EV fast chargers every 50 miles

[Scubawise]

Help is coming!
Those that tow electric or considering electric.
I wonder if we can plug MH in for over nighters

General Motors will build a network of EV fast chargers at Pilot travel centers along U.S. highways


https://www.cnbc.com/2022/07/14/gm-e...ndroidappshare

[lwmcguir]

We're building a few Billion dollars' worth per the money that was computer created along with the other Trillions.

I don't see this being a positive in any way shape or form.

Local charging stations are never busy and they are high priced so locals are sure going to charge at home.

Walmart Super Center has had 8 for the past 5 years or so any you might see one car at a given time and usually none. Right off I70 so the demand isn't there

I don't think our created Tax money should be spent for building something that don't have a proven demand and what should be paid for by the user.

A pad with chargers off an exit will either be in the middle of nowhere or along someone with a business trying to make it work.

Simply 100% against the idea. It is one more step in the Socialism of America

[Scubawise]

Originally Posted by lwmcguir

We're building a few Billion dollars' worth per the money that was computer created along with the other Trillions.

I don't see this being a positive in any way shape or form.

Local charging stations are never busy and they are high priced so locals are sure going to charge at home.

Walmart Super Center has had 8 for the past 5 years or so any you might see one car at a given time and usually none. Right off I70 so the demand isn't there

I don't think our created Tax money should be spent for building something that don't have a proven demand and what should be paid for by the user.

A pad with chargers off an exit will either be in the middle of nowhere or along someone with a business trying to make it work.

Simply 100% against the idea. It is one more step in the Socialism of America

Interesting take. Lora issue is not going far on 1 charge and waiting 20 to 60 minutes for a charge.

I guess if we can't fix roads like I 95 , etc and GM has been bailed out many times, they will continue to TAKE tax payer money and produce nothing

[Lt Keefer]

The US used to have a free market economy where manufacturers sold items people wanted or needed. We are now transitioning to a command economy where the central government authorities tell manufacturers what and when to produce. That economic system is usually found in authoritarian nation/states like the USSR and the PRK.

[The Gritz Carlton]

First, you have to find someone that's willing to take to EV's cross country. Limited miles between long charging windows is scary. The day will come but now the technology just isn't there. When they produce an EV that will go at least 800 miles on other than totally flat terrain between charges and "fully" recharge in 20-30 minutes (normal break stops when traveling), the EV market will boom. There are no major truck stops conveniently located to most major cities that would drive these people to them. But...to your question...I would thing towing an EV would expand your boondocking capabilities if you already had the car. I wouldn't purchase one for that reason.

[The Gritz Carlton]

Originally Posted by Lt Keefer

The US used to have a free market economy where manufacturers sold items people wanted or needed. We are now transitioning to a command economy where the central government authorities tell manufacturers what and when to produce. That economic system is usually found in authoritarian nation/states like the USSR and the PRK.

It's coming this way and people are totally blind to it. Did you read where BMW will start building all cars identical with every available option other than color? If you want to use luxury features like cruise control, heated seats, heated steering wheels, navigation systems....you have to subscribe to them for a monthly fee and they will activate them. Insane, but people will buy them just to see that circle on the hood to impress neighbors and friends.

[Lt Keefer]

Originally Posted by The Gritz Carlton

It's coming this way and people are totally blind to it. Did you read where BMW will start building all cars identical with every available option other than color? If you want to use luxury features like cruise control, heated seats, heated steering wheels, navigation systems....you have to subscribe to them for a monthly fee and they will activate them. Insane, but people will buy them just to see that circle on the hood to impress neighbors and friends.

Kind of like Microsoft and Adobe products. Well, I guess we get what we don't necessarily want when we venture down that slippery slope people have warned us of for the last 50 years.

[Scubawise]

Originally Posted by Lt Keefer

The US used to have a free market economy where manufacturers sold items people wanted or needed. We are now transitioning to a command economy where the central government authorities tell manufacturers what and when to produce. That economic system is usually found in authoritarian nation/states like the USSR and the PRK.

Is that why we keep bailing out car & airline companies and then they fire workers anyway?

[lwmcguir]

Originally Posted by Scubawise

Interesting take. Lora issue is not going far on 1 charge and waiting 20 to 60 minutes for a charge.

I guess if we can't fix roads like I 95 , etc and GM has been bailed out many times, they will continue to TAKE tax payer money and produce nothing

Having had an EV, I agree with Lora. I have family that have high end EV's, and it isn't in my genes to build public charging stations for them.

