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View Poll Results: Axis/Vegas 24.1 Which year should I get?
2015 2 28.57%
2017 3 42.86%
2019 2 28.57%
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Old 10-18-2019, 04:09 PM   #1
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Smile Axis 24.1 2015 vs 2017 vs 2019

Hello all,

I am thinking of finally jumping the gun and getting an RV. I have dreamed of owning a Class B for years, but decided to finally look at Class C RVs for the extra space for guests. While the salesman was inside, I stumbled in an Axis 24.1 and I think I’m dead set on this model. I refused to even consider a Class A before I stepped in that model. I love the features, floorplan and the huge view in the front. I also looked at the 25 and 27 units, but I love the 24.1 because a short length is my first priority and I like the twin beds. I’ve read enough posts on this forum to know that there is very little difference between the Axis and Vegas except the exterior look, so I've been keeping an eye out for either model. However, I am interested in year-to-year model comparisons.

I did notice that the cabinetry has a complete modern upgrade in 2018 which I LOVE, but sadly there aren’t any used 2018/2019 models anywhere near me (all are 4 or more hours away). If a 2018 or used 2019 becomes available near me, I will probably jump on it right away. However, I do have two models within an one-hour drive:

2017 Axis 24.1 listed for $60,000 and 6,000 miles. NADA low retail is $52,000.

2015 Axis 24.1 listed for $40,000 and 40,000 miles. NADA low retail is $40,000.

Features are the most important thing to me, since this seems like a reasonable depreciation of about 10% per year and the additional cost will be about $100 extra on my monthly note which is still well within my budget.

Other considerations: I will not be towing or hauling a lot of weight. Max passenger weight would be about 550 lbs. if hauling 4 people (two pre-teens). Otherwise, it will be two or three adults under that weight limit. The most I would tow is my 120 lb. pedal boat or a moped and that will not be often. I'm also a very light packer. Weight isn't really an issue for me, so small capacity changes probably won't matter.

I am aware of the changes in the bathroom doors for 2015, and the changes to the curtain rod in 2016 (arc which provides more shower room).

As for plumbing, does the bathroom sink go to the black tank with the toilet? I think this is helpful as a way to add more liquids in the black tank, but comments seem to suggest that not all models have the plumbing set up this way.

I’ve also seen comments about the batteries. Does the 2017 still have the same batteries in the 2015 that many have had trouble with?

Are there any other important changes that you think make the 2017 model superior to the 2015?

Also, I'm not sure if either are under warranty. I could care less about warranty on the interior as I am very handy and prefer to fix it myself instead of having it sit at a dealership for weeks/months. Though I can work on my own engine, I strongly prefer not too, so an engine warranty would be preferred.

I also expect to trade it in and upgrade to a newer model in a couple of years once the recession is under way and interest rates are at an all time low, so the 2015 would be about 7 years old when I trade it in.

Like I said, they are both well within my budget, but just because I can afford it, doesn't mean it's worth the extra expense. This is a WANT, not a NEED. I've been waiting all year to buy in the off-season and I can continue waiting if I don't get an excellent deal. That's what I'm trying to determine here. I know many would say to go with the newer unit if I can afford it, but I am only in the financial position to buy an RV because I don't make purchases with that state of mind. I'm really looking to see if there is some type of major upgrade that makes the extra expense worthwhile.

If I didn't get one of these units now, I may wait until January and buy a new 2019. Other than the much nicer interior, is there any other reason I should consider that? At this point, I'm not very inclined to take the depreciation hit on a new RV just because I like the cabinets (though I do like them ALOT).

Thanks in advance to any Axis/Vegas owners that can provide your insight and sorry for the long post.

~ TinyTink

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Old 10-18-2019, 04:16 PM   #2
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All the bathroom sinks go to the black tank in all Axis/Vegas models.

Check the VINs: You'll find either an E-350 or an E-450 frame underneath them depending on model year.

The 2015 will also have about a 6" or so taller windshield (which may be prone to cracking, although our 2014 hasn't cracked at all (knock on wood) ).
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Old 10-18-2019, 05:29 PM   #3
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Axis 24.1 2015 vs 2017 vs 2019

No problem with a crack on my 2015 Axis 24.1 windshield either. And I just recently had to replace the original Harris house batteries. 5 plus years on those.
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Old 10-18-2019, 06:30 PM   #4
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I have a 2017 24.1 for sale. See link below. Love it. Just need something a little bigger for the winter in FL.
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Old 10-18-2019, 07:08 PM   #5
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You've asked an awful lot of really good questions
...that I am in no position to answer...
So I'll just say, "Welcome to the Forum!"

(And happy shopping!)
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Old 10-18-2019, 07:55 PM   #6
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We bought a 2018.
Didn't want the Bluetooth controls in the 2019 (there isn't a soul on this forum that will believe this)
Didn't want the interior finishes on the 2017
All 2018(supposedly all) are E450.
2018 door and kitchen windows and cabinets are different from 2017
2018 and 2019 are the only units with curved cabinets, 2020 has (supposedly) flat cabinets again.

I think awnings are armed on 2017 and armless on 2018 and up.
13,500 ac on older units, 15,000 on newer.
Six speed trans is a must. I don't know how far back you have to go to miss the good six speed.

