowly mushy or stiff.
Quick and stiff suppresses body stuff and are harsh. Slow and mushy give good ride.

I have probably the most extensive suspension changes on this forum.
I run stock Ford shocks in the rear and custom valved shocks in the front that mimic stock Ford shocks(because my shock Mounts were changed and stock E450 shocks now do not fit.)
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Old 12-23-2020, 02:07 AM   #5
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I would like atleast 20% improvement in ride. I have already changed Roadmaster rear sway bars and roadmaster stearing stabilizer that has improved my sway problem. now I am looking to improve ride.
I donít think itís possible
Unless you change/increase tire size, open the wheel wells & lower tire pressure
These are truck chassisís
The ride is the ride is the ride
You can slightly improve existing ride by lowering front tire pressure to 60 or less & adding air shocks in the front springs with a low pressure

Most of us have tried many different methods to reduce shaking on bad roads
Unfortunately, we all get the same results
Not a lot you can do about it other than the above recommendations
Or
Buy a $500k diesel pusher
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Old 12-23-2020, 02:08 AM   #6
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The stock Ford shocks provide the best ride.
Unless you go to custom valve shocks, any aftermarket shock will give you a harsher ride.
It's their nature. You can't tame the suspension by inducing mild valving.

I have probably the most extensive suspension changes on this forum.
I run stock Ford shocks in the rear and custom made shocks in the front.
can you give me insight and details of your custom valve? how it works and how can I get it and what would be the price?
how much improvement can I expect ?
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Old 12-23-2020, 02:20 AM   #7
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You'll get no improvement.
Mine are valved to match an axle change in the front which required custom length(my whole front suspension assembly is now closer to a f750 with rotor adapters to use 16"wheels). The valving is made to be as close to the stock Ford as possible while allowing for the extra length I needed and with mounting points to match the new front shock Mounts.
In other vehicles I have, the custom valving was to allow custom springs to work as they should.

If you are truly interested in the best that can be done, contact
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In Santa Ana California and tell them you want custom springs made.
Then they'll valve shocks to fit the springs.


You can stiffen the ride with bilstein shocks.
'Better' is a seat-of-the-pants unmeasureable thing.
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Old 12-23-2020, 02:29 AM   #8
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You'll get no improvement.
Mine are valved to match an axle change in the front which required custom length. The valving is made to be as close to the stock Ford as possible while allowing for the extra length I needed.
In other vehicles I have the custom valving was to allow custom springs to work as they should.

If you are truly interested in the best that can be done, contact
Deevers spring
In Santa Ana California and tell them you want custom springs made.
Then they'll valve shocks to fit the springs.

You can stiffen the ride with bilstein shocks.
'Better' is a seat-of-the-pants unmeasureable thing.
thanks but do you have Bilstein part numbers for front and rear. I hope that it will improve 15-20%
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Old 12-23-2020, 02:36 AM   #9
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Someone with less regard will give you the part numbers of some arbitrary Bilstein that will fit.

Two people, well versed, both owning 24.1 vehicles, having no fear of modification and quite a bit of time on the road, have given you extensive answers to the contrary of what you hope.
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Old 12-23-2020, 02:38 AM   #10
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thanks for your lengthy explanation and help.
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Old 12-23-2020, 04:12 PM   #11
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Interesting? We are in 5th year with 24.1 and it seems to handle fine. We do have a reflex stabilizer in place of weak stock unit. Just returned from trip to Memphis from Florida towing open trailer over some of the worst roads we have been on. The ride is really no different than when new. Compression and rebound in suspension is no issue. It does ride/drive like a truck, but is basically a loaded truck.

We did lose trailer tag in one of thd series of potholes in TN.

Good luck. Lots of truth in Duckface statements.
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