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07-13-2021, 12:18 PM
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Ford To Drop F-150 Diesel
Ford dropped the Transit diesel first, and now the F-150 pickup will no longer have a diesel option. Report suggest many buyers prefer PowerBoost Hybrid option for torque, power and fuel economy.
https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a3...-discontinued/
https://fordauthority.com/2021/07/fo...ine-exclusive/
This could be one of the first direct casualties of electrification. As expected, smallest diesels have been most vulnerable for various reasons.
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07-13-2021, 01:12 PM
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I hope not......
I have a 2018 GMC Canyon Denali with 2.8L Duramax 4Cyl diesel. I would not hesitate to buy another one. It gets 25MPG City and up to 40MPG Highway. I also pull a 21' Snowmobile Trailer with no issues. It has plenty of power and torque for a small to mid-size truck and used for the right application.
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07-13-2021, 02:11 PM
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I own one of the f150s and love it. Sad to see that they are doing this, but I get it. Ford made the power plant so much more expensive than the other options.
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07-13-2021, 04:15 PM
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One of the issues I see Ford having with the diesel F-150 is that it was no longer at top of class in power or torque. Both RAM and Chevy 3.0L diesels in 1/2-ton pickups beat it. And since marketing is driven largely by advertising how much better your product is than competitors, that left F-150 diesel in a bit of a pickle. Additionally, I don’t see Ford spending much on light diesels to upgrade power and torque when they appear so committed to electrification.
Diesel F-150 MSRP being higher than equally-equipped PowerBoost Hybrid, which includes ProPower Onboard, must make it very difficult for buyers to justify buying the diesel. The gas engine also provides more power, torque, and fuel economy at a lower price. On paper the gas hybrid is a clear winner unless buyer just wants a diesel because they do. Also, having 6 engine options seems excessive. I would guess the diesel sold least.
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07-13-2021, 04:39 PM
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I wonder how much of a weight savings there is; when an Eco-Boost gas engine is chosen?
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07-13-2021, 07:29 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob Denman
I wonder how much of a weight savings there is; when an Eco-Boost gas engine is chosen?
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Probably not much when comparing with the hybrid as there is batteries as well.
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07-13-2021, 07:30 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Chance
One of the issues I see Ford having with the diesel F-150 is that it was no longer at top of class in power or torque. Both RAM and Chevy 3.0L diesels in 1/2-ton pickups beat it. And since marketing is driven largely by advertising how much better your product is than competitors, that left F-150 diesel in a bit of a pickle. Additionally, I don’t see Ford spending much on light diesels to upgrade power and torque when they appear so committed to electrification.
Diesel F-150 MSRP being higher than equally-equipped PowerBoost Hybrid, which includes ProPower Onboard, must make it very difficult for buyers to justify buying the diesel. The gas engine also provides more power, torque, and fuel economy at a lower price. On paper the gas hybrid is a clear winner unless buyer just wants a diesel because they do. Also, having 6 engine options seems excessive. I would guess the diesel sold least.
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I agree with most of what you said here, but we purchased ours with the specific intent to tow. At the time we were still in a travel trailer and the f150 could pull it, around 6000lbs, and still get 15mpg. None of the other power plants from ford could match that.
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07-13-2021, 07:39 PM
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I Think We're Lost!
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JamieGeek
Probably not much when comparing with the hybrid as there is batteries as well.
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07-13-2021, 07:50 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JamieGeek
Probably not much when comparing with the hybrid as there is batteries as well.
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Ford specs suggest diesel weighs around 300 pounds more than either 3.5L EcoBoost or 5.0L naturally aspirated V8. However, as you guessed, the hybrid weighs significantly more than the diesel — nearly 300 pounds more.
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