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12-20-2020, 03:02 AM
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Junior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Freedon Elite 26HE
State: Alabama
Posts: 14
THOR #20751
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Drain plug in waer heater
I have the same problem in my new, to me, 2018 26HE. No socket can get in there and I actually bought a cheap slip joint plier to remove it. Problem is you can only get an 1/8 turn each time. I agree that a PEX setup, with ball valve, is in order. Don't mix metals, they don't play well together.
Tim
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12-20-2020, 03:04 AM
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Junior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Hurricane 34B
State: British Columbia
Posts: 26
THOR #5367
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I have an ‘08 34B, but the same silly design as yours, so I know your grazed knuckle pain. I have used a large pair of slip-joint pliers for many years now so the nylon edges are wearing down. I like the idea of adding some pex and some shut-off fittings.
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12-20-2020, 03:50 AM
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Senior Member
Brand: Redwood
Model: 36FB
State: Arizona
Posts: 1,766
THOR #3610
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Quote:
Originally Posted by IDguy
That doesn’t work if you have corrosion rod. Although it would be simple to put a separate drain on the tank bottom.
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There are 2 brands of water heaters Atwood & Suburban.
Atwood is the one with the complaints mentioned in this post with no anode rod needed.
The Suburban has an anode rod that must be inspected occasionally & easily removed to drain the tank.
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12-20-2020, 06:15 AM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
State: California
Posts: 896
THOR #17478
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It better be an Atwood, otherwise without an anode rod in it, he will be replacing it in about two years of age. Don't ask me why I know.
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12-20-2020, 10:09 AM
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Senior Member
Brand: Keystone
Model: Sprinter
State: Florida
Posts: 1,422
THOR #15553
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Brakeman48
Need to vent. Just finished winterizing my 2016 Hurricane 35C.
I really like to meet with the engineer that decided the best place for the water heater nylon drain plug was directly behind the propane gas piping.
PS: In a dark alley. There will be blood but most of that from the cuts on my hand from the exhaust flanges. 🤬🤬🤬
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6 point socket, universal joint, ratchet. works every time.
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12-20-2020, 10:12 AM
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Senior Member
Brand: Keystone
Model: Sprinter
State: Florida
Posts: 1,422
THOR #15553
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Quote:
Originally Posted by devnul@timmade.com
I have the same problem in my new, to me, 2018 26HE. No socket can get in there and I actually bought a cheap slip joint plier to remove it. Problem is you can only get an 1/8 turn each time. I agree that a PEX setup, with ball valve, is in order. Don't mix metals, they don't play well together.
Tim
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that is why they make universal joints.
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12-20-2020, 10:52 AM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Freedom Traveller A27
State: North Carolina
Posts: 2,444
THOR #17765
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mrfixitman
I got a threaded pipe and shut-off valve for plumbing and installed that so no tools, just turn the valve by hand, no drip and easy!
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Can you post a picture? We love pictures!
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12-20-2020, 11:12 AM
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Senior Member
Brand: Keystone
Model: Sprinter
State: Florida
Posts: 1,422
THOR #15553
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mrfixitman
I got a threaded pipe and shut-off valve for plumbing and installed that so no tools, just turn the valve by hand, no drip and easy!
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Ask a plumber about that setup. Measure from the bottom of that valve to the bottom of the tank. That's how much sludge and crud you are leaving in the tank.
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12-20-2020, 01:51 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: 2011 FW Hurricane 33T
State: England
Posts: 1,295
THOR #16471
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Atwood tank outline
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Originally Posted by cavie
Ask a plumber about that setup. Measure from the bottom of that valve to the bottom of the tank. That's how much sludge and crud you are leaving in the tank.
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So any plumbers onboard to answer this?
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12-20-2020, 02:23 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Freedom Traveller A27
State: North Carolina
Posts: 2,444
THOR #17765
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cavie
Ask a plumber about that setup. Measure from the bottom of that valve to the bottom of the tank. That's how much sludge and crud you are leaving in the tank.
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When I winterize mine, before bypassing the hot water tank, I leave the plug out and blast water through it to try to wash that crud out. I can theorize (starting to sound like Duckie) that with a turn and a valve it wouldn’t flush through as forcefully. Mine doesn’t have enough space to run a pipe and an elbow out from the drain. Less than an inch. Which is why I would love to see a picture of the pex setup.
