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09-30-2021, 09:56 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
State: Florida
Posts: 166
THOR #17954
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Tractor Trailer sway
Have a 2015 Thor ACE 30.1. Just got home from a 6600 mile cross country trip. I have New Shocks, bigger sway bar, all new tires an alignment. Just curious is there are fix to the tractor Trailer suck in then push when they go buy? I thought about Summo Rubber suspension but it’s more annoying than a major issue. Any thoughts?
Thanks
Luke
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09-30-2021, 10:15 PM
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I Think We're Lost!
Brand: Still Looking
Model: Tiffin Wayfarer 24 BW
State: New York
Posts: 22,195
THOR #8860
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I've got SumoSprings at all four corners, and they really help a lot!
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09-30-2021, 10:21 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
State: Florida
Posts: 166
THOR #17954
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Originally Posted by Bob Denman
I've got SumoSprings at all four corners, and they really help a lot!
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Thanks Bob, I’ve heard nothing but good about them. Most likely my next move
Thanks be safe
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09-30-2021, 11:50 PM
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Site Team
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: ACE 27.1
State: Florida
Posts: 14,326
THOR #7035
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Luke D
Have a 2015 Thor ACE 30.1. Just got home from a 6600 mile cross country trip. I have New Shocks, bigger sway bar, all new tires an alignment. Just curious is there are fix to the tractor Trailer suck in then push when they go buy? I thought about Summo Rubber suspension but it’s more annoying than a major issue. Any thoughts?
Thanks
Luke
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Have you installed a steering stabilizer?
Have you had the alignment and tire pressures checked?
Have you heard of the CHF?
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Ted & Melinda
2016 ACE 27.1
2016 Chevy Sonic Toad - Selling
2020 Chevy Colorado Z71 Trail Runner Toad
2024 Chevrolet Trax 2RS - Soon 2B TOAD
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10-01-2021, 04:56 AM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
State: Florida
Posts: 166
THOR #17954
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 16ACE27
Have you installed a steering stabilizer?
Have you had the alignment and tire pressures checked?
Have you heard of the CHF?
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Have new tires, front 95 PSI rears 100 Psi, have a steering stabilizer also. Front end alignment with new tires
Luke
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10-01-2021, 11:14 AM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Freedom Traveller A27
State: North Carolina
Posts: 2,438
THOR #17765
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Luke D
Have new tires, front 95 PSI rears 100 Psi, have a steering stabilizer also. Front end alignment with new tires
Luke
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You say you have a bigger sway bar. Did you do front & rear? The CHF (cheap handling fix) involves changing the holes used in both front & rear OE sway bars therefore stiffening the suspension and eliminating some of the body roll.
I don’t know if your “bigger sway bars” have that adjustment.
My WB is a bit shorter than yours and probably lighter. But with the CHF, alignment, front wheel balance, and steering stabilizer I can cruise down the highway with one hand w/o side suck when passing or being passed by a semi.
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10-01-2021, 11:50 AM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
State: Florida
Posts: 166
THOR #17954
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jimbo56
You say you have a bigger sway bar. Did you do front & rear? The CHF (cheap handling fix) involves changing the holes used in both front & rear OE sway bars therefore stiffening the suspension and eliminating some of the body roll.
I don’t know if your “bigger sway bars” have that adjustment.
My WB is a bit shorter than yours and probably lighter. But with the CHF, alignment, front wheel balance, and steering stabilizer I can cruise down the highway with one hand w/o side suck when passing or being passed by a semi.
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motorhome is in my driveway. The larger sway bars where installed by a previous owner. I’ll check locations and fit. I did notice when changing oil yesterday that my front shocks look wore. Maybe part of issue.
Thanks
Luke
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10-01-2021, 11:56 AM
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I Think We're Lost!
Brand: Still Looking
Model: Tiffin Wayfarer 24 BW
State: New York
Posts: 22,195
THOR #8860
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Please keep in mind that you can't eliminate the sway: you can only reduce it to a manageable level.
