How do I attach a tarp to the awning? Or is there a better way?

[LPH]

Hi

The awning on the Four Winds 24F ends halfway over the entrance door. If the awning is out, and it rains, then water drips right in front of the door and makes a big puddle and mud.

In looking at the awning, I was thinking of attaching a tarp to the awning (where the door isn't covered) and seeing if this would help during rain.

I have spring clamps and the tarp. But before getting started, maybe someone has a better idea.

Are there any RV owners with the same issue -- the awning ends halfway over the door? Did you find a good solution?

[16ACE27]

Looks to me that the awning should cover the door.

[LPH]

Originally Posted by 16ACE27

Looks to me that the awning should cover the door.

I'll take a picture of my rig as soon as the sun rises.

You should see in the photo you provided that the bar holding the awning is close to the door and the awning itself doesn't fit snug to that area. There's a gap. This gap is what needs to be covered.

[16ACE27]

Originally Posted by LPH

I'll take a picture of my rig as soon as the sun rises.

You should see in the photo you provided that the bar holding the awning is close to the door and the awning itself doesn't fit snug to that area. There's a gap. This gap is what needs to be covered.

If you're missing more than an inch or so of coverage maybe your awning has slipped rearward in the track? Definitely should NOT be half the door uncovered.

[Chateau_Nomad]

I have a 24F and the awning is over the door... just like the pic. A couple suggestions:

Our awning can be angled down at either end... just grab the bar and pull down. I try to keep ours angled so rain runs off the back end away from the doorway.

Place a doormat just left of your entrance and try to stay to that side when entering/exiting.

If you really want to use a tarp, use spring clamps (like you said) and stuff an edge between the cab-over and roof. Or spring clamps to mirror arm.

[NurseNellie]

I'm glad I read this post since the door on a Chateau 22e is right at the front of the "house", too. I would angle the awning to the rear, for starters; then being basically lazy, I would stick a large golf umbrella between the awning and the bars :-)

[DbleDutch]

Originally Posted by LPH

Hi

The awning on the Four Winds 24F ends halfway over the entrance door.

Our 24F has the same issue. With the front naturally lower, rain water follows the awning rail and drips across the door. A slight rain with any breeze from the front, will soak the door entry. I have looked at the problem many ways. Thought of an awning extension triangle to the front, but know that it would simply rip away at highway speeds. A tarp clipped as you mention may work, just carry a step ladder tall enough to reach that height.
Let us know and give pictures.

[knucklehead]

Originally Posted by 16ACE27

If you're missing more than an inch or so of coverage maybe your awning has slipped rearward in the track? Definitely should NOT be half the door uncovered.

Guess Thor needs to look at what the build before they sell something so poorly designed. I know that doesn't help but reverse engineering is a bitch! I can't think of anything to do to help that my friend. Maybe try flex seal with some plastic diverters????

[The Gritz Carlton]

I'm looking a B+ (baby C) models now and find this door placement issue a deal breaker. I've passed on sever models without looking at them any further. It's a common design in the smaller units that most people don't think about until they are there and own it.

[Jimbo56]

What’s that got to do with the awning? Several Newmar A’s have the awning arms down over the pass window to eliminate this problem. My guess is the short C , with its cab over won’t accommodate this. May just have to wear a raincoat.

[16ACE27]

Originally Posted by LPH

I'll take a picture of my rig as soon as the sun rises.

You should see in the photo you provided that the bar holding the awning is close to the door and the awning itself doesn't fit snug to that area. There's a gap. This gap is what needs to be covered.

Still waiting for the sun to rise.............

[LPH]

Originally Posted by 16ACE27

Still waiting for the sun to rise.............

My apologies. I became extremely distracted. It turns out my idea of adding a tarp was a bad idea during a rainstorm.

My uncle reminded me that wind can catch an awning and rip it off the RV. I immediately pulled in the awning. I walked the RV site the next morning and saw a few unfortunate awnings and gave up on my idea.

I wait out the rain now.

At times I do attach a tarp to block sun. I bought cheap plastic c-clamps and clip the tarp on the metal arms. Works wonders. But roll in the awning if there's wind and rain.

[dkoldman]

From the outside reading in, the thread has never made sense to me to follow. I know it is problem because others have same experience.

With no pictures, I think I get lost when OP says "the awning ends halfway over the door? " ?

Also OP says "If the awning is out, and it rains, then water drips right in front of the door and makes a big puddle and mud."

If awning is not out and it rains, won't there still be a puddle?

If I just ignore trying to follow the above and focus on the apparent mud problem at the steps, we do the following.

1. If it rains our awning will always be in
2. We have very nice $20 weather mat we bought from Wal Mart that we keep in basement if it rains
3. I rarely if ever park where the steps would be in mud, if I thought it may rain, I would move to another site, for many other reasons as well.

[Mark54]

Originally Posted by LPH

My apologies. I became extremely distracted. It turns out my idea of adding a tarp was a bad idea during a rainstorm.

My uncle reminded me that wind can catch an awning and rip it off the RV. I immediately pulled in the awning. I walked the RV site the next morning and saw a few unfortunate awnings and gave up on my idea.

I wait out the rain now.

At times I do attach a tarp to block sun. I bought cheap plastic c-clamps and clip the tarp on the metal arms. Works wonders. But roll in the awning if there's wind and rain.

If you have room over the door- I added this PVC rain gutter material to my Rialta and Tellaro RV's and keeps water that gets past the awning (space between roof and awning box) from coming down.

