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02-22-2019, 02:31 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Vegas 24.1
State: Florida
Posts: 247
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Good Video of Why Your Salesman Doesn't Know Jack About RV's
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02-22-2019, 03:12 PM
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I Think We're Lost!
Brand: Still Looking
Model: Tiffin Wayfarer 24 BW
State: New York
Posts: 22,195
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It's too true to be funny...
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Current coach: Tiffin Wayfarer 24 BW
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02-22-2019, 05:33 PM
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Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: 2017 Axis 25.4
State: Arkansas
Posts: 2,669
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Yeah, all new RV'er should see video this before they purchase one. Its touches on stuff that I had to learn slowly off of this forum. Luckly I was learking around on this forum for about a year before I pulled the trigger. I knew every little detail on my walk though - they young kid that was showing stuff had no idea about most of it. He just had a general overview.
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2017 Axis / 25.4: Big Foot Levelers, Aims 1200 Watt inverter, Ceramic Window Tint, Full River AGM 6V batteries, Front Hellwig Sway bar / Rear Track Arm, Safe T Plus Steering Stabilizer, PD 4655 converter, Hard Wired Surge Guard, WEboost + WiFi Ranger, LED Headlights/Driving lights, TPMS, Surge tank, Tornado flush, Viair Compressor
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02-22-2019, 09:42 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Vegas 24.1
State: Florida
Posts: 247
THOR #11784
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To my dealers defense, they did throw in about a $70 "Starter Kit', most of which I found out was junk, LOL.
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02-22-2019, 10:14 PM
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Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: 2017 Axis 25.4
State: Arkansas
Posts: 2,669
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Yeah I think CW gave me $100 credit towards whatever I wanted - So I got some good stuff (I bet I spent $200).
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2017 Axis / 25.4: Big Foot Levelers, Aims 1200 Watt inverter, Ceramic Window Tint, Full River AGM 6V batteries, Front Hellwig Sway bar / Rear Track Arm, Safe T Plus Steering Stabilizer, PD 4655 converter, Hard Wired Surge Guard, WEboost + WiFi Ranger, LED Headlights/Driving lights, TPMS, Surge tank, Tornado flush, Viair Compressor
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02-22-2019, 11:03 PM
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I Think We're Lost!
Brand: Still Looking
Model: Tiffin Wayfarer 24 BW
State: New York
Posts: 22,195
THOR #8860
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Long & Winding road
Yeah I think CW gave me $100 credit towards whatever I wanted - So I got some good stuff (I bet I spent $200).
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We got a $200 voucher for "free" stuff.
The only problem: we ended up spending over $600!
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Current coach: Tiffin Wayfarer 24 BW
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02-23-2019, 12:25 AM
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Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Freedom Elite24FE
State: Texas
Posts: 542
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Good advice! I agree, few in the industry are RVers! He didn’t mention that an RV is a rolling earthquake
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02-23-2019, 02:23 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Challenger 37 LX
State: Florida
Posts: 307
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Looks like they're too busy to cut the grass.. Wait, didn't he say they are constantly moving rv's in and out? Makes you wonder how grass grew there in the first place...
After a 5 min. conversation with your salesperson, it becomes painfully obvious that they have no idea about rv's or the lifestyle.
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02-23-2019, 02:50 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
State: Georgia
Posts: 2,585
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RVMichael hits on some good points.
...it's awfully easy to 'compare' the RV industry to the every Car industry, but there is almost NOTHING to compare, other than something is being sold. It's like comparing buying a car to buying a HOUSE - if you've ever done the later, you know what I mean.
Yes, I would disagree that no 'camper' or 'rv' comes with all the stuff you need to get started, as many, many dealers not only provide a 'basic' package of a sewer hose, tp, and another few items, many also go far beyond that, certainly based on the price point of the unit - ours was purchased in TX at Motorhome Specialists and they not only gave us a 'starter pack' of the usual goods, but a fully loaded 'tool case' with most any tool you'd ever need to work on your rv - very nice.
I'll admit that you probably, or certainly, will need more than the basic starter pack, but the common mistake most new buyers make, those who've never owned an rv, or done much rv camping, is to feel that they must rush out and buy 'everything' possible that they 'think' they might need. Usually you don't really 'need' as much as you fear, especially those who are mostly weekend campers at parks and campgrounds with water and electric.
If a new person to the RVing world asks my advice, when purchasing a new RV, I give them the strongest advice I can: get the experience you can before you ever leave the house - meaning, park your rig in your driveway, if possible, DON'T plug it in, DON'T hook up to water, and test your skills by 'dry camping' for a few nights without cheating and going back into the house.
You soon realize what your RV can, and can't, do when you don't have anything to 'hook up to'. You'll quickly find out what works on battery power, or an inverter, and what doesn't. You'll also quickly find out if you can actually be 'comfortable' without all the 120v electrical amenities we are so accustomed to, or sometimes even running water.
All that is just to test your reserve, but also to give you a quick primer in what DOES work when you DO plug into power, and attach to a water spigot, or even a sewer outlet.
