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10-17-2017, 03:39 AM
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Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: 31E
State: Louisiana
Posts: 17
THOR #8291
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Heated air raises vinyl flooring??
Team! Please give me a sanity check here... have a 2017 Four Winds 31E. We went to Yosemite this past weekend and ran the heater for the first time. When the heated air is coming out, the vinyl flooring raises off the subfloor? Is this not normal as I suspect or some kind of engineering genius that I don't have the ability to comprehend? Thanks!!
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Thor 2017 Four Winds 31E
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10-17-2017, 03:54 AM
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Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: ACE 27.1
State: Virginia
Posts: 315
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Sounds like some kinda Magic Carpet there!
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10-17-2017, 10:20 AM
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Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: hurricane 32n
State: Florida
Posts: 799
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Doesn't sound normal to me. Air must be getting under the flooring close to the heating unit.
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10-17-2017, 11:13 AM
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Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: 2017 Windsport 29M
State: Indiana
Posts: 3,692
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Heat is probably getting the vinyl soft and allowing it to come up because it wasn’t glued properly. Only fix would be to remove and reglue the vinyl. Either enough glue wasn’t used or it was allowed to dry to long before the vinyl was put down, either way not an easy fix.
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10-17-2017, 11:34 AM
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Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: 2013 Thor Damon Daybreak
State: Colorado
Posts: 66
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Perhaps there is a floor register that was inadvertently covered by the vinyl?
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Parker, Colorado
2013 Thor Damon Daybreak 34BD, bunkhouse
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10-17-2017, 12:36 PM
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Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: 37GT
State: Florida
Posts: 809
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John, if for some reason the factory covered up a duct with the flooring you should be able to push down in that area and locate it, or possibly Thor could send you the drawings indicating where all the heating ducts are suppose to be.
There are kits available with syringes and flooring glue that you may want to find and try. They enable you to inject glue down under that area of flooring to reseal it to the plywood subfloor. If it was me and I used one of the glue kits I would put a flat board on the area with about 50 pounds of weight on top of it and let it sit for a couple of days.
Good luck.
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10-17-2017, 05:08 PM
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Junior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: 31E
State: Louisiana
Posts: 17
THOR #8291
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jegdrum5050
Doesn't sound normal to me. Air must be getting under the flooring close to the heating unit.
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This is my suspicion as well. I'm going to ask Thor for a diagram of heating ducts for my coach.
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Thor 2017 Four Winds 31E
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10-17-2017, 05:10 PM
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Junior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: 31E
State: Louisiana
Posts: 17
THOR #8291
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SuperD
Heat is probably getting the vinyl soft and allowing it to come up because it wasn’t glued properly. Only fix would be to remove and reglue the vinyl. Either enough glue wasn’t used or it was allowed to dry to long before the vinyl was put down, either way not an easy fix.
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The thing is, the lifting happens as soon as the air comes on so I think that you're right that no glue was used or the glue was dried already when the vinyl was put down. Thanks for the feedback.
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Thor 2017 Four Winds 31E
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10-17-2017, 05:13 PM
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Junior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: 31E
State: Louisiana
Posts: 17
THOR #8291
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dvan
Perhaps there is a floor register that was inadvertently covered by the vinyl?
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I felt around all over the floor and didn't find where a register could be. There are two registers/vents elevated off the floor... one by the furnace and one in the bathroom. When I get the spec/diagram from Thor, that should help determine if floor registers are part of the system. Thanks for the feedback!
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Thor 2017 Four Winds 31E
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10-17-2017, 05:14 PM
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Junior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: 31E
State: Louisiana
Posts: 17
THOR #8291
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Joe-FL
John, if for some reason the factory covered up a duct with the flooring you should be able to push down in that area and locate it, or possibly Thor could send you the drawings indicating where all the heating ducts are suppose to be.
There are kits available with syringes and flooring glue that you may want to find and try. They enable you to inject glue down under that area of flooring to reseal it to the plywood subfloor. If it was me and I used one of the glue kits I would put a flat board on the area with about 50 pounds of weight on top of it and let it sit for a couple of days.
Good luck.
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Great suggestion, thanks for the feedback! I will contact Thor and post back.
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Thor 2017 Four Winds 31E
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10-17-2017, 05:15 PM
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Junior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: 31E
State: Louisiana
Posts: 17
THOR #8291
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dvan
Perhaps there is a floor register that was inadvertently covered by the vinyl?
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Not that I could tell, but will contact Thor and post back. Thanks for the feedback!
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Thor 2017 Four Winds 31E
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10-17-2017, 05:15 PM
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Junior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: 31E
State: Louisiana
Posts: 17
THOR #8291
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ComputerChips
Sounds like some kinda Magic Carpet there!
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Indeed!
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Thor 2017 Four Winds 31E
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10-17-2017, 05:43 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Gemini 24TX (Formerly)
State: California
Posts: 1,459
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My guess, only a guess, the heat expands the vinyl, causing it to buckle. It wasn't installed correctly, and should be re-done under warrantee. Hopefully your 2017 is still under the one year warrantee. My 2017 only has a week or two left on its one year, currently at the shop having the final punch list of warrantee covered stuff done.
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10-19-2017, 12:53 PM
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State: Alaska
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Are you under warranty?
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11-02-2017, 02:08 AM
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Junior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Outlaw 38RF
State: Ohio
Posts: 8
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The same thing is happening in my 2016 Outlaw 38RF. Dealer has raised an issue with Thor while still in warranty, but they still don’t have an answer yet.
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USAF (Ret)
2016 Outlaw 38RF
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11-02-2017, 11:47 AM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: ACE 30.2
State: Massachusetts
Posts: 441
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Hey I want an "air-cushioned" floor. 
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11-04-2017, 07:57 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Axis 25.4
State: California
Posts: 784
THOR #6582
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Believe it or not, Thor does NOT glue the flooring down. Why? The time it takes to dry? The cost? Not necessary because the cabinetry holds it down? I was told this by the tech doing floor warranty work on mine.
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11-04-2017, 09:05 PM
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Senior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
Model: Gemini 24TX (Formerly)
State: California
Posts: 1,459
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gnach
Believe it or not, Thor does NOT glue the flooring down. Why? The time it takes to dry? The cost? Not necessary because the cabinetry holds it down? I was told this by the tech doing floor warranty work on mine.
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I hate to say it, but I think you are right. If you look closely at the flooring, you can see staple holes in the vinyl, here and there. I wondered about those, now, I guess I know!!!!!
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11-04-2017, 10:17 PM
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I Think We're Lost!
Brand: Still Looking
Model: Tiffin Wayfarer 24 BW
State: New York
Posts: 22,195
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gnach
Believe it or not, Thor does NOT glue the flooring down. Why? The time it takes to dry? The cost? Not necessary because the cabinetry holds it down? I was told this by the tech doing floor warranty work on mine.
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 Unbelievable...
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12-10-2017, 08:34 PM
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Junior Member
Brand: Thor Motor Coach
State: Georgia
Posts: 2
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I wish you were correct about no glue under the vinyl. I know for a fact they use glue under vinyl on the 2018 Challenger YT.
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