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12-20-2020, 02:46 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Forest River Forester 235
State: Indiana
Posts: 4,884
THOR #6826
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jimbo56
When I winterize mine, before bypassing the hot water tank, I leave the plug out and blast water through it to try to wash that crud out. I can theorize (starting to sound like Duckie) that with a turn and a valve it wouldn’t flush through as forcefully. Mine doesn’t have enough space to run a pipe and an elbow out from the drain. Less than an inch. Which is why I would love to see a picture of the pex setup.
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You can buy a small nozzle for that specific purpose. It’s about a foot long and curved at the tip so that you can blast the sediment out. I don’t remember what they cost as I’ve had mine for decades but it can’t be much more than a few dollars.
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12-20-2020, 02:49 PM
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#32
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Forest River Forester 235
State: Indiana
Posts: 4,884
THOR #6826
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cavie
6 point socket, universal joint, ratchet. works every time.
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No it doesn’t. Worked great on my last several coaches but my current Atwood is the design that totally is blocked by the gas line. It’s a silly design for sure.
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12-20-2020, 08:57 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Windsport 29m
State: North Carolina
Posts: 524
THOR #9553
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RCouch
I finally pulled mine out and replace it with a couple fittings, a very short piece of PEX hose, and a small ball valve. Works great.
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Great idea man---I'm gonna do THAT!!!!!
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12-20-2020, 09:20 PM
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Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Chateau 28Z
State: Illinois
Posts: 37
THOR #20269
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Feel your pain
Mine (Chateau 28Z) was also a real pain to get out. That, and whoever installed the nylon drain plug absolutely bunged up the corners, so much so that I couldn't get a socket on it. I'm going to need to track down a new one.
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12-20-2020, 09:43 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Hurricane 35C
State: Maryland
Posts: 252
THOR #3227
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pete'sMH
No it doesn’t. Worked great on my last several coaches but my current Atwood is the design that totally is blocked by the gas line. It’s a silly design for sure.
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Totally agree and was my point in the first post. Then the experts chime in with ratchets, extensions, deep sockets, etc. The point was Atwood has a very bad design. But, we did receive SOME good input especially the one using PEX. Hopefully we will see pictures of that modification.
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2016 Thor Hurricane 35C
2015 Ford F-150 King Ranch
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2012 Jeep Liberty Limited Edition
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12-21-2020, 01:19 AM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Forest River Forester 235
State: Indiana
Posts: 4,884
THOR #6826
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Brakeman48
Totally agree and was my point in the first post. Then the experts chime in with ratchets, extensions, deep sockets, etc. The point was Atwood has a very bad design. But, we did receive SOME good input especially the one using PEX. Hopefully we will see pictures of that modification.
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Yes I’d consider doing a mod like that but then it would be difficult to flush out the sediment with the special sprayer that works so well. I get quite a bit of deposits out at year end. The cheap stamped offset wrench works pretty well.
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12-21-2020, 03:55 AM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Windsport 29M
State: Pennsylvania
Posts: 223
THOR #10254
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My gas line is directly in front of the plug on my unit too. After scraping knuckles & butchering a few nylon plugs, I ordered a 15/16 Flex Head Ratchet Wrench from Home Depot.
It cost $30 or so, but since I to take my plug out to winterize & then a few times again in the spring to clear all the calcium deposits with white vinegar, it was worth it to me.
It works like a charm & no more cuts!
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12-21-2020, 05:39 AM
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#38
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: A.C.E. 27.2
State: Indiana
Posts: 1,882
THOR #14698
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The cuts, the blood and the cussing are all part of RV maintenance. If they made it easy nobody would be paying the dealer the buck and a half to winterize their RV anymore!
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12-21-2020, 09:20 AM
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#39
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Senior Member
Brand: Keystone
Model: Sprinter
State: Florida
Posts: 1,422
THOR #15553
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OldWEB
So any plumbers onboard to answer this?
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nice picture but all those fittings have been on the flat end of my heaters. Not on the round sides.
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12-21-2020, 06:02 PM
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#40
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: ACE 30.3
State: Texas
Posts: 147
THOR #10883
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Water heater drain plug
First time I used an open/box end wrench. Not easy as the stroke you can get is 30° of turn. Last two times I have a 3/8th air ratchet I am able to work in there. 1 quick comes right out. Hand start it and zip! It's right back in.
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