See black line on side under awning- extended forward to front cab door- keeps water from collecting at doorway when awning is extended. Be sure to clean area with alcohol and then VHB primer before applying.

Can be ordered as black or white.

We usually only have awning out 12-20" at night or if raining w/o high winds.

https://www.amazon.com/RecPro-Plasti...09&sr=8-3&th=1

[Chateau_Nomad]

Alrighty then. Just made the most of our last week in WV getting drenched with constant rain from the hurricane. I can vouch for the poor design. With the door fully open, perpendicular to the camper, it's several inches forward of the awning, completely exposed to rain. Very annoying that the door gets soaked.

The awning cannot be mounted forward on a class C far enough to fix this... and moving the door rearward would definitely compromise the interior design. Now I'm also thinking about a small tarp, spring clamps and possibly a couple tent stakes... mixed with some hillbilly engineering??

And wouldn't you know it? It's dark here now and still raining. Pic coming tomorrow.

Hey Mark... looks like the same sturdy door stool we have! Love the adjustable height!

[dkoldman]

Originally Posted by Chateau_Nomad

With the door fully open, perpendicular to the camper, it's several inches forward of the awning, completely exposed to rain. Very annoying that the door gets soaked.

Thanks, now I get it. Somehow, I had mental block that OP was saying awning was extended halfway over the door meaning awning extended outward.

Now that I follow and I know you reference as a poor design, but even in a Class A, I never thought to extend my awning to keep my door from getting wet if it were raining? In fact, I would do just the opposite meaning if my awning were extended with door covered and rain started, I would bring my awning in.

Another way of looking at it, if I was in my SUV in the rain and had to get in or out, I would expect my door to get wet... but I have never thought that to be an issue? Some will pull out an umbrella but that is to keep them from getting wet not the door. Am I still missing something? For me if it is raining getting wet is tradition

btw, I got to find a wax thread or create a new one as I finished waxing the RV this past weekend. Yesterday I compound polished & wax the sun exposed side for 7 years of my boat. I got some incredible BEFORE and AFTER pictures.

[16ACE27]

Originally Posted by Chateau_Nomad

Alrighty then. Just made the most of our last week in WV getting drenched with constant rain from the hurricane. I can vouch for the poor design. With the door fully open, perpendicular to the camper, it's several inches forward of the awning, completely exposed to rain. Very annoying that the door gets soaked.

The awning cannot be mounted forward on a class C far enough to fix this... and moving the door rearward would definitely compromise the interior design. Now I'm also thinking about a small tarp, spring clamps and possibly a couple tent stakes... mixed with some hillbilly engineering??

And wouldn't you know it? It's dark here now and still raining. Pic coming tomorrow.

Hey Mark... looks like the same sturdy door stool we have! Love the adjustable height!

On my ACE, and the 27K Hurricane/Windsports (no, not Windstars) there is a small, manual door awning that may work or be adapted for this type of case.

I don't know if it was a "standard" Carefree of Colorado offering.




EDIT:

Yep, it is one of 4 COC over the door/over the window awning offerings.



https://carefreeofcolorado.com/rv-pr...rv-motor-home/

[dkoldman]

Originally Posted by 16ACE27

On my ACE, and the 27K Hurricane/Windsports (no, not Windstars) there is a small, manual door awning that may work or be adapted for this type of case.


Yep, it is one of 4 COC over the door/over the window awning offerings.



https://carefreeofcolorado.com/rv-pr...rv-motor-home/

Pictures speak a 1000 words. Until now, I still was not following fully what the OP's issue was. I took the Chateau's words and then applied to picture in post #14 and assumed the door on passenger side was the issue. Keep in mind I had no idea of what a 4Winds 24F was, but assumed it to be akin to the picture in Post 14.

With that said, I googled Four Winds 24F to get my own picture and I got the below.

https://www.popsells.com/rv-for-sale...oaAoCAEALw_wcB

So I still don't know what the issue is

Maybe he has different Model Four Winds 24F?

FWIW, I had to go outside to look to see if my door was fully under the awning as this is something I had never encountered as a question. Looks like my door is in same spot as 24F? Even though my door is under awning, if it is raining; my awning is coming in. Now if I had that door only awning that you show, I may think otherwise, but I would fear damage from water and winds to be of greater concern than the door getting wet?

I will add that my Outdoor Kitchen is not under Awning, but it does have a a large hatch that when open provides some cover, but if it is raining you have to close it so the Outside Kitchen does not get wet.

[Chateau_Nomad]

The actual door OPENING is under the awning... which is fine. The problem is with the DOOR, not the door opening.

With the door closed, the hinge side (right) is about even with the edge of the awning. BUT... when you swing the door fully open, the physical door is outside of the awning exposed to pouring rain.

In cool weather It's nice to be able to leave the door open with the screen door closed during a shower. Nice fresh breeze! The downside is the door gets SOAKED, which is really annoying. Then when you close the door, water drips on the lower step making a mess.

First world problems!

Notice how the awning bracket can't really be moved forward... it's already near the edge of the box. Moving the door to the left would require moving the (already small) kitchen rearward.

A creative solution might be a removable awning extension mounted to the cab-over?? Permanently mounted brackets which allow a removable "mini awning" to snap into place? Then remove for storage. ???

[ghnl]

Would it help if the awning fabric was moved forward a couple of inches? The fabric is typically secured in the top track by one or two screws. Remove the screws, slide the fabric forward a little bit and resecure it in the new position.