When you 'know' the differences, camping can be much more enjoyable because you 'know' what to expect when you are heading out, what the 'plan' for, and what needs go with that type of camping - whether off-grid totally, with only 'some' hookups, or even when you have 'full hookups' galore!
and, test and learn to use your Inverter and Generator, if you have either, before you leave the driveway - run the generator, find out what works when it's on. Turn on the Inverter - find out when and how it does it's 'magic', and whether you need it on all the time, or if you just need it for 'every now and then' travel situations.
Most of us have learned from experiences, mostly the bad ones, because they are quick teachers and stick with us! You may be one of those, too, regardless of what great advice someone, or everyone, has given you. I'm not a book learner, I'm a DO learner!
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02-23-2019, 03:44 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Forest River Forester 235
State: Indiana
Posts: 4,884
THOR #6826
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Ppersonallly, I’m glad they DON’T provide everything you need to operate an RV when you buy one. I’ve had 5 RVs over the years and, obviously, only one was my first one. I’ve always transferred my accessories and my selections have evolved over the years with changing needs and experience. With only one exception the dealer gave us a store credit with our RV purchase and I think that’s the right way to do it. There ARE some excellent and experienced salespeople out there and my advice for anyone looking for their first RV is to find one.
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02-24-2019, 09:24 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
State: Missouri
Posts: 2,327
THOR #6903
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TurnerFam
RVMichael hits on some good points.
...it's awfully easy to 'compare' the RV industry to the every Car industry, but there is almost NOTHING to compare, other than something is being sold. It's like comparing buying a car to buying a HOUSE - if you've ever done the later, you know what I mean.
Yes, I would disagree that no 'camper' or 'rv' comes with all the stuff you need to get started, as many, many dealers not only provide a 'basic' package of a sewer hose, tp, and another few items, many also go far beyond that, certainly based on the price point of the unit - ours was purchased in TX at Motorhome Specialists and they not only gave us a 'starter pack' of the usual goods, but a fully loaded 'tool case' with most any tool you'd ever need to work on your rv - very nice.
I'll admit that you probably, or certainly, will need more than the basic starter pack, but the common mistake most new buyers make, those who've never owned an rv, or done much rv camping, is to feel that they must rush out and buy 'everything' possible that they 'think' they might need. Usually you don't really 'need' as much as you fear, especially those who are mostly weekend campers at parks and campgrounds with water and electric.
If a new person to the RVing world asks my advice, when purchasing a new RV, I give them the strongest advice I can: get the experience you can before you ever leave the house - meaning, park your rig in your driveway, if possible, DON'T plug it in, DON'T hook up to water, and test your skills by 'dry camping' for a few nights without cheating and going back into the house.
You soon realize what your RV can, and can't, do when you don't have anything to 'hook up to'. You'll quickly find out what works on battery power, or an inverter, and what doesn't. You'll also quickly find out if you can actually be 'comfortable' without all the 120v electrical amenities we are so accustomed to, or sometimes even running water.
All that is just to test your reserve, but also to give you a quick primer in what DOES work when you DO plug into power, and attach to a water spigot, or even a sewer outlet.
When you 'know' the differences, camping can be much more enjoyable because you 'know' what to expect when you are heading out, what the 'plan' for, and what needs go with that type of camping - whether off-grid totally, with only 'some' hookups, or even when you have 'full hookups' galore!
and, test and learn to use your Inverter and Generator, if you have either, before you leave the driveway - run the generator, find out what works when it's on. Turn on the Inverter - find out when and how it does it's 'magic', and whether you need it on all the time, or if you just need it for 'every now and then' travel situations.
Most of us have learned from experiences, mostly the bad ones, because they are quick teachers and stick with us! You may be one of those, too, regardless of what great advice someone, or everyone, has given you. I'm not a book learner, I'm a DO learner!
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Great advice, it people follow it then they will be glad
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02-28-2019, 04:50 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: 34F
State: Oklahoma
Posts: 628
THOR #8432
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Quote:
Originally Posted by lwmcguire
Great advice, it people follow it then they will be glad
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Must had somethin in my rash berry tort this morning, but I'll work on this subject here. Any of you folks remember those old report cards we used to get? Like it had a subject pass or fail and maybe 3 slots below that added to the overall grade of that subject? And then you got what the teacher tells your parents about you on the last page? Has anyone thought about transferring that WAY to showing out an RV? Like which key works to enter the RV, which for the compartments, the hood, bunk bed compartment. Sign off then move on, Then start the RV, operate the auto lift, raise and lower the bunk bed, operate the back up camera, side mirrors, radio, GPS, heat, A/C. Then operate the slide(s), the awnings, windows, use all the propane /electric appliances, what extra materials to keep the doors closed, use of the lights and where the switches are located.... etc, etc, etc. Like they show us what it is, how it works and what to do if it doesn't with the owner signing the report card that they showed it. Add a DVD to this and I think that might help. Some things that are not needed for your model can be ignored I guess but this might help the 1st time buyers. Might even be 3-4 pages too. I know, RV 101, 202.
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