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Current coach: Tiffin Wayfarer 24 BW
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10-01-2021, 12:33 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Miramar 37.1
State: California
Posts: 2,494
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Like Bob, I installed Sumo Springs and it did make a big difference. It makes it not so bad now. They were easy to install myself.
Paul
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10-01-2021, 01:51 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Hurricane 31S
State: Texas
Posts: 4,177
THOR #6411
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Luke D
Have new tires, front 95 PSI rears 100 Psi, have a steering stabilizer also. Front end alignment with new tires
Luke
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My coach uses the 18,000 lb chassis like yours. Thor MC recommends 82 psi all around, but after weighing the coach I have settled on 75 psi in the front and 85 on the rear.
As for coach movement when passing: the bow wave from both vehicles pushes the two vehicles apart when approaching; the venturi effect sucks the two vehicles together when the vehicles are side-by-side. This causes the inexperienced driver to correct to the left as the truck's nose approaches and to steer to the right as the truck passes. The only way I have found to lessen this effect is to increase the front wheel caster.. Stiffer anti-roll bars or Sumo springs lessen the sway and make the coach feel more stable, but do not correct the basic movement.
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2016 Hurricane 31S
1961 Rampside in tow
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10-01-2021, 02:32 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: 2015 ACE 29.3
State: Pennsylvania
Posts: 243
THOR #4359
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Rear Track Bar
Took all the tail wag from passing trucks and ETC....should have done it years ago.....
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2015 ACE 29.3
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10-01-2021, 02:39 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: Still Looking
Model: Renegade Valencia 38RB
State: California
Posts: 3,498
THOR #3156
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mousemate
Rear Track Bar
Took all the tail wag from passing trucks and ETC....should have done it years ago.....
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Yep what mouse said!!
Rear track bar was the best suspension mod I did. Front sumos also helped
Most after market sway bars only have 1 hole so chf can't be done
Reduce tire pressure. You're way to high. I'm at max weight and run 80-82 on all tires
Jerry
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10-02-2021, 01:51 AM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
State: Florida
Posts: 166
THOR #17954
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Beau388
My coach uses the 18,000 lb chassis like yours. Thor MC recommends 82 psi all around, but after weighing the coach I have settled on 75 psi in the front and 85 on the rear.
As for coach movement when passing: the bow wave from both vehicles pushes the two vehicles apart when approaching; the venturi effect sucks the two vehicles together when the vehicles are side-by-side. This causes the inexperienced driver to correct to the left as the truck's nose approaches and to steer to the right as the truck passes. The only way I have found to lessen this effect is to increase the front wheel caster.. Stiffer anti-roll bars or Sumo springs lessen the sway and make the coach feel more stable, but do not correct the basic movement.
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Thanks
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10-02-2021, 01:56 AM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
State: Florida
Posts: 166
THOR #17954
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Quote:
Originally Posted by halfprice
Yep what mouse said!!
Rear track bar was the best suspension mod I did. Front sumos also helped
Most after market sway bars only have 1 hole so chf can't be done
Reduce tire pressure. You're way to high. I'm at max weight and run 80-82 on all tires
Jerry
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Thanks Jerry
The installer set the PSI. Probably is too high. But after 6800 miles my inner and outer threads show some wear. Not much. With the alignment done I suspected tire roll which is an under inflated trait. Had alignment re checked today spot on. Most likely shocks weak. Looking at summo front end.
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10-02-2021, 04:03 AM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Hurricane 29M
State: Texas
Posts: 2,712
THOR #11781
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Front sumos helped my coach's handling a bunch. So did weighing the coach and setting the tires to match the weight. I was going to do a rear track bar, but the sway is now minimal so I stopped adding mods to the chassis.
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Lt Keefer
2018 Hurricane 29M
CHF, Saf-T-Plus, SumoSprings
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