Grid has issues, conductor prices are high and driving up prices of everything from house wiring to phones. Spending billions on all the charging stations simply compounds problems and solves nothing

Let's build some power plants and then maybe the public will build the charging stations

Or we could pull a Germany and bring back a bunch of power plants that are moth balled

[Scubawise]

Originally Posted by The Gritz Carlton

It's coming this way and people are totally blind to it. Did you read where BMW will start building all cars identical with every available option other than color? If you want to use luxury features like cruise control, heated seats, heated steering wheels, navigation systems....you have to subscribe to them for a monthly fee and they will activate them. Insane, but people will buy them just to see that circle on the hood to impress neighbors and friends.

Fascinating. I will look into this ..rode BMW 1200 Gt Motorcycles for years

[Scubawise]

Originally Posted by lwmcguir

Having had an EV, I agree with Lora. I have family that have high end EV's, and it isn't in my genes to build public charging stations for them.

Grid has issues, conductor prices are high and driving up prices of everything from house wiring to phones. Spending billions on all the charging stations simply compounds problems and solves nothing

Let's build some power plants and then maybe the public will build the charging stations

Or we could pull a Germany and bring back a bunch of power plants that are moth balled

We looked at the cost of EV. We were shocked at how expensive. I guess one needs garage power changes..
The hyundai ion looks good

[Chance]

There are many cars available today that can travel “normal” daily highway distance with one mid-day charge stop. Provided they can charge again (a second time) overnight at destination or at hotel, I wouldn’t hesitate taking a long trip in a BEV if charging on major highways was available every 50 miles. Worst range case for most owners would be two (2) mid-day charge stops which could take +/- 30 minutes each.

What I worry most about is that during holidays or special events when traffic is far greater, that charging stations won’t be available when needed because there will be lines a mile long.



For what it’s worth, the US reportedly just passed the 5% market penetration level, which is suppose to be when new technologies start to take off much faster. Most countries that reached 5% years ago indeed accelerated sales after initial 5%, though many have different driving conditions.

If you go to link below, reading original short Bloomberg article on which this is based is worth the time in my opinion because it provides more data.

I do not have an electric car but could replace my wife’s car with one today if we needed it now and if price wasn’t much higher. For long highway trips, we would continue to use a camper van even when we don’t plan to overnight in van.


https://rvbusiness.com/u-s-crosses-5...electric-cars/

[happy]

I don't mind electric vehicles. They have a place and serve many very well.

Plus electric utilities, petro producers and rare earth mining stocks can pay nice dividends. The electric vehicle industry relies on these industries for their existence.


Yet, a real draw back is that on days such as today our local utility is warning of peak energy use. They ask us to limit use so that there will be less chance of rolling black outs. We recently went through a full 7 day winter blackout due to a region wide ice storm. That would have doomed any electric vehicle.

[Bill Johnson]

Originally Posted by lwmcguir

We're building a few Billion dollars' worth per the money that was computer created along with the other Trillions.

I don't see this being a positive in any way shape or form.

Local charging stations are never busy and they are high priced so locals are sure going to charge at home.

Walmart Super Center has had 8 for the past 5 years or so any you might see one car at a given time and usually none. Right off I70 so the demand isn't there

I don't think our created Tax money should be spent for building something that don't have a proven demand and what should be paid for by the user.

A pad with chargers off an exit will either be in the middle of nowhere or along someone with a business trying to make it work.

Simply 100% against the idea. It is one more step in the Socialism of America

I thought we weren't supposed to talk politics on here?

[Bill Johnson]

Originally Posted by happy

I don't mind electric vehicles. They have a place and serve many very well.

Plus electric utilities, petro producers and rare earth mining stocks can pay nice dividends. The electric vehicle industry relies on these industries for their existence.


Yet, a real draw back is that on days such as today our local utility is warning of peak energy use. They ask us to limit use so that there will be less chance of rolling black outs. We recently went through a full 7 day winter blackout due to a region wide ice storm. That would have doomed any electric vehicle.

We don't have power problems here, most of our power comes from necular power stations, and they are upgrading or power constantly. Last year there were 607,600 light electric vehicle sales so like you say they will use them. It would be like cars and no gas stations, it makes sense to have the charging system ready l like the new Cadillac model as a second car. I can't remember it's later this year or next, they will have solid-state batteries with almost double the range and super fast charging and non flammable.

[EA37TS]

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