Tires need considered. A 2015 will be on the edge of time for tires regardless of miles.
Peeling upholstered stuff in 2015 and 2016 (I think those are the years)

We traveled from the grand canyon to cape Girardeau to buy ours. Just at 5,000 miles round trip.
Private party with 6,000 miles, the owner bought it July 1st 2018, we bought it October 31st 2018. The owners hadn't yet made their fourth payment....

Rented a car here, drove the 24.1 back.
It's a MotorHome. Purchase Travel shouldn't be a regard, it should be the first adventure.
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Old 10-18-2019, 08:01 PM   #7
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We went with a 2018 because it had the larger kitchen window than the 2017 and did not have the induction cook top (I'm a gas fan (let the jokes begin)) that the 2019 has. I also was leary of the new electronic control panel on 2019s. I figured it would take a few years to gets bugs worked out. I loved the way E450 drove from the lot compared to our E350 Winnebago class C. If none of that is important to you, get the lowest mileage per dollar that you can find.
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Old 10-18-2019, 08:42 PM   #8
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Axis 24.1 2015 vs 2017 vs2018

I have the Vegas 25.4 and both sinks drain to the grey water tank. The only thing that drains into the black water tank is the toilet.
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Old 10-25-2019, 11:53 AM   #9
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Lots of good info. Much appreciated!
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Old 10-30-2019, 07:07 PM   #10
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We have a 2018 24.1 Axis and it has the e350 chassis. I have upgrade with sway-bars and safe t plus which has helped a lot. The twin beds are good but not much room when getting in and out of the bed. The bathroom sink does go into the black tank. The 24.1 does handle well so can go most places. Had lots of water leaks around frameless windows but think I have them sealed up.
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Old 10-30-2019, 07:44 PM   #11
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I would also check out the 27.7 model, more room with two slides.
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Old 10-30-2019, 07:56 PM   #12
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WOW, you must be reading my mind! You have asked all the questions and more I was going to post. Thank you for getting there ahead of me. Now to go back and read all the information you have received. Thank you and all who have responded.
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Old 10-30-2019, 08:44 PM   #13
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We have a 2017 Vegas 24.1 and have really enjoyed it.


Just for a second thought, Thor makes 2 coaches in a Class C that have the same floor plan as the Vegas 24.1. The only difference is the bunk bed above the cab.



As much as I like the view in a Class a that big front ($3000) window heat gain is almost impossible to overcome in the summertime. I routinely run the generator and the coach AC. Ive even been told to replace the refrigerator requires removal of the front window because the door is too narrow!


Also the C class gives you each with their own exit door. You now have a Ford truck with a warranty that covers factory AC, wipers, lights etc plus AIR Bags for safety. Just went thru a nightmare trying to get my Vegas AC working correctly. It is not a Ford product.
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Old 10-30-2019, 10:03 PM   #14
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We have the 2018 Axis 24.1 bought new and are loving it. A few issues but warranted and dealer has been good so far making it right. We put 12000 miles on it since mid January and (knock on wood) think we have worked out most bugs.
We do plan to do some upgrades (going out west the winds really pushed us around) like sway bars etc.
One question though, seems like rust is an issue for us. I had dealer replace most the our storage bin screws because of rust, our bumper was replaced because it had so much rust. Is this typical?
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We have a 2017 Vegas 24.1 and have really enjoyed it.


Just for a second thought, Thor makes 2 coaches in a Class C that have the same floor plan as the Vegas 24.1. The only difference is the bunk bed above the cab.



As much as I like the view in a Class a that big front ($3000) window heat gain is almost impossible to overcome in the summertime. I routinely run the generator and the coach AC. Ive even been told to replace the refrigerator requires removal of the front window because the door is too narrow!


Also the C class gives you each with their own exit door. You now have a Ford truck with a warranty that covers factory AC, wipers, lights etc plus AIR Bags for safety. Just went thru a nightmare trying to get my Vegas AC working correctly. It is not a Ford product.
A Sunguard or a Magneshade cover over the window will reduce the heat load coming in by a lot. They stop the heat/light before it even enters the window..
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Old 10-31-2019, 02:03 AM   #17
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We bought a 2017 24.1 back in April with 3k miles on it. We drove from LA to Buffalo this summer and absolutely love that thing. We drive it a lot because it's small, take it to the kids swim meets and sometimes just to six flags. We considered buying new but didn't like the cheap looking Euro interior and front end design. We did like the larger kitchen window and solar set up though. The 2017 came with the tank hot water which we wanted and the 8k hitch rather than the 5k of the 2015. Good luck finding your rig!!
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Another consideration is the tankless water heater. I would not want one. Our 2016 had the conventional 6 gallon water heater.
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Thor only provides a warranty to the original purchaser so no coach warranty on a used model but the drivetrain/chassis warranty from Ford does transfer.
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Thor only provides a warranty to the original purchaser so no coach warranty on a used model but the drivetrain/chassis warranty from Ford does transfer.
I am second owner on ours.
Thor warranted mine for a fender flare 11 months into the warranty, which was 7 months after I bought the 24.1.
Not a question, not a whimper, they just sent the part